Is Zelda:OoT overrated?

[ReverendJ]

So the question is, should Zelda really be the "best game ever"?
For me no game has yet reached this, because the best Game would lead us to never want to play another game ever again, just like the best book or movie, would any media reach this goal, than we would just need to read/view/play this one thing and never something else and thats, luckily, never going to happen.

Dude... when has the "Best ever" anything ever wiped out all competition in its category? Think of that title as being "Best Game Ever... Yet."

As far as the quality of the game goes, well, it's a mentality like yours that keeps George Lucas "updating" the original Star Wars because the special effects don't hold up. Anybody with anything resembling taste will put the film in it's proper context, and say, "HOLY SHIT! They made this in NINETEEN FREAKING SEVENTY SEVEN? AMAZING!" Same thing with OoT: For it's time and place it was g.d. incredible, and needs credit for how it helped to push the industry forward.

 

[Phlakes]

...So, you have a different opinion than other people about a game. I think you see what the issue is here.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

OT: It was, at the time, unprecedented in it's scope, story, world and interactions with that world. Does it hold up still? Of course. That's why it's been re-released several times.

Just saying "its good thus its re released" doesn't quite cut it, we are talking about Nintendo here, they re release every game/franchise they have, if they can make money of it.

I mean, credit where credit's due, military shooter #430 may be fun, but it's not an ADVENTURE. There's no investment, emotionally, and that's what set OoT apart. We fell into the world of Hyrule, and loved every minute of it's epic and weird and fantasy wondrous-ness. It was my first video game EXPERIENCE, where I felt that the game had it's own real, touchable and interact-able world, complete with it's own interesting people. That is why it's often rightfully voted as the best video game of all time.

I felt much more invested in the recent CoD:MW2 than I was ever in OoT, heck I couldn't look at the screen as I was pulling the knife out in the end sequence, I was angry as the story and people turned against me..in Zelda OoT I could not give a damn and for me the story in "A Link to the Past" was much better anyway, you were the one they framed for their crimes, there is much more on stake there in my mind, than in Zelda: OoT, its basically just a rehash even the dark world is just the "future" of OoT. But without the fun "you are transformed into what you think you are", that was something brilliant.

1. I'm well aware of the Big N's penchant for recycling their IP's, but that's not what I was talking about. I was talking about re-releases. Like for Gamecube and 3DS. Those are straight up the same game with a few tweaks. And as much as I'd like it, the same can't be said for other Nintendo originals like Star Fox and Metroid, who usually went for new installments instead of updated re-releases.

2. That way you felt about CoD? Yeah, some of us get that from OoT. And, if I'm completely honest, I too enjoyed LttP immensely, but nothing could top walking out onto Hyrule feild that first time. It was like, "HOMAGAWD, I'M IN HYRULE!"

It all comes down to opinion, and none are wrong. Mine just happens to be that OoT is one of, if not, the best games ever. Though, if pressed, I'd put it at number 3, behind Red Dead Redemption and Mega Man 2.

 

[hazabaza1]

Yes, very.
It's a good game, but it's been outdone by many others.

 

[PureChaos]

the game is amazing, it's probably because you were playing on an emulator, no game is as good as its original console version if it's played on an emulator

 

[SoulSalmon]

Is OoT one of the best LoZ games? Yes.
Is it heavily overrated? Also yes.

 

[ReverendJ]

Hrm.... gonna have to be a bit more extensive...

We are not at a state that someone says "I like CoD better than Battlefield", its about Zelda getting unreal praise for something, that I think, is decent at best, I mean an adventure game that bores me so much that I shut it off must do something wrong.

You missed the point. He's saying that other people have different tastes, and that's why you're bewildered by this "best game ever" stuff. You don't like what they do.

Worldrecordholder are the "best" there was no one before them and after them that were "the best" so why wouldn't it apply to games aswell?

This sort of thinking doesn't apply to art forms. To do so relegates the past to the dustbin as technical prowess overcomes previous limitations. One must look at works in the context of their era, especially when it comes to games, as the technology used to create said games is ever improving. Or are we going to toss out all the old FF games because they were 2D...?

As I mentioned that would be a good definition, but what I said, even today people claim it would be the best game ever, which in itself is silly for me, because there are far more advanced games than that and claiming it would be the best game ever is simply well..wrong.

See, there's that modern conceit again. What makes these other games so "advanced," and how does that affect the quality of the product? Do other games released at the same time share these "advancements"? What do they bring to the table that others don't?

Yes they might have had innovations, as innovative as "get boomerang, get bow, get grapplink hook" Zelda games can get, most of the time when I hear people defend Zelda its always the same" ohh big impact so much innovation and yadda yadda" as soon as you ask them what innovation or impressive impact it made they never can name anything...at all.

Spoken like somebody who doesn't properly remember 3D games BEFORE OoT. Trust me, kid, it innovated. Simply getting around was a ***** before, and while not technically a "fast travel" system, the horse solved one of the big pain in the asses of navigating large 3D worlds. Again, not something you'd really respect unless you'd suffered through the time before.

Just saying "its good thus its re released" doesn't quite cut it, we are talking about Nintendo here, they re release every game/franchise they have, if they can make money of it.

Ok, that one's legit, but technically that argument should nullify everything you've said about the plot and repetitious aspects. Yes, it's a Zelda game. We all expect it to be a variant on "Link saves princess, possibly with boomerang." And the hell with Nintendo for conditioning us to accept that. You're right on as far as the stagnation there, but you have to remember that, at the time, a) we hadn't purchased that plot quite so many times yet, although we had a couple and thus were open to the idea, and b) it was a big deal at the time. Imagine, Link in 3D! Kinda like how Serentiy was big for Firefly fans: OMG, big budget coming our way, YAAAAAY!

I don't know, CoD 4 and 6 might be the best from the series (not having played Black ops and MW3). Strangly enough noone who would have played both games would or could claim that they have bad storys, funny enough some claiming that MW2 made no sense might be the ones with the tiny brains, as I never had any problems understanding it..of course in the end it made sense.CoD are actually pretty nice and immersive shooters, no matter if you take the first two or the MW ones.

And there you go expecting the rest of us to assume your OPINION is FACT. Guess what? I didn't like the CoD 4 plot. I UNDERSTOOD IT, but I thought it was STUPID.

So... yeah. Lots of us like it, and as it's majority opinion that determines things like this, I'm sorry, but you're going to have to deal with OoT having this title. Works of art aren't like sporting events, another game can't just come along and jump farther or run faster and thus take the title. Any contender needs to recapture that magic, and let me tell you, it's going to be pretty damn hard. This isn't nostalgia talking; it's memory. There was a lot of hype for that game, and it goddamn DELIVERED.

Last bit of advice, though... You might want to avoid Citizen Kane. Totally overrated and boring, and the color SUCKS.

 

[Bad Jim]

Spoken like somebody who doesn't properly remember 3D games BEFORE OoT. Trust me, kid, it innovated. Simply getting around was a ***** before, and while not technically a "fast travel" system, the horse solved one of the big pain in the asses of navigating large 3D worlds. Again, not something you'd really respect unless you'd suffered through the time before.

Bethesda had put out the first two games in the Elder Scrolls series by then. Both these games had maps the size of real countries and fast travel. In Daggerfall, you could also ride horses.

I played OOT on the 3DS and I did enjoy it, but I don't see why it should repeatedly top "best games ever" lists. There are plenty of other games that were really good as well as innovative. Doom, Half Life, Shogun Total War, Super Mario Bros, Diablo, GTA 3, Street Fighter 2, etc.

 

[Darkong]

Ocarina of Time was a fantastic game at its time and was pretty influencial for adventure games of this type. It did a lot of things that hadn't been done before or massively improved on others, the fighting using sword and shield was incredible, helped by the tight controls and abilty to join flud movements together.

But it suffers two problems. One is that its a game from the N64-PSOne era where the technology for full 3Dimensional games was new and just getting started. As such the graphics and physics are really antiquated and can spoil the experience. The other problem is that it has been built upon by other games, notably the newer Zelda games, as technology has improved so much since 1998 games with 3D worlds have come a long way.

Like many games from that era, OoTs influence has been great and it stands as a classic thanks to that influence, but like many games from that era it just has not aged well enough to stand up anymore. Goldeneye is another great example of this, one of the all time greats thanks to how good it was at the time and its influence on other games, but has not weathered the passage of time very well.

 

[b3nn3tt]

I don't really like the terms over- and under-rated. Enjoyment and fun are completely subjective measures, so if someone dislikes something popular, or likes something unpopular, the opinions of others are not rendered wrong.

So no, I wouldn't say it is over-rated, because anyone who likes it enough to rate it highly obviously likes it that much. Anyone who doesn't think it's very good is also right.

To each their own.

 

[Casual Shinji]

This is the internet: Everything deemed good by the majority is overrated.

Just as everything deemed bad by the majority is underrated.

 

[Lim3]

Its one of the best games ever.

 

[ikyda1]

its the best game ever but is it overrated? sometimes i preferred majora's mask! In my personally opinion FF7 gets too much praise and way overrated! the story was great and so were the characters but it gets put on a really high pedestal for no reason and doesnt deserve half the praise it normally gets then again it was probably quite a few people's first JRPG so it gets the whole first true love treatment!

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

I would say anything nostalgic is always a little bit "overrated" because tech updates will always make better gameplay and presentation achievable.
I definitely think there are better games that have been made, I just won't remember them years from now because at the time they were nothing exceptional. OoT is not my favorite game, but it WAS my favorite game for almost 10 years. I definitely have a decent number of games I like more, but now they're being compared to experiences that Ive gotten from games like Oblivion, so even if they are better than OoT, they're not going to be able to compete with those 10 years of having it in my mind as the best game ever.
Also everything about OoT's story is epic (in the literal sense not the "I'm a 14 year old on the internet roflamao :3 trollface and this game is epic winxor" sort of way.) Everything. Link shooting an arrow to the fucking sun as it rises over lake hylia to harvest the power of its fire is like something out of greek mythology and that's not even a major plot point. Any time anything is a hero's quest or something like that OoT is the gut reaction story that I compare it to. I assume its the same thing star wars nerds do whenever a new sci fi movie or something comes out.

 

[RagnarokHybrid]

I like Majora's Mask a lot more than I ever liked OoT. Granted, I played MM before I played OoT but the order shouldn't matter. Majora's Mask had the threat of doomsday from day one--literally--and what was so great about it was the fact that there was no princess. And Link was only himself about half the time.

It shouldn't have been a Zelda game without Zelda but, as a Zelda game, MM set my standards really high. I'm hoping they bring back some more of those transformations in future titles.

In short, I just wasn't as impressed with OoT as I, perhaps, should have been. But I think Majora's Mask has been in OoT's shadow for too long.

 

[MrGseff]

Well I have always been a big Zelda fan, I think that lately OOT is a bit overrated as it was a good game when it came out but with the new Zelda titles it doesnt stand out anymore. My personal fave is The Wind Waker as it felt different to other Zelda titles

 

[ShaqLevick]

You really just had to play it when it was new... It's just hard to capture a moment like that. Nothing stands the test of time, but nostalgia is something difficult to escape.

 

[Hipsy_Gypsy]

I find that LOZ in general is overrated. The only one I had any fun with was LTTP.

My thoughts exactly. Am I the only one who found it weird to play "Twilight Princess" because it was all 3D and not in a bird's eye view? It's actually kind of funny too because most of the people I know in real life who are big Zelda fans have never played Link to the Past which I think is the best game. Then again, I haven't exactly played all of them so I can't really say for certain, lol.


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[Vault101]

not a Zelda fan..Im sure its good or whatever but I dont think thats an excuse to spruce it up now and again and sell it...again..NINTENDO I'm looking at you