Is this the worst song of all time?

[Shamanic Rhythm]

If you thought Friday was bad, and if you thought Blurred Lines was somewhat disturbing, then I don't recommend listening to this song, because you will very likely want to fill your own ears with concrete.


I don't even know how this qualifies as music, to be honest. I'm starting to believe all those people who wrote about degeneration might have been right.

 

[Queen Michael]

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I can't for the life of me understand what kind of satanic witchcraft gave rise to that abomination.

 

[BathorysGraveland2]

Eh, doesn't sound particularly offensive to my ears. Far from the worst tripe. On the contrary, I could imagine a crowd of drunken people having a good time to it, so that alone raises its quality above genuinely bad music.

This thread seems like yet another case of "I don't like it, therefore it must be terrible".

 

[1Life0Continues]

This thread seems like yet another case of "I don't like it, therefore it must be terrible".

This.

Besides, clearly the worst song of all time is this one


It even says so. And as we all know, everything on the internet is true.

 

[sextus the crazy]

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I can't for the life of me understand what kind of satanic witchcraft gave rise to that abomination.

I was expecting bad, but I wasn't expecting this. I still not sure what I was listening to. That beat was pretty bad though.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Eh, doesn't sound particularly offensive to my ears. Far from the worst tripe. On the contrary, I could imagine a crowd of drunken people having a good time to it, so that alone raises its quality above genuinely bad music.

This thread seems like yet another case of "I don't like it, therefore it must be terrible".

No, funnily enough it's more of a case of "Here's my opinion, I'd be interested to know if you agree with it."

 

[BathorysGraveland2]

No, funnily enough it's more of a case of "Here's my opinion, I'd be interested to know if you agree with it."

Then what's with that whole disingenuous "not sure if this is even music" bullshit? Asking for an opinion is one thing, but being condescending like that toward music you don't like is quite different.

 

[Vault101]

[I/]oh no....I shouldn't be driving this car?..[/I]

This thread seems like yet another case of "I don't like it, therefore it must be terrible".

its one thing to have bad songs but the problem with music is there is a lot of unwarranted disdain for certain genres

I'm just waiting for someone to post Nicki Minage's "stupid hoe"

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

No, funnily enough it's more of a case of "Here's my opinion, I'd be interested to know if you agree with it."

Then what's with that whole disingenuous "not sure if this is even music" bullshit? Asking for an opinion is one thing, but being condescending like that toward music you don't like is quite different.

Because listening to this song genuinely got me wondering what the definition of music is and whether or not there's some kind of baseline of rhythmic, melodic or harmonic structure a piece has to attain to be considered music as opposed to just noise. Is there some kind of law against airing these thoughts?

 

[BathorysGraveland2]

Because listening to this song genuinely got me wondering what the definition of music is and whether or not there's some kind of baseline of rhythmic, melodic or harmonic structure a piece has to attain to be considered music as opposed to just noise. Is there some kind of law against airing these thoughts?

Law? No, but there is however common sense. This is clearly music. It should be as clear as night and day to anyone who has any serious interest in music. Now if you wanted to open a discussion on whether the noise or drone genres are music, perhaps there would be a more justified argument to have. But for what was linked in the OP, it's pretty clear that it is most assuredly music. Whether it's good or bad is up to ones own personal analysis, but it's music. Of that you can be sure.

Shall we instead debate the musical authenticity of the noise genre?

 

[ron1n]

Ok I see your terrible song and raise you the actual worst song ever:


And yeah, music is subjective blah blah blah, but if you actually think ^ that isn't terrible....

I...don't even.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Shall we instead debate the musical authenticity of the noise genre?

I'd make a joke about how I literally can't, but that would be giving this... song... more respect than it deserves Off to google noise genre now.

 

[zen5887]

No, funnily enough it's more of a case of "Here's my opinion, I'd be interested to know if you agree with it."

Then what's with that whole disingenuous "not sure if this is even music" bullshit? Asking for an opinion is one thing, but being condescending like that toward music you don't like is quite different.

Because listening to this song genuinely got me wondering what the definition of music is and whether or not there's some kind of baseline of rhythmic, melodic or harmonic structure a piece has to attain to be considered music as opposed to just noise. Is there some kind of law against airing these thoughts?

Shit man it's a (purposely) trashy dance song, not a symphony, right?. It's does all the things music like this is supposed to do, it's loud and aggressive, the beat is consistent, it's got the builds and drop, and the all those hooks. It might not be a very good dance song, and might not like it which is fine, but to go all "is this really music though?" is ignorant and kinda arrogant. It's totally a case of "I don't like it therefore it sucks". Like, how much do you know about this type of music? How much do you know about the conventions and the themes and the production techniques (of which there are many, and they are really, really good). I feel like this whole thing is you not understanding how something works and assuming the worst about it.

But if you're really interested there is a "traditional" definition of music that we can use to look at this piece to figure out if it actually is music (spoiler: it is).

Western music usually (leaving out all the weird 20th century classical stuff) has about 7 elements: melody, harmony, rhythm, tone, form, tempo and dynamics. Some people say more or less, but I was taught 7.

Does this piece have these elements (yes).

Melody: The bassline, the vocals
Harmony: There are a handful of vocal harmonies and a quiet little pad and wowie there is more than one note being played at the same time. Harmony!
Rhythm: Yes
Tone (or timbre): The bassline, lil jon, the more spacy pads. Loads of tibre
Form: There is a verse, chorus, intro and outro.
Tempo: Upbeat tempo somewhere around 130bpm I think
Dynamics: Lots. Loud bits, quiet bits, crescendos and decrescendos.

This song might not have the best examples of these elements, and some are going to be more emphasized than others (it's a genre thing), but they are definitely there.

So yes, this song is music.

(sorry for the pretentiousness.. I haven't got to wave my expensive degree around for awhile)

 

[Fox12]

Eh, doesn't sound particularly offensive to my ears. Far from the worst tripe. On the contrary, I could imagine a crowd of drunken people having a good time to it, so that alone raises its quality above genuinely bad music.

This thread seems like yet another case of "I don't like it, therefore it must be terrible".

No, funnily enough it's more of a case of "Here's my opinion, I'd be interested to know if you agree with it."

Well, I'm glad to see that Lil' Jon has embraced his place in the circle of life.

Is it bad if it's so bad it's funny? The shaggs probably take the crown for that. But this? It's mildly offensive, but it's meant to be listened to while heavily inebriated, allowing for easy consumption by drunken idiots. Hence why Lil' Jon has three words in his whole vocabulary. I'm not sure if it's the worst song of all time, but it's really good at capturing everything wrong with the music industry at the moment.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

It might not be a very good dance song, and might not like it which is fine, but to go all "is this really music though?" is ignorant and kinda arrogant.

Ignorant maybe. Arrogant? It was an honest question.

It's totally a case of "I don't like it therefore it sucks".

Isn't that how most opinions work?

Like, how much do you know about this type of music? How much do you know about the conventions and the themes and the production techniques (of which there are many, and they are really, really good). I feel like this whole thing is you not understanding how something works and assuming the worst about it.

So explain it to me?

But if you're really interested there is a "traditional" definition of music that we can use to look at this piece to figure out if it actually is music (spoiler: it is).

Western music usually (leaving out all the weird 20th century classical stuff) has about 7 elements: melody, harmony, rhythm, tone, form, tempo and dynamics. Some people say more or less, but I was taught 7.

Does this piece have these elements (yes).

Melody: The bassline, the vocals
Harmony: There are a handful of vocal harmonies and a quiet little pad and wowie there is more than one note being played at the same time. Harmony!
Rhythm: Yes
Tone (or timbre): The bassline, lil jon, the more spacy pads. Loads of tibre
Form: There is a verse, chorus, intro and outro.
Tempo: Upbeat tempo somewhere around 130bpm I think
Dynamics: Lots. Loud bits, quiet bits, crescendos and decrescendos.

This song might not have the best examples of these elements, and some are going to be more emphasized than others (it's a genre thing), but they are definitely there.

So yes, this song is music.

(sorry for the pretentiousness.. I haven't got to wave my expensive degree around for awhile)

Yes, we've established it is music. Thank you. Was it really necessary to get so uppity and accuse me of being arrogant because I aired what was my actual first impression on these forums?

 

[zen5887]

Spoiler

It might not be a very good dance song, and might not like it which is fine, but to go all "is this really music though?" is ignorant and kinda arrogant.

Ignorant maybe. Arrogant? It was an honest question.

It's totally a case of "I don't like it therefore it sucks".

Isn't that how most opinions work?

Like, how much do you know about this type of music? How much do you know about the conventions and the themes and the production techniques (of which there are many, and they are really, really good). I feel like this whole thing is you not understanding how something works and assuming the worst about it.

So explain it to me?

But if you're really interested there is a "traditional" definition of music that we can use to look at this piece to figure out if it actually is music (spoiler: it is).

Western music usually (leaving out all the weird 20th century classical stuff) has about 7 elements: melody, harmony, rhythm, tone, form, tempo and dynamics. Some people say more or less, but I was taught 7.

Does this piece have these elements (yes).

Melody: The bassline, the vocals
Harmony: There are a handful of vocal harmonies and a quiet little pad and wowie there is more than one note being played at the same time. Harmony!
Rhythm: Yes
Tone (or timbre): The bassline, lil jon, the more spacy pads. Loads of tibre
Form: There is a verse, chorus, intro and outro.
Tempo: Upbeat tempo somewhere around 130bpm I think
Dynamics: Lots. Loud bits, quiet bits, crescendos and decrescendos.

This song might not have the best examples of these elements, and some are going to be more emphasized than others (it's a genre thing), but they are definitely there.

So yes, this song is music.

(sorry for the pretentiousness.. I haven't got to wave my expensive degree around for awhile)

Yes, we've established it is music. Thank you. Was it really necessary to get so uppity and accuse me of being arrogant because I aired what was my actual first impression on these forums?

Arrogant because you felt like your opinion was worth enough to declare it "not music" and the "degeneration" that people are talking about. And you're free to have an opinion on how bad the song is, that's not what I take issue with.

Dance music isn't as easy as a lot of people think. The "music" part of it, the notes and the chords and all that, might (sometimes) be simpler than other popular genres (and this is the part that people hear, which gives it the impression that is 'easy'), but the real meat of the genre is in the engineering side. Getting all of those parts to work well together without sounding muddy is really hard to do.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Arrogant because you felt like your opinion was worth enough to declare it "not music"

I didn't. I said "I'm not sure how this qualifies as music." That's a technical query. If you can't see the subtle difference between that and what you're implying I said, this is going to go around in circles forever.

and the "degeneration" that people are talking about.

To be clear, that part was in regards to the way they scream "Shut the f*ck up!" in the chorus.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Im a pretty big doof doof fan.... eh, its not the worst ive heard. That bit around the minute mark is a decent sounding bit of bass I could enjoy in a club, especially if you chopped away most of the rest of the song. Though I have to say its pretty bad Ive heard worse.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

Don't be silly. This is by far the worst song in existence.