It seems vista is going to be replaced by Windows 7

[James Raynor]

Damn... I just got a laptop with Vista today.

I'm a very sad panda.

That sucks. =/

 

[perfectimo]

Damn it, I was going to be buying a new PC at the end of the year. I guess I'll be sticking with XP for a while.

 

[aussiesniper]

When I first got vista on my computer, I tried to play games with it. It was a horribly painful experience, with vast quantities of lag and irritating popup messages. However, after tuning the graphics down to semi-depressing levels* it was running smoothly. Unfortunately, the settings were so low, that I decided to use my older, generally worse XP computer to play games on. I got better performance from an XP computer with a 6600LE than I got from my vista computer with a 7600GT.

After I decided to start looking around a bit more, I found that vista did have some redeeming features. The search box in the start menu works brilliantly, and it is implemented very well. Apart from that, though, the only other redeeming features are basically slight visual improvements over XP.

*The settings were 1024x768 with no Antialiasing or filtering. Most other settings were at low. This was for Counter-strike source on a 7600GT.

 

[TheIceface]

For some reason, everyone in my family decided they needed to have laptops. So we have an HP, Acer, and 2 Dell laptops. 1 of the Dells is a bit older, running XP, and working just fine.

All the other laptops are all running Vista (straight from the factory), and all were suffering from oodles of problems. 1 of them has trouble recognizing the hard drive from time to time (hard drive was replaced, along with the connectors, still has the problem). One of them crashes randomly with different programs and games, some of which came standard with the OS (this one is back at the factory since it started experiencing problems 2 weeks after first use), and the last one only crashes about once or twice a day and just has problems running random programs.

My friend also has a laptop with Vista... Somehow he must have gotten one of those magical, never-crashes, works-with-everything, super laptops I've heard a few of you brag about. Maybe he got Bill gates to send him a special version of the OS since he is about as hardcore as Microsoft fanboys get. (Or maybe he just ignores/lies about the problems he "never" has.)

 

[poleboy]

What. The. Fuck.

I want my money back. They can't do this shit.

 

[MosDes]

See, either some of you are all hideously unlucky or substantially mentally deficient, because I've never run into any of the problems you have all accused Vista of having in the last seven months I've run it (and run it hard into the ground with dozens of sample libraries, effects plugins, and synthesizers simultaneously straining six hard drives, 8 gigabytes of RAM, and four 3.0 GHz processing cores) and I don't consider myself to be very lucky or proficient with computers/OS's.

So which one is it? Unlucky or incompetent?

You are a bit incompetent I believe. I cannot afford 8 GB of RAM, nor quad-core 3.0GHz processors. My notebook is a dual-core 1.6GHz with 1GB RAM, and that is why people have trouble with Vista: poor specs and poor pocket-book.

Yeah, the only thing is the new windows is built on the vista core, so its basicaly just a facelift, like XP was 2k with some patches, some tweaks for home user use and a new look.

From what I can see and read about Windows 7, it is Vista, kinda like they tried to do with Windows Mojave, har har har...

 

[Caliostro]

My only worry about Win7 is if they go ahead with something they mentioned a lil while back...

That being, they want Microsoft software to become subscription based, like an MMORPG. I for one will not pay monthly/yearly for my OS, even if the combined price of four years use is less than the shelf price today. Why? Because I am not inclined to rent an OS. I have legit copies of 98SE and XP-SP2 complete with CD and CDKeys. At any time, I can install or reinstall this software, because it's MINE. If I'm just subscribing to an OS, I can no longer use it once they decide to cancel support. It's forced upgrading, and as Vista has shown, UNLESS forced, the consumers will not upgrade just because Microsoft wants us to.

That would be a colossal dickmove... I, for one, would stay at XP if that happened. Buut, let's hope they came to their senses and ditched the idea.

Paying for the OS is one thing, it's like paying for a game but in a larger scale, sort of... But there's a reason I will NEVER play WoW, even if they made the combat worth it and the grinding null. I refuse to "rent" shit, I'll pay for it, but I won't pay to use it. And I especially won't pay FOR it -AND- to use it.

But yeah, Vista has always been a useless piece of shit. Most people knew Vista was just a money milker till their new Windows came along.

 

[MosDes]

My only worry about Win7 is if they go ahead with something they mentioned a lil while back...

That being, they want Microsoft software to become subscription based, like an MMORPG.

That would be a colossal dickmove... I, for one, would stay at XP if that happened. Buut, let's hope they came to their senses and ditched the idea.

Paying for the OS is one thing, it's like paying for a game but in a larger scale, sort of... But there's a reason I will NEVER play WoW, even if they made the combat worth it and the grinding null. I refuse to "rent" shit, I'll pay for it, but I won't pay to use it. And I especially won't pay FOR it -AND- to use it.

Amen to that.

If they drop XP and Vista like a rock, and then force us to subscribe, heh, I think I'd go full Linux, using programs like Wine to run my favorite programs. Linux may take a little longer to load, but it runs Adobe Photoshop a whole lot faster than even XP.

 

[edinflames]

Vista really is not that bad - i have had ZERO problems or issues with it since i started using it (about 1 year after it's intial release) - and all the old software i used with XP (office, photoshop, dreamweaver, flash etc...) all work with it flawlessly - not to memtion my vista machine is 10 x faster than my xp machine (and my vista machine is not a powerhouse by any means)- my brother was the same way - never used vista before and would always say "vista sucks" - i would ask him why and he couldn't give me a reason why - then his old pc broke down and he bought a new one with vista - and now he loves it.... i still dont see why everybody hates it so much - was that 1st year really that bad?

So true, I did the same thing, waited until they fixed it up before buying and its been a joy to use. The 2007 office is vastly superior in layout, the old software runs just fine (fallout + fallout 2 still run and they are 10+ years old), and the security is soooooo much better than XP. Besides which, I run dx10 on games like Clear Sky or Bioshock, which is a nice bonus.

Oh yeah, no viruses.

So why move on so quick? Most people have adopted a fairly Luddite approach to the OS, and just as soon as Vista desktops and laptops become cheap the credit crunch kicks in. I can't help but think the main reason is all a part of this rebranding-Windows-as-cool project - which wont work anyway since the most popular (by far) OS is never going to be the cool OS.

If you use a PC the way most pc-gamers do, Mac is no alternative.

edit: then again, i do run 64-bit version, 32-bit is probably rubbish.

 

[Eiseman]

I've heard Windows 7 will be more aimed at gamers this time..

.. about fucking time!! What took you so long?

Wait a minute. If Windows 7 is aimed towards gamers...

Spoiler: Could this be the new Blue Screen of Death?

 

[Danny Ocean]

11+ gb hard drive space and assloads of RAM for:

AN OPERATING SYSTEM

OH MY GOD

I bet you still have some free hard drive space though, right?

I run 32-bit Vista Home premium. It hasn't crashed once in the year I've had it, the only problem was that Dell (grr) shipped it with a dead hard drive. Even that didn't kill it.

Also, software people, how can I uninstall linux from my second hard drive when it can't reformat itself and Vista (on the other drive) can't detect it in explorer?

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

All that they really ever need to do is add DX10 functionality to XP. Problem solved - unless they want to keep stealing everybodys money like they are at the moment that is V_V.

 

[SmugFrog]

Vista was just a half finished OS just like ME was a half finished XP.

Exactly. Microsoft started working on a true successor to XP almost immediately after Vista was released. I feel cheated. I can make Vista do what I want it to do; but it was a lot of configuring to make my PC truly a "gaming" system under Vista. The latest games seem to support it a bit better; but a lot of old XP-based (or prior to XP) games have a hell of a time with it.

I bought a computer with ME - and shortly thereafter a friend picked one up that had XP on it. XP was vastly superior to ME, but ME wasn't the bastard child that Vista is either.

To me this is basically like Microsoft saying "Yeah, Vista is so screwed up we're just going to abandon it and move on to something else."

 

[TheIceface]

All that they really ever need to do is add DX10 functionality to XP. Problem solved - unless they want to keep stealing everybodys money like they are at the moment that is V_V.

Heh heh... funny story behind that.
DX10 is the only major hook Vista has over XP to gamers right now. Nothing else is worth it about Vista, especially when you count all the problems you're going to have for running with a grafix card older than a year (heaven forbid).

There was a freeware project going on for a while that was actually making a vista-emultator sort of thing for DX10. Basically the program was gonna make you be able to use DX10 on your XP OS.

They were doing excellent, they released a few versions that worked with a few games, but they still had a considerable amount of work to do to make it compatible with all the games. They were getting donations and tons of help from other open source programmers when one day they just stopped.

Just like that, the group that started the development basically said, "We were going to make this project work, but we failed. To bad, so sad, its over now."

Many rumors are circulating that they got paid out, or sued, by Microsoft so they wouldn't develop the one thing that would make gamers want to give Vista a try.

Don't believe me? Think I'm making this up just to cause a ruckus? Look up "The Alky Project". Go ahead, as far as I'm concerned, their sudden "failure" after months of success has the stink of Microsoft's selfishness all over it.