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Lunar Shadow

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Folio said:
Lunar Shadow said:
Folio said:
Folio said:
The human came first before the foetus... what?

What I really want to know: What IS the sound of one hand clapping?
dathwampeer said:
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I guess that one was too easy. I expected Bart Simpson's reaction in the episode where he learns how to play golf. So didn't expect a video of an a-synchronised hand-clap beat.

I don't want to ask 'If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around, does it make a sound?' Because I get the most retarded answers without anyone listening to what I have to say to it.

(To make it short, there is no answer, it's a lesson. You need one to listen for the other to communicate. So there is no one without the other, no Yin without Yang. Get it?)
Actually Koans(which is what the teaching riddles are called) are more meant to teach a person to think laterally, to think in a different way, etc.
Wow, I never knew. Thanks! It seems it succeeded to do so. I wonder if there are more Koans than 'the hand', 'the tree', 'the egg' (well, scrap that one.) or 'The immobile object against and unstoppable force.'
Not all are questions, some are little stories or parables.
One of my favorites is this "A monk asked Tozen when he was weighing some flax, "What is Buddha?"

Tozen said, "This flax weighs three pounds."
 

Folio

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Lunar Shadow said:
Folio said:
Lunar Shadow said:
Folio said:
Folio said:
The human came first before the foetus... what?

What I really want to know: What IS the sound of one hand clapping?
dathwampeer said:
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I guess that one was too easy. I expected Bart Simpson's reaction in the episode where he learns how to play golf. So didn't expect a video of an a-synchronised hand-clap beat.

I don't want to ask 'If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around, does it make a sound?' Because I get the most retarded answers without anyone listening to what I have to say to it.

(To make it short, there is no answer, it's a lesson. You need one to listen for the other to communicate. So there is no one without the other, no Yin without Yang. Get it?)
Actually Koans(which is what the teaching riddles are called) are more meant to teach a person to think laterally, to think in a different way, etc.
Wow, I never knew. Thanks! It seems it succeeded to do so. I wonder if there are more Koans than 'the hand', 'the tree', 'the egg' (well, scrap that one.) or 'The immobile object against and unstoppable force.'
Not all are questions, some are little stories or parables.
One of my favorites is this "A monk asked Tozen when he was weighing some flax, "What is Buddha?"

Tozen said, "This flax weighs three pounds."
Hahahaha! That's almost a mindfuck! I gotta use that on my friends when they ask annoying questions.

Well, let's see. The monk doesn't ask a value. Tozen could have just ignored him. Wait, how on earth would this Tozen know what Buddha is? If Buddha is everywhere... he might weight three pounds... But seeming Buddha is very big (VERY big.) He would weigh more...
Sjeesh, it's confusing.

It's like this joke:
A giraffe went to a bakery. "I would like one bread, please.", said the Giraffe. "White or brown bread?", the baker asked. "Oh, it doesn't matter", the Giraffe replied. "I'm on a motorcycle anyway."
 

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Tele-screen said:
It is as I have long suspected. However, at some point there was a chicken who was the first genetically complete modern chicken and he/she had to have come out of an egg birthed from a non-chicken. Then it becomes a matter of semantics: is it a chicken egg that it came out of? or a non-chicken egg?
Oh look, the thread ended on page one and nobody even noticed. It's a matter of semantics like this guy said. A non-chicken lays an egg, from which emerges a chicken. You could argue it was a chicken egg, because a chicken came out of it. However, the egg did not originally belong to a chicken. So are we thinking chicken egg, or chicken's egg, eh?
 

Lunar Shadow

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Folio said:
Lunar Shadow said:
Folio said:
Lunar Shadow said:
Folio said:
Folio said:
The human came first before the foetus... what?

What I really want to know: What IS the sound of one hand clapping?
dathwampeer said:
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I guess that one was too easy. I expected Bart Simpson's reaction in the episode where he learns how to play golf. So didn't expect a video of an a-synchronised hand-clap beat.

I don't want to ask 'If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one around, does it make a sound?' Because I get the most retarded answers without anyone listening to what I have to say to it.

(To make it short, there is no answer, it's a lesson. You need one to listen for the other to communicate. So there is no one without the other, no Yin without Yang. Get it?)
Actually Koans(which is what the teaching riddles are called) are more meant to teach a person to think laterally, to think in a different way, etc.
Wow, I never knew. Thanks! It seems it succeeded to do so. I wonder if there are more Koans than 'the hand', 'the tree', 'the egg' (well, scrap that one.) or 'The immobile object against and unstoppable force.'
Not all are questions, some are little stories or parables.
One of my favorites is this "A monk asked Tozen when he was weighing some flax, "What is Buddha?"

Tozen said, "This flax weighs three pounds."
Hahahaha! That's almost a mindfuck! I gotta use that on my friends when they ask annoying questions.

Well, let's see. The monk doesn't ask a value. Tozen could have just ignored him. Wait, how on earth would this Tozen know what Buddha is? If Buddha is everywhere... he might weight three pounds... But seeming Buddha is very big (VERY big.) He would weigh more...
Sjeesh, it's confusing.

It's like this joke:
A giraffe went to a bakery. "I would like one bread, please.", said the Giraffe. "White or brown bread?", the baker asked. "Oh, it doesn't matter", the Giraffe replied. "I'm on a motorcycle anyway."
It helps to know a good deal about Buddhist enlightenment, but what it is trying to convey the fact that true enlightenment is being in the moment. The belief in zen is that one sits in meditation,they are experiencing enlightenment. True Enlightenment, Buddhahood, is being that with every action. Being mindful of everything. At least that is my interpretation.
 
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It seems they forgot about evolution since these are science people. So going on evolution some animal precursor to the chicken laid a chicken egg. That is it really. There was some animal that evolved into the chicken after it laid an egg and that egg hacthed into a chicken.
 

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Ridonculous_Ninja said:
eggy32 said:
-Zen- said:
The egg came first.

Animals laid eggs long before chickens existed.

Your point is moot.
The question is "Did the chicken egg or the chicken come first?" Everyone knows other animals laid eggs before chickens. Stop being an idiot.
An animal that was almost a chicken laid an egg that had a chicken in it.

Therefore the egg came first. If the protein is only found in chickens now, that's because the almost chicken animal became the chicken.
And of course the media's "experts" have been defeated by some guy on a gaming forum.

Unsurprised sushi is unsurprised.
 

tomtom94

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The assumption that the egg came first is based on the belief that the first chicken definitely hatched out of an egg.
Until we have proof of this either way, we cannot know the answer.
 

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Ridonculous_Ninja said:
eggy32 said:
-Zen- said:
The egg came first.

Animals laid eggs long before chickens existed.

Your point is moot.
The question is "Did the chicken egg or the chicken come first?" Everyone knows other animals laid eggs before chickens. Stop being an idiot.
An animal that was almost a chicken laid an egg that had a chicken in it.

Therefore the egg came first. If the protein is only found in chickens now, that's because the almost chicken animal became the chicken.
no that was a mutated pre-chicken egg.. not technically a chicken's egg
 

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ryai458 said:
Optix334 said:
That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.
Troll..Troll..Troll...
New question, which came first trolls or ignorance, will we ever know?
Ignorance as trolls were born from this.
Thus they spouted their ignorance infecting future generations.
 

Redingold

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Ah, I see, because this protein is currently only found in chickens, that means it never existed in any other animal, ever. Not, for instance, in the proto-chicken.

Yeah, that makes sense...

As for the question itself, it depends on whether you define a chicken egg as an egg laid by a chicken or as an egg containing a chicken embryo.
 

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Last Bullet said:
The correct answer is "T-Rex."

Hmm. Well, at least now I know. Also, I like how (following the link) they actually put quotations around "Scientific Proof."
I suppose the dinosaurs laid eggs before chickens existed.

Specified being chicken eggs, however, I think it would just be slightly useless to know. What could we achieve even if we did work out who came first? I think it would just be denial and gloats all around. Bragging rights is what this is.

Anyways. T-rex, Rawrsome.
 

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Tele-screen said:
It is as I have long suspected. However, at some point there was a chicken who was the first genetically complete modern chicken and he/she had to have come out of an egg birthed from a non-chicken. Then it becomes a matter of semantics: is it a chicken egg that it came out of? or a non-chicken egg?
Well precisely, given the egg contained a proper chicken then technically it is a chicken egg, but usually you would call the egg after what laid it, proto-chicken or something.

A more interesting variation on this theme is how the heck separate genders evolved? That would require two creatures to evolve in a way where they needed each other to reproduce. I have a vague notion that this started as some sort of parasitic reproduction between two very similar creatures. Though that is a kind of silly thought as that would mean men and women are different species.

It does boggle my socks off though.

Edit : I know that was nonsense, don't point it out, been awake for a very long time now, sick child :(
 

xavi

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Of course the chicken came first. I've seen a chicken lay an egg before and THAT chicken came before the egg.