It has been answered: The chicken came first!
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Dinosaur fossils. Go pick up an actual book from your local school and learn something.Optix334 said:
And don't misquote Charles Darwin either. Anyone with 1/2 a high school education knows you've taken what Darwin said out of context.
Well, first of all, find me the quote of Charles Darwin saying evolution is wrong.Optix334 said:
Second of all, the last thing a creationist should want is for this whole debate to be judged on evidence; even IF we decided to ignore EVERY SINGLE FOSSIL we have ever found, then there will still be more evidence supporting evolution than creationism.
Also, this one is much more personal, but you don't really think your arguments through, do you? "You evolutionists arent big of proof are you?" If you can provide me a single shred of evidence supporting creationism, or discounting evolution, I swear I will forever shut my mouth about this whole 'debate'.
Edit: Also, now I'm very curious about something; I looked at a few of your previous posts because I wanted to see if you were just trolling through the forums until you got banned or not, and on your other posts you actually seemed to base your opinions on logical thought, not just bashing the scientific process and closing your mind to rational debate.
Haha, I actually live in Sheffield. Now I'm ashamed to live in the same city as people that are so dumb that they actually consider THAT proof.
"That protein is only found, wait for it... inside a chicken"
All that means is that the spieces that chickens evolved from contained that same protein and passed it down to the chickens through evolution. You cant find the protein in anywhere but chickens because the ancestor that chickens evolved from have died out
EDIT: There is some very poor grammar in that paragraph...but I cant be arsed to edit it properly
"That protein is only found, wait for it... inside a chicken"
All that means is that the spieces that chickens evolved from contained that same protein and passed it down to the chickens through evolution. You cant find the protein in anywhere but chickens because the ancestor that chickens evolved from have died out
EDIT: There is some very poor grammar in that paragraph...but I cant be arsed to edit it properly
Of course the chicken came first because chickens were and always will be. The sooner the world realizes that chickens are the true gods of the universe the better. The next step will be putting this fact into textbooks to educate the youngsters about our soon to be overlords and what we can do to appease them.
This isn't conclusive, dude. All it says is that the egg is made in a chicken. That's all that money wasted on something they teach you in first school when you're still playing house and worrying about being kissed by a girl.
Has evolution not taught you squat? There is the possibility that the egg hatched from an extinct species of bird that was similar to the chicken but not that great (which prompts the question, how retarded can animals really get?). This is what I reckon happened anyway. Until I am given some more likely theory that has some evidence to back it up that is.
Interesting side note: I didn't read anything other than the original post, so sorry for repeating what may or may not have been already said.
Has evolution not taught you squat? There is the possibility that the egg hatched from an extinct species of bird that was similar to the chicken but not that great (which prompts the question, how retarded can animals really get?). This is what I reckon happened anyway. Until I am given some more likely theory that has some evidence to back it up that is.
Interesting side note: I didn't read anything other than the original post, so sorry for repeating what may or may not have been already said.
The question itself is scientifically moot. It's not a question that can be answered. First off, what defines a chicken? What defines an egg? Is the ancestor of a chicken still considered a chicken? Is an egg that's not a chicken egg still an egg? An egg itself is the product of cell reproduction - is the cell then considered part of the egg? Where's the cutoff point? At one point can you say that a creature has fully evolved into a chicken? Sure, a chicken a million years ago won't be able to mate with a chicken today, but on the other hand, a chicken two hundred years ago probably would have the same problem.
And of course, the necessary set of genetic changes, if you could identify them, obviously didn't happen all at once. They occurred over a long period of time, probably in both egg and chicken stages. And to be honest, scientists are not entirely sure how genetic changes occur and prove beneficial. There are some sound theories, but we've hardly been aware of DNA long enough to observe the evolutionary process in a way that can provide substantiation. So perhaps genes are randomly mutated in the fertilization process or perhaps other causes turn on and off genetic switches. Perhaps all that area we've been referring to as "junk DNA" is significant. Perhaps there's a reason why a twin has a genetic disorder and another is healthy.
Point being, we know so little about DNA. What we do know is that it's not quite so simple as "chicken" and "not chicken."
In other words, a chicken does not get bit by a radioactive spider and the next generation is Spiderman.
And of course, the necessary set of genetic changes, if you could identify them, obviously didn't happen all at once. They occurred over a long period of time, probably in both egg and chicken stages. And to be honest, scientists are not entirely sure how genetic changes occur and prove beneficial. There are some sound theories, but we've hardly been aware of DNA long enough to observe the evolutionary process in a way that can provide substantiation. So perhaps genes are randomly mutated in the fertilization process or perhaps other causes turn on and off genetic switches. Perhaps all that area we've been referring to as "junk DNA" is significant. Perhaps there's a reason why a twin has a genetic disorder and another is healthy.
Point being, we know so little about DNA. What we do know is that it's not quite so simple as "chicken" and "not chicken."
In other words, a chicken does not get bit by a radioactive spider and the next generation is Spiderman.
Well it still depends. If your a religious person you say the chicken
If your a scientific you still say the chicken but go backwards and talk about its evolution to the chicken.
If you don't really care you can say either one.
if you have common sense you say the chicken because if were talking modern chickens, the egg has to be cared for by a hen till birth and then trained to survive.
If your a scientific you still say the chicken but go backwards and talk about its evolution to the chicken.
If you don't really care you can say either one.
if you have common sense you say the chicken because if were talking modern chickens, the egg has to be cared for by a hen till birth and then trained to survive.
The correct answer is the egg.It was layed by some other animal and through evolution it managed to hatch and ultimately form a chicken.
A chicken couldn't of have been the answer,because it had to be layed by some other chicken in order for it to hatch.
These questions just boggles the mind and they are pointless.
And to think that people make scientific studies to answer this question is unbelievable.Instead they could use their time to do something more productive and study something that really matters in this world(i won't give an example,just throw anything worthwhile in here).
A chicken couldn't of have been the answer,because it had to be layed by some other chicken in order for it to hatch.
These questions just boggles the mind and they are pointless.
And to think that people make scientific studies to answer this question is unbelievable.Instead they could use their time to do something more productive and study something that really matters in this world(i won't give an example,just throw anything worthwhile in here).
If you're the first person to prove it, God gives you a corvette filled with hookers.Double A said:
Virgin hookers.
Exactly: During those times, millions of years before today, God must have found Dinosaurs far more interesting than any 3 pound, feathery bird which couldn't even fly. There were many types of dinosaurs after all, many of whom could fly, swim, run, climb and, do all of these things better than your average chicken; even better than you above average chicken. When God wasn't making the dinosaurs be more awesome than chickens, he had them lay eggs so as to continue their existence. Then God killed them all off because he thought the idea of less hairy monkeys with the ability to not believe in him but still debate endlessly (and bloodily) about him seemed like a much better idea and, he didn't want the dinosaurs killing all of them once he had entered the source code.Horny Ico said:
He still thought the egg trick was pretty neat though so he entered some genetic data from the Dinosaurs into today's chicken thus enabling them to lay eggs.