''It's frowned upon.''

[DeathWyrmNexus]

Christ, I can't believe this slipped my mind...

My father was a mink farmer. Imagine how going to school was like for me with all those treehuggers...and their leather shoes.

Oh dear god, don't you just love the hypocrits?

 

[JEBWrench]

Well, this is a depressing thread...

Who's up for a big game of Kerplunk?

Anyway, On the rare occasion that I do something nice, I usually get some gratitude.

Hells yeah, I'm in!

I've never experienced this phenomenon. Usually when I'm polite and courteous, I get treated in kind.

Maybe because they don't expect the burly guy with the thick beard and ponytail to be nice in a town like this.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Fuck, I had the exact same thing as you.

I had the foil from a piece of chewing gum that I threw into a regular bin outside this woman's house, and she came outside and had a go at me - she even saw what I was putting in (I guess she was coming outside anyway).

I wish I'd of just thrown it in her garden.

I'm guessing you're in the UK where the papers have just gone nuts with their fiction writers, turning an event of a person getting a letter about filling their trash bin with recyclables, can they please put them in the recycling bin provided next to it, into 'Government hires thousands of spies to creep around at midnight and rifle thru your bin, and if they find a ringpull not in the metal bin, you're going to JAIL!'

Honestly, some people are gullible enough to live in fear that someone will come along, put some rubbish in their bin, and they'll get fined for it.

So yes, they're stupid for yelling at you for using their bin, instead of just throwing it on the floor, but it's actually a whole new level of stupid.

I imagine most people, including the governments of the world would rather the occasional can, bottle or newspaper ended up in landfill, rather than just being tossed in someone's hedge.

NOTE: I'm very pro recycling, this is more about the ridiculous level of scaremongering going on in the tabloids, about spying, and microchips being fitted in bins, and officials taking away your rubbish to analyse it, so they can jail you for not recycling a jam jar.

 

[Conkzerton]

Well, some people were being dicks to my friend, so I stood up for her.
For my trouble, she turned against me, had a very public ***** about all my "issues" and is now best friends with the dicks, leaving me the outsider.
Turns out she was pretty nasty all round, safe to say she isn't my friend any more, and I'm a bit more hesitant to speak up for others these days. Sad times, when being nice turns friends against you.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Yeah I've had a few bad reactions, but I remember being the long haired, denim jacket covered in spikes and chains wearing, typical metal type when I was younger.

Then I'd go down my road and the little old ladies would be waving at me, and I was known to be the type who'd carry shopping home for them and do other little things, they saw past the outer shell, which is good as older people tend to get stereotyped as just thinking 'bah young people'.

I did once have an old man confront me when I was taking the bags of an old woman, he didn't know me and I guess me towering over her taking her stuff looked bad She soon sorted it out tho and he apologised for being aggressive towards me. Then I ran off with her handbag and spent her pension money on crack. (ok, not really)

 

[Casual Shinji]

Christ, I can't believe this slipped my mind...

My father was a mink farmer. Imagine how going to school was like for me with all those treehuggers...and their leather shoes.

Oh dear god, don't you just love the hypocrits?

The funny thing is that the mink fur industry is probably the most animal friendly of all the bio industries; their fur needs to look like a milion bucks so you can't treat them badly...Eventough you'd want to, those little fuckers can bite a wolverine.

 

[Javex]

I went to a New Years Eve ball. Something around 4,000 tickets were sold. A blizzard was happening that night. It was mandatory we checked our coats in. Then, when people tried to get their coats before they left, they realized there was no line system, just a mob crammed up to the counter. Also, they botched the coat check system. Nobody knew who's jacket was where. Everyone was pissed. It almost turned into a riot.

But standing in the crowd (or "line"), a guy ahead of me puked his guts up. He went to the bathroom. A different drunk guy walked up beside me, and then went ahead of me where the puker was. I told him he was standing in puke. He retorted with a "Fuck you! You're just trying to butt ahead of me! I'll kick your ass, pal!".

So I let him stand in the puke and waited 2.5 hours for my jacket. People are shit.

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

Christ, I can't believe this slipped my mind...

My father was a mink farmer. Imagine how going to school was like for me with all those treehuggers...and their leather shoes.

Oh dear god, don't you just love the hypocrits?

The funny thing is that the mink fur industry is probably the most animal friendly of all the bio industries; their fur needs to look like a milion bucks so you can't treat them badly...Eventough you'd want to, those little fuckers can bite a wolverine.

One could always point out to the tree huggers the cost of everything they are using at the moment in animal lives. Farms disembowel thousands if not millions of cute little bunnies each year during harvest. Not to say how much death is involved in the roads they drive on, the rubber for their bike tires, the poster board they protest with, etc etc. Not even counting the amount of infrastructure required to ***** on the internet about inhumanity.

 

[Yoshemo]

Once hugged my best friend on his birthday in public. Nearly got beat up for being gay.. had to show the other guys his double D cup girlfriend to shut them up. It wasn't even a big hug!

 

[Warachia]

finding out on my own how to change add/remove DNA from parts of the body in a Bio 30 class so that you could make adjustments, like strengthening muscles in the arms, legs, and so on, along with bieng able to change the body in whatever way you see fit, before bieng told it was "unethical"

but that's just me.

 

[Bagaloo]

There was an old lady who lives at the bottom of my street, I saw her struggling to carry her shopping home so I politely offered to help her carry them. She told me to go away, so I just left her alone. About 2 hours later I had a visit from the police, She had accused me off trying to steal her shopping.

I'm afraid that is just part of getting older. People start to feel more vulnerable, and misinterpret a good deed as somebody trying to screw you over.

OT: I never did understand the taboo that is putting rubbish in somebody else's bin. If it's something ridiculously big, like an entire sack of rubbish, that's fair enough to get pissed about, but when I'm walking down the street, finish my can of coke and chuck it in the nearby trash can of somebody's house, why do they get up in arms over it? Would you rather I threw it onto your lawn?

 

[Casual Shinji]

Christ, I can't believe this slipped my mind...

My father was a mink farmer. Imagine how going to school was like for me with all those treehuggers...and their leather shoes.

Oh dear god, don't you just love the hypocrits?

The funny thing is that the mink fur industry is probably the most animal friendly of all the bio industries; their fur needs to look like a milion bucks so you can't treat them badly...Eventough you'd want to, those little fuckers can bite a wolverine.

One could always point out to the tree huggers the cost of everything they are using at the moment in animal lives. Farms disembowel thousands if not millions of cute little bunnies each year during harvest. Not to say how much death is involved in the roads they drive on, the rubber for their bike tires, the poster board they protest with, etc etc. Not even counting the amount of infrastructure required to ***** on the internet about inhumanity.

Yeah, but that would mean reasoning with animal-rights activists.

...You see the conundrum there?

 

[Tonimata]

You know...
If it's frowned upon, I'll just do it for the sake of argument

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Being an atheist... in a Christian household. That's my reality.

I'll see your atheist and raise you a vegan.

Though I am out of my parent's house, and they're quite respectful of my views.

Vegans seem more the way christians are. Preaching about how they are right and morally better because the rest of us prefer to enjoy things.

It would seem that way, but let me ask you this: when someone mentions that they're vegan, how many people jump at their throats? Anyone who believes in anything can "preach" about how they're right - including many atheists - and it makes sense to engage people in moral issues, combat misconceptions, and express oneself. What's relevant isn't whether or not one speaks about his or her beliefs, but the reasons for those beliefs. But that's not the point of this thread.

Being vegan is unseemly to many who belong to the mainstream. "It's frowned upon." Vegans may frown upon those who consume animal products, but it goes both ways, and I'm the one being judged by the mainstream. Regardless of whether or not you agree with moral vegans, my post remains relevant.

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

Christ, I can't believe this slipped my mind...

My father was a mink farmer. Imagine how going to school was like for me with all those treehuggers...and their leather shoes.

Oh dear god, don't you just love the hypocrits?

The funny thing is that the mink fur industry is probably the most animal friendly of all the bio industries; their fur needs to look like a milion bucks so you can't treat them badly...Eventough you'd want to, those little fuckers can bite a wolverine.

One could always point out to the tree huggers the cost of everything they are using at the moment in animal lives. Farms disembowel thousands if not millions of cute little bunnies each year during harvest. Not to say how much death is involved in the roads they drive on, the rubber for their bike tires, the poster board they protest with, etc etc. Not even counting the amount of infrastructure required to ***** on the internet about inhumanity.

Yeah, but that would mean reasoning with animal-rights activists.

...You see the conundrum there?

Yes, yes I do. It is why I feel I should be a hermit so I am not tempted.

 

[SonOfIkaros]

Being nice to people doesn't pay off. Because the world is so full of pricks, everyone expects you to be one too, and treat you like one, even if you try to be nice.

What a positive way of life.

I know, but everywhere I go, it seems to be true. In Holland, there's even a commercial which roughly translates to "how to deal with nice people".

Attitudes like yours are the reason for that. 'Everyone else is a bastard, why should I be nice?'

Exactly! Eye for an eye will only make the world blind, and all that. I know it's tough, but the only way to ensure people will behave nice towards you is if you are nice towards them.

I generally try to live after "do unto others what you would have them do unto you." It's very tough at times, but I think it's worth it. There's nothing like lifting someone's spirit simply by smiling at them and being nice to them. You just have to keep on going even when the going gets tough, though I admit it can be very hard to keep up at times.

Anyway, yeah, I completely agree with you; it is because attitudes such as the one you mentioned that most people are dicks. The best thing you can do is simply try to break the vicious cycle and be a little nice.

 

[t_rexaur]

OT: I never did understand the taboo that is putting rubbish in somebody else's bin. If it's something ridiculously big, like an entire sack of rubbish, that's fair enough to get pissed about, but when I'm walking down the street, finish my can of coke and chuck it in the nearby trash can of somebody's house, why do they get up in arms over it? Would you rather I threw it onto your lawn?

I think most people would rather you hold on to your rubbish and put it in your own bin. I'm not saying what's right and wrong, but a bin is still someone's property and you using it without asking could well be an affront to them, as petty as that may be.

As for the topic, I can't think of anything off hand. Most of my good gestures don't tend to come back and bite me thankfully.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Christ, I can't believe this slipped my mind...

My father was a mink farmer. Imagine how going to school was like for me with all those treehuggers...and their leather shoes.

Oh dear god, don't you just love the hypocrits?

The funny thing is that the mink fur industry is probably the most animal friendly of all the bio industries; their fur needs to look like a milion bucks so you can't treat them badly...Eventough you'd want to, those little fuckers can bite a wolverine.

One could always point out to the tree huggers the cost of everything they are using at the moment in animal lives. Farms disembowel thousands if not millions of cute little bunnies each year during harvest. Not to say how much death is involved in the roads they drive on, the rubber for their bike tires, the poster board they protest with, etc etc. Not even counting the amount of infrastructure required to ***** on the internet about inhumanity.

You think that maybe keeping millions of animals in crowded captivity for their whole lives, with all the boredom and suffering that entails, for frivolous reasons (such as producing food that provides nutrients which we can get elsewhere) is a different issue than running over wildlife in a regrettable instant?

And let's not forget that hypocrisy doesn't null arguments. Someone may not practice what they preach. That may be a personal failing, but that doesn't mean that what they preach isn't correct. You have to address arguments, not attack the people making them. Ad hominem attacks are intellectually dishonest.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html

Bill: "Smoking is very unhealthy and leads to all sorts of problems. So take my advice and never start."
Jill: "Well, I certainly don't want to get cancer."
Bill: "I'm going to get a smoke. Want to join me Dave?"
Jill: "Well, I guess smoking can't be that bad. After all, Bill smokes."

 

[Alex The Rat]

I and my group of friends got the cops called on us once for caroling. To be fair it was in March, and pathetically enough none of us actually remembered all the words to most of the songs we were singing, but still!! (Surprisingly enough alcohol was not involved in this story, just bored teenagers)