It has been answered: The chicken came first!

[faspxina]

I always thought that the first chicken in the world was born from an egg that was laid by some other bird.

 

[T-Bone24]

i always thought evolution came first
then chicken
then egg
then more chickens
then more eggs

Well then, I don't think you quite understand how evolution works. The egg would have been layed by something that is nearly a chicken and the offspring would be a mutation that is a chicken. That chicken then passes on its genes and more chickens are made, and eventually the previous species dies out.

Therefore, the egg comes first.

i understand this but i always assumed it was a chicken egg, not a random egg
therefore the evolutions of species up until the point of the first real "Chicken egg" would be the evolution then the actual Chicken Egg, Then The Chicken and so on and so forth until they evolve again and Chickens cease to exist and are replaced by a new Species of Chicken-Like animals

Yeah, I suppose that egg would not have been technically a chicken egg.

 

[coolman9899]

IT was definetly a tie

 

[wickes666]

"The only problem now is discovering how the chicken came to be in the first place, though."
the answer? From the bloody egg! some chicken based creature layed an egg with a mutated from of itself, the chicken in it, so the egg had to come first

 

[Liquid Paradox]

For the record:

Specifically referring to a Chicken Egg is like cheating; the expression itself is "What came first, the chicken or the egg?".

So chicken eggs have protein in them which is only found in chickens? Welcome to evolution.

So, a bird who was one evolutionary step away from being a chicken lays an egg. Inside said egg is a bird with a special protein that only it can produce. This bird is the first ever chicken... and it came from an egg.

Which means, the egg came first.

 

[jjofearth]

Darwinian evolution through spontaneous genetic mutation came first.

 

[Optix334]

That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.

Troll..Troll..Troll...
New question, which came first trolls or ignorance, will we ever know?

Im offended.

That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.

i dont know if hes joking or being serious..... SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE!

Im being serious.

That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.

And where is your proof again?

On topic: It was a gradual process and since we weren't there during the process, I'd say its impossible to say. You'd have to determine what or what could first be described as a "chicken". Actually, the gradual process is still going. Nowadays, also because we injected a lot of cattle, they become more virus and fungus resistant. Result is that virusses and fungus adapt as well and make it a bigger threat to humanity.

Proof? Ok, here we go. First off, Mt.Siani (not sure on the spelling) the top of the mountain that is in the location the Bible has, is completely black. Like where God came down and touched the earth to give Moses the commandments. Second, the Dead Sea Scrolls. You can look those up. Third, Mt.Ararat in Turkey, the landing place of Noah's Ark. The Turkish goverment wont let anyone up there. There have been some brave people who tried to go up unnoticed but I think they were killed. There has also been 1 video of frozen/petrified wood on top on the mountain, way higher than any humans of the proposed time (by your carbon dating, which can be wrong by hundreds of thousands if not millions of years, but nobody says that do they?) could survive in. Not to mention this wood is around the same dimentions of the Ark according to Genesis, which was determined by satellites monitered by secular scientists, and researchers. I have more but right now I have more people to answer

That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.

Dinosaur fossils. Go pick up an actual book from your local school and learn something.

And don't misquote Charles Darwin either. Anyone with 1/2 a high school education knows you've taken what Darwin said out of context.

I didnt misquote Charled Darwin or take him out of context. He was recorded saying it on his death bed, look it up. I realize there are dinosaur fossils, I never said dinosaurs didnt exist. They did in fact and there are 2 mentioned in the Bible. There just isint any half T-rex half iquana is there?

And on one last note, How the hell could anything be created by an explosion? Explosions destroy things, not creat life. (The big bang for those who dont know what im talking about.)

 

[Bluesclues]

snip

It's already been shown that there's a link between dinosaurs like velociraptors, and birds, so please take your flawed beliefs to a more relevant topic, you're going to get banned soon enough for discussing religion in the wrong thread section.


Also, I find it funny that you didn't take the time to answer the post below as well, since you felt you needed to respond to everyone who called you a troll...2 months later.

That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.

Well, first of all, find me the quote of Charles Darwin saying evolution is wrong.

Second of all, the last thing a creationist should want is for this whole debate to be judged on evidence; even IF we decided to ignore EVERY SINGLE FOSSIL we have ever found, then there will still be more evidence supporting evolution than creationism.

Also, this one is much more personal, but you don't really think your arguments through, do you? "You evolutionists arent big of proof are you?" If you can provide me a single shred of evidence supporting creationism, or discounting evolution, I swear I will forever shut my mouth about this whole 'debate'.

Edit: Also, now I'm very curious about something; I looked at a few of your previous posts because I wanted to see if you were just trolling through the forums until you got banned or not, and on your other posts you actually seemed to base your opinions on logical thought, not just bashing the scientific process and closing your mind to rational debate.

 

[electric discordian]

Why were the chicken and the egg having sex? Isn't that both bestiality and child abuse at the same time? It is obvious its the chicken without a computer. Evolution would not create something in a thin easily breakable shell and expect it to adapt and survive now would it.

Alternatively God loves the little chickens so he would makesure they have a mummy!

 

[Lucifron]

An animal that laid eggs eventually evolved into a chicken. I thought that was obvious. What am I missing here?

It is obvious, and this is not news to anyone with a cursory knowledge of evolution. You're not missing anything.

 

[Optix334]

snip

It's already been shown that there's a link between dinosaurs like velociraptors, and birds, so please take your flawed beliefs to a more relevant topic, you're going to get banned soon enough for discussing religion in the wrong thread section.


Also, I find it funny that you didn't take the time to answer the post below as well, since you felt you needed to respond to everyone who called you a troll...2 months later.

That was easy. Its pretty obvious that God created the chicken first to lay more eggs. All this evolution crap is just dumb. If there was a "near chicken" or "almost chicken" where is the proof? there would be a fossil or something. You evolutionists arent big of proof are you? seeing as your...religion if you will...hasnt been proven. In fact its been disproven more that proven. Even evolutions founder, Charles Darwin, said it was wrong.

Well, first of all, find me the quote of Charles Darwin saying evolution is wrong.

Second of all, the last thing a creationist should want is for this whole debate to be judged on evidence; even IF we decided to ignore EVERY SINGLE FOSSIL we have ever found, then there will still be more evidence supporting evolution than creationism.

Also, this one is much more personal, but you don't really think your arguments through, do you? "You evolutionists arent big of proof are you?" If you can provide me a single shred of evidence supporting creationism, or discounting evolution, I swear I will forever shut my mouth about this whole 'debate'.

Edit: Also, now I'm very curious about something; I looked at a few of your previous posts because I wanted to see if you were just trolling through the forums until you got banned or not, and on your other posts you actually seemed to base your opinions on logical thought, not just bashing the scientific process and closing your mind to rational debate.

Im not a troll, I went on vacation for 3 weeks before classes started and kinda forgot about this.
OT:The Charles Darwin thing was recorded, you can look it up. I would but I have work to do.

 

[Bluesclues]

Snip the Second

You're a troll in the sense that you attempted to bring religion and religious beliefs into this thread. While there's nothing against the discussion of religion on this website, there are specific rules about discussing religion outside of the designated threads. The mods frown upon it, and do distribute punishment for it. It can also be considered de-railing the thread, since your belief has nothing to do with the actual main topic of this thread.

 

[Crowghast]

Why has it taken this long for people to get this? Of course the chicken came first. Christ people, it isn't like an egg could mate with another egg to make an egg.

 

[Optix334]

Snip the Second

You're a troll in the sense that you attempted to bring religion and religious beliefs into this thread. While there's nothing against the discussion of religion on this website, there are specific rules about discussing religion outside of the designated threads. The mods frown upon it, and do distribute punishment for it. It can also be considered de-railing the thread, since your belief has nothing to do with the actual main topic of this thread.

I used religion as an exlanation of how the chicken came first...how is that not relevant to the topic? It was everyone else who started the religion debate by screaming evolution at me.

 

[ImprovizoR]

The egg came first. Not the actual modern chicken egg but the egg that became the modern chicken, a lot later. Some of the scientific studies these days are just ridiculous.

 

[neoontime]

I kind of always got confused by the question, I mean were they talking about any egg or the chicken egg, anyway I'm glad it's been answered. Also, I'm really suprised about how many people were put on probation in this thread.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

A protein that only chickens could have? Well that's a useless conclusion, and a waste of money that could be spent saving starving orphans.

Yet another superfluous and inconclusive, not to mention expensive (for let's face it, these "scientists" obviously have no ability to think beyond their comfort zone), scientific study.