Is your Mac at risk.

[iamthehorde]

So one of the main things people use to say that Mac's are better than PC's (I don't want to start a flame war here) is now vulnerable, and they're publicising it.
Clever?

they are not better. it´s what you like better. if you want to do something with music, film or graphic-programs and a user-friendly interface, go for mac, especially since there are lots of programs and apps you can get for free for a mac where the equivalent for windows costs serious money. on the other hand, that i am not able to play many games on my mac is a major bummer for me. but as i´m more of a consolero and playing videogames for me is equal to hanging at the couch with controller in hand staring at the tv and i can´t stand windows anymore, i´m fine with mac.

 

[grimsprice]

Way to tell everyone where the flaw is located so people will take advantage of it now. I swear the media is retarded.....

or the media are all PC users and they're sick to the teeth of those mac commercials... hmmmm i smell a conspiracy theory in the works..

 

[DeadlyYellow]

I offensively and aggressively push an unfounded hatred of Apple Computers.

There, I changed it to be a bit more forum friendly. Always love seeing new questionable people emerge into the forums. Really puts my faith in the belief we are not a bunch of degenerate apes.

On topic, it does seem like a pretty hefty flaw. However, I can't really see a difference between a Mac running Windows software and a normal PC as far as use is considered. Must be the way it handles data. Doesn't seem like much will be done unless they get a stronger foothold in the market.

Why do Mac haters always jump at the opportunity to point out that Mac's aren't invincible?

It's really no different than the trolls promoting the console wars. Just more examples of people wallowing in their own insecure and imbecilic nature.

 

[AppleaDay]

Apple fanboy, right here. That being said of course the computers aren't flawless. The last I checked nothing is. Why Apple is constantly having to prove itself to the rest of the world is beyond me ridiculous. If you PC nerds were comfortable enough with your own OS to not bash OS X every chance you got I might be more sympathetic. I don't hate Windows I just prefer Mac and there are a lot of people who feel the same way, yet you don't see us going into every PC forum we can find pointing out the countless problems Windows machines have.

 

[Gaderael]

Do you see the irony in that your news source for Mac issues is Microsoft's MSNBC?

However it be, this only works if the user installed a malicious program like pirated software, and it only targets the Safari browser. It's not so much an innate Mac vulnerability as it is pebkac [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEBKAC].

I have to agree with your statement. Also, that makes what 2 issues to Mac products vs the what 500k + out there for PC? I'm not seeing this as a worry to most Mac users.

Edit: I love how they say that Mac's are not advancing rapidly enough to keep up to date. How many years was it between XP before Vista came out? What about that fact that Vista was a lame attempt to copy the looks of Macs OS? Oh, and what about the fact that Mac's update almost every week not every 9 months. The Leopard OS hasn't been out long at all and there's another coming out this September. It'll be at least another 3 years plus before PC has one out. Not trying to start an argument or sound biased but just merely pointing out those facts.

Okay, first off, way to fall into the marketing ploy of PC vs Mac. They're all Personal Computers. Plus, new Macs are Intel based. You can run OSX, Windows, or Gnu Linux/Unix, whatever.

Secondly, Three years? Windows 7 is coming out October 22nd of this year. Hell, I'm using the 7100 Evaluation build as I type. Got rid of XP and everything. Works great, no issues. Then you have different flavours of Open Source OSs coming out all the time. In the last couple of years, Ubuntu, the one most say is like Windows or OSX, has two releases a year. Windows may not make releases just as quickly, but at least they release Service Packs for no charge, and please, don't go on about how Win7 is just Vista with a service pack. They've changed a fair bit under the hood.

If you think I'm ragging on Apple, I'm not. They're not my cup of tea, but I don't hate it. I just felt I had to offer a counter point to your statements. I cannot completely hate an OS that one of my favorite musicians does all his demos and some finished work on.

EDIT: Just to prove my last paragraph, I even Reported windwalker94, as that was just pure flamebait/trolling, and does not belong in this discussion.

 

[mikecoulter]

clever people, no-matter their system, don't get viruses (or, not as many)

retards DO get viruses.

It's quite simple really, No system is safe. so don't download any old shit, click links blindly, and use a little common sense. and even on Windows 98, you'll have a virus free time.

You sir, should be awarded something.

Don't people understand that by not being idiotic forms of life they can save people in the know a lot of trouble having to fix their computers by not being absolute retards?

I run a virus scanner on my Mac every week. It's not that they can't get infected, its just no body's bothered until now.

 

[mikecoulter]

But macs are the most secure computers in the world and they can't get viruses or be hacked at all ever!

Yes they can... Are you being sarcastic?

 

[UnkeptBiscuit]

im GLaD to see other mac haters in here

I prefer PCs myself but I am just curious. Why do you hate Macs so passionately?

because he's a troll, report and move on, people...

 

[Zildjin81]

im GLaD to see other mac haters in here

I prefer PCs myself but I am just curious. Why do you hate Macs so passionately?

He was picked on by a gang of Macs in high school.

That was a joke, right? If it was +10 comedy points for you.

 

[superbleeder12]

Way to tell everyone where the flaw is located so people will take advantage of it now. I swear the media is retarded.....

Public dissemination of information about flaws in operating systems and software is our best defense against being hacked.

Especially for companies like microsoft and apple. These companies do not have a large patching/fix department compared to open source operating systems. In order for them to fix exploits, they must be public knowledge, and users of the operating system have to either complain about the exploit, or disable the component that is found to be flawed until it is fixed.

The most dangerous exploit is one that only a few know about.

Defcon and blackhat are hacker conferences in which information about vulnerabilities are openly talked about and proof of concept is demoed. These conferences aren't inherently bad, they are very good in fact. Most of conference attendees are security professionals who are there to learn about new vulnerabilities and how to fix or circumvent them from a purely professional standpoint.

 

[Riding on Thermals]

I have to agree with your statement. Also, that makes what 2 issues to Mac products vs the what 500k + out there for PC? I'm not seeing this as a worry to most Mac users.

Edit: I love how they say that Mac's are not advancing rapidly enough to keep up to date. How many years was it between XP before Vista came out? What about that fact that Vista was a lame attempt to copy the looks of Macs OS? Oh, and what about the fact that Mac's update almost every week not every 9 months. The Leopard OS hasn't been out long at all and there's another coming out this September. It'll be at least another 3 years plus before PC has one out. Not trying to start an argument or sound biased but just merely pointing out those facts.

I assume you're not counting Windows 7. I don't know exactly why of course, but you clearly aren't. It's true that Windows updates less frequently Apple does, but what's the benefit of getting those weekly updates? Has anything been radically redesigned since the original release of the OS that was patched? I personally don't use Vista (until my new home computer arrives and only until October) but at this point I understand that it's been pretty much "fixed"

Apple fanboy, right here. That being said of course the computers aren't flawless. The last I checked nothing is. Why Apple is constantly having to prove itself to the rest of the world is beyond me ridiculous. If you PC nerds were comfortable enough with your own OS to not bash OS X every chance you got I might be more sympathetic. I don't hate Windows I just prefer Mac and there are a lot of people who feel the same way, yet you don't see us going into every PC forum we can find pointing out the countless problems Windows machines have.

Thanks for starting off by telling us why we don't need to respect your opinion: calling yourself a fanboy is about as good an idea as invoking Godwin's Law. But I'm willing to jump on this troll-grenade. Apple needs to prove itself because it markets an overpriced product with underpowered hardware and glazes over that little issue by selling it's product to people who are more willing to purchase a brand than a computer with any type of power. I could build a PC with the same specs as your Mac for considerably less money, it would be compatible with far more software and peripheral devices and unless you're a professional video-editor, it will probably perform better for the basic functions I assume you use (word processing and internet). Send me the specs on your mac and I'll make it more specific. Secondly, you've done nothing but find a forum and call PC users nerds. Cool story, bro. So what you're telling me is, you're the kind of Apple user that is happy not to be bogged down by the requirements of computer literacy but is willing to pay more for it and then tells other people that Macs are better. You are the kind of Apple user that's going to get rocked by a virus. Good luck.

 

[Zildjin81]

Thanks for starting off by telling us why we don't need to respect your opinion: calling yourself a fanboy is about as good an idea as invoking Godwin's Law. But I'm willing to jump on this troll-grenade. Apple needs to prove itself because it markets an overpriced product with underpowered hardware and glazes over that little issue by selling it's product to people who are more willing to purchase a brand than a computer with any type of power. I could build a PC with the same specs as your Mac for considerably less money, it would be compatible with far more software and peripheral devices and unless you're a professional video-editor, it will probably perform better for the basic functions I assume you use (word processing and internet). Send me the specs on your mac and I'll make it more specific. Secondly, you've done nothing but find a forum and call PC users nerds. Cool story, bro. So what you're telling me is, you're the kind of Apple user that is happy not to be bogged down by the requirements of computer literacy but is willing to pay more for it and then tells other people that Macs are better. You are the kind of Apple user that's going to get rocked by a virus. Good luck.

Whoa! I've never seen anyone get a foot stuck that far up their ass!

Damn man! You thrashed that guy!

On topic: Can't we all just get along?

 

[leviathanmisha]

Hey, I use Mac's in my Art 3 class for our graphic design projects...even though I prefer PC's, I have nothing against Mac's.

 

[USSR]

To add to my other post, the Mac is not at risk. Yet.

But as much as I hate the Mac, this doesn't really affect them at all. =p

 

[flare09]

Just another reason to get a different computer that's not a Mac.

 

[Dys]

Who cares? Why would anybody bother hacking a mac...

There are two kinds of mac users, there are computer literate users who use it because they want support from native mac OS software and who would most likely have the sense to protect themselves from any obvious flaw in the system security. And there are the illiterate users who use macs because they think they are cool. The second type probably wouldn't notice, much less care if they were hacked, and the first group would be able to undo any damage in hours (if not minutes). So, I ask, who cares?

 

[superbleeder12]

and linux users silently wait in the background chuckling at this... and configuring things.

 

[bob-2000]

im GLaD to see other mac haters in here

I prefer PCs myself but I am just curious. Why do you hate Macs so passionately?

yea, i mean the systems are really the same. I'm pretty even on the debate, i use macs for writing papers and stuff, and pcs for gaming.

I'm really GLaD that i don't have anything important on my mac.