It's offical. The protestors are getting stupider.

[Zoe Castillo]

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[lacktheknack]

Tact is dead.

That's the only conclusion I've drawn after reading this thread.

 

[Shemming]

This is another case of the media giving one sided cover of the protests, in any large group of people they'll be idiots. this is just another case of the coperations in control of the news feeding out there one sided agenda. this jsut shows how much control they have over the masses.

 

[Heeman89]

Clegane]

SNIP

The Wall Street protesters are stupid anyway. hey don't have a clue how the economy works, they don't have a clue what they're arguing for, their just a bunch of idiots with too much spare time. There's a brilliant photo of a protester holding up a "Down with corporations sign" While he is texting on his iphone, wearing oakleys sunglasses and designer clothes. What an idiot.

The most annoying ones are the ones who think the rest of the world support them. I saw one sign that read "London is rising with us." Lol, no it isn't.

Because if you want a change in the way the world works, you're not allowed to wear/use the toys that corporations make, amirite?

HEY YOU! YOU DON'T LIKE CAPITALISM! YOU HAVE TO WEAR CLOTHING YOU MADE YOURSELF OUT OF FLAX! YOU CANNOT DRIVE! YOU MUST WALK EVERYWHERE, BAREFOOT!

Sorry, doesn't work that way.

I don't think he was implying that protesting with clothes made by corporations was bad, he was merely commenting that that guy probably doesn't "get it" while he is standing around waving that sign. That guy is there because he saw it on Facebook or Twitter and all his friends are attending it so he went because he didn't want to be left out. He probably doesn't understand that corporations that use practically slave labor in other countries to make your "designer" clothes are just as much a part of the problem as the corporations who didn't get to where they are by good old values like hard work instead they got there by screwing someone else or kissing ass or corruption.

OT: I still haven't figured out if I "like" (not sure how else to put that) these Occupy people yet. I'm trying to understand what they are trying to accomplish but they don't seem to have a clearly defined long term plan.

The problem I really have is just the HUGE double standard with the media in the US of A. When the "Tea Party" started people were calling them "extremist", "hateful", "racist" etc when all they were doing was protesting against what (my opinion) looks like government run health care. For those who believe in small government, that is a BIG deal. But with "Occupy" people if ANYTHING happens to them, instant violation of their First amendment rights. If the owner of the PRIVATELY owned park wants to close it to clean it up (because if he doesn't he will be violating health and safety regulations in the city) they claim that he is trying to shut them down and crush their rights. No he is isn't! He has to follow the law! If someone gets hurt on his property he could be liable. It's double standards like this that make me weep for this country.

 

[DocApoc]

Which game is this? It sounds terrible. I will not be buying it.

 

[Da Orky Man]

Speaking as someone who has been tortured...

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, Any abuse of police power is Police Brutality. The police have absolutely no right to harm a citizen who is peacefully protesting. There are little to no cases in this protest where people are physically harming one another, therefore every arrest, every pepper spraying that I have seen at these protests, I can safely call Police Brutality.

DO NOT attempt to downplay police brutality, as it is the first step on the road to government funded gas chambers.

"Fear the Government that does not fear it's people."

Also, for taking torture so lightly, from one person to another, go fuck yourself.

"Abuse of power". I know of next to no cases where the police can be seen to have abused their power in the UK nor the US. If you are dealing with a huge amount of protesters in a country with extremely lax gun laws, then the police must be prepared for the possibility of a violent outcome. The police have a hard job during a protest. They have thousands of people pushing at them, hurling insults and occasionally a fist at them. If someone attacks a police officer, then pepper spray is a suitable retaliatory method, since it's designed to prevent the attacker from causing any more damage.
And arrests are not brutality. I was once arrested because I had a paracetamol in my pocket. They suspected it may be an illegal drug, so I got pulled in. Once they tested it, I was let out. Every arrest I've seen at the London Riots a while back was made against someone who was either looting or assaulting someone.


And I'm sorry to hear you have been the victim of police brutality before, but don't judge them all. Most police are good, hard-working people.

 

[Grant Hobba]

Your summary of the trigger of the great depression is quite glib, but if it helps you spin your narrative, I say embrace it. LOL PROTESTERS!

Alright, I'll go a bit more indepth.

The Great Depression first 'started' when the stock market started to tank. Because value was going down so quickly, everyone started selling off their shares. Since everyone was selling their stock but nobody was really buying, it caused the stock market to crash so rapidly that banks were forced to shut down because, in addition to giving people loans (Who then used that to invest in the stock market), they also invested in the stock market themselves.

With news that some banks were falling, a great number of people pulled their money out of banks at the same time. Because the banks didn't actually HAVE that money to give out (Because it was loaned out to other people), those banks were forced to close as well.

Companies and businesses that failed to pull out of the banks fast enough lost all of their money when the bank closed. So it became a race against time to pull out all of your money, which caused the banks to fail even faster.

It was a self-fulfilling prophecy. People took their money out of the bank because they were afraid it would fail, which caused them to fail...

Anyway, the banks going down caused many businesses to go bankrupt which meant many people lost their jobs. Prices started to inflate, but noone was making enough money to pay the higher prices. So more people lost their jobs because the business couldn't afford to keep them on because nobody was buying their products, but noone was buying their products because nobody had any money.

And so the cycle continued until the global economy crashed. Fun story, no?

Edit: So while the trigger of the Great Depression was the crash of the stock market, by doing a wide-scale bank run, they're skipping that step and going straight to 'crash the banks'. Which is what actually caused the GD.

I wouldn't say global, I'd say most first world countries crashed.

I doubt highly that it has even the slightest effect on Mexico or other already poor countries ^.^

 

[weker]

Police brutality that isnt actually happening?

LOL. Just laugh out fucking loud. You are a thousand times more delusional than the stupidest wall street protester, OP.

Because obviously police aren't allowed to defend themselves. If someone hits them, they should stand there and do nothing.

The moped thing was staged. (And he wasn't a protestor. He was a legal observer)

The two women who were pepper sprayed...don't know the story behind that, but it's fucking pepper spray. You're fine after like half an hour.You get over it.

Call me when the police start firing live rounds into groups of protestors. Then we'll talk.

When officers start doing that it's murder not brutality, Police have been shown repeatedly harming members of the public when they are doing nothing, or overreacting to other events.

Even if you claim that when the camera dips someone attack or something, that does not condone using mace on a large crowd, he even caught an officer next to him with the spray.

There are many others online, from parking on peoples legs, too punching a man in the back of the head, while he was walking away.(who some posted as they thought it was a woman sexism FTW (sarcasm))

If you think police brutality is made up at the 99% protest, then you are either ill informed, haven't researched enough, or are being ignorant to the possibility.

Also so you wouldn't mind if police were allowed to spray anyone with mace? that stuff canes, that's why your not allowed to go around spraying people in the face with it.

 

[idarkphoenixi]

At first I was wondering if I was going to read about them assaulting a bank, that would at least come into the realm of getting stupider.
Also, I have news for you: People do this kind of thing all the time. Im pretty sure the Great Depression only happened once so there were clearly different factors other than "people withdrew lots of money from Mr. Bankey herpy-derp."

This? I don't see the big deal. Besides, that monthly fee is ridiculous anyway, so they're just fighting back in the only way they can...peacefully. What are they suposed to do otherwise? Just say "okay bankers, charge me whatever you want! Want us to bend over, if it would be easier?"


If the banks were that afraid about it they'd just change the policy.

btw, captcha: pneumococci...No reason, I just thought it was funny

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44800021/

So, a group of the Occupy Wall Street protestors decided, 'Hey. Let's make a Bank Run!' (For those who don't know what that is, it's when a bunch of people go to withdraw their money at the same time with the purpose of causing the bank to crash. This happens because the banks don't actually have large amounts of money in them. When you put money in the bank, they loan that money out to other people.)

When this happens on a wide scale, it's called a bank panic. Know what happened the last time a bank panic occurred? The Great Depression. And no, that wasn't coincidental. The bank panic directly caused the Great Depression because everyone attempting to withdraw money that didn't exist caused the economy to completely collapse. Which leads me to my point-

Crashing the economy would mean that the 99% will be the only ones who suffer. The people with obscene amounts of money will just ride through the inevitable rampant inflation like nothing happened while everyone else loses everything because they can't afford $1,000 loafs of bread.

People keep bitching about police brutality that isn't even happening. Maybe the police actually do need to start beating some sense into these people.

I am not quite sure what you are saying. Are you saying that 40k odd people will crash an economy doing this? I disagree with this knowing how the PLR and SLR work. On the other hand are you just saying this is bad idea? This I agree with as it won't collapse the economy but it won't help the situation.

There is police brutality but I agree this is not the way to go about protesting it.

 

[Professor_Page]

You guys need to stop worrying about the economy and start worrying about Winter.

You won't be crying about banks when the whitewalkers storm the cities.

EVERYONE TO THE WALL! WINTER IS COMING!

 

[Da Orky Man]

Speaking as someone who has been tortured...

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, Any abuse of police power is Police Brutality. The police have absolutely no right to harm a citizen who is peacefully protesting. There are little to no cases in this protest where people are physically harming one another, therefore every arrest, every pepper spraying that I have seen at these protests, I can safely call Police Brutality.

DO NOT attempt to downplay police brutality, as it is the first step on the road to government funded gas chambers.

"Fear the Government that does not fear it's people."

Also, for taking torture so lightly, from one person to another, go fuck yourself.

"Abuse of power". I know of next to no cases where the police can be seen to have abused their power in the UK nor the US. If you are dealing with a huge amount of protesters in a country with extremely lax gun laws, then the police must be prepared for the possibility of a violent outcome. The police have a hard job during a protest. They have thousands of people pushing at them, hurling insults and occasionally a fist at them. If someone attacks a police officer, then pepper spray is a suitable retaliatory method, since it's designed to prevent the attacker from causing any more damage.
And arrests are not brutality. I was once arrested because I had a paracetamol in my pocket. They suspected it may be an illegal drug, so I got pulled in. Once they tested it, I was let out. Every arrest I've seen at the London Riots a while back was made against someone who was either looting or assaulting someone.


And I'm sorry to hear you have been the victim of police brutality before, but don't judge them all. Most police are good, hard-working people.

I am not judging all police for the actions of those who abuse their power, not by a longshot, I love the police and I know they are mostly made up of caring people.

But...

""Abuse of power". I know of next to no cases where the police can be seen to have abused their power in the UK nor the US."


ARE YOU KIDDING?

What planet do you live on?

I'm glad someone knows the police are doing a decent job. It's hard to find rational-minded people.

Ok, I concede that I don't know much about police controversies in the USA. But almost every case I hear about in the UK is later shown to either be the media blowing things out of proportion, or the protester hitting first. There are always exceptions, but they are relatively rare.

 

[tendaji]

I find it interesting how people are surprised to see police brutality. Every movement in a very large portion of history includes authority inflicting violence on protestors, whether deserved or not. And I highly doubt that will change ever, there is no real reason for it to change, I'm just glad that it is now more pepper spray than beatings and live ammunition.

I'm not saying that that excuses the figures who act with brutality, I'm just saying this is nothing new when it comes to protesting.

 

[-|-]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44800021/

So, a group of the Occupy Wall Street protestors decided, 'Hey. Let's make a Bank Run!' (For those who don't know what that is, it's when a bunch of people go to withdraw their money at the same time with the purpose of causing the bank to crash. This happens because the banks don't actually have large amounts of money in them. When you put money in the bank, they loan that money out to other people.)

When this happens on a wide scale, it's called a bank panic. Know what happened the last time a bank panic occurred? The Great Depression. And no, that wasn't coincidental. The bank panic directly caused the Great Depression because everyone attempting to withdraw money that didn't exist caused the economy to completely collapse. Which leads me to my point-

Crashing the economy would mean that the 99% will be the only ones who suffer. The people with obscene amounts of money will just ride through the inevitable rampant inflation like nothing happened while everyone else loses everything because they can't afford $1,000 loafs of bread.

People keep bitching about police brutality that isn't even happening. Maybe the police actually do need to start beating some sense into these people.

Perhaps you can explain why crashing a bank will make the 99% suffer? What is the actual mechanism for this? Do you know anything at all about banking?

Honestly, go read about how banks work; how they have stolen your money, and your future childrens money. Go read about the fact that most of the money you see will be taken in taxation or interest payments.

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

Prosters...and Speaking as a New yorker who has to work around that area, i mean yeah i understand waht they are protesting about... but Why wall Street, They have nothing to do with the Economy and Tution raise, go to Albany....That is where the decisons are made and white house as well.

 

[Treblaine]

These people are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem.

The thing is this will be NOTHING BUT about the police brutality because the protesters don't have any other case to argue, their demands are childish and unworkable trying to be forced through by disruption and provocation.

Activist who can't convince the ordinary sane public that their economic ideas are a good idea will get "sympathy support" when the police smack them around a bit and really, do you REALLY think the protesters are doing everything in their power to avoid confrontation? No, they are verbally abusive, taunting and dare the police to over-react PURELY for the photo op. I have little sympathy for those "poor-me's" who deliberately bring hardship on themselves looking for sympathy. It's disingenuous.

This is the kind of mindset that widely yells it's a "POLICE STATE!" if there is any justified resistance to their deliberative disruptive, obstructive and intimidating actions. I can't stand these anti-intellectual jerks who have no concept of compromise or proportionality.

 

[Treblaine]

Yay to the western world going down the shitter!
No really, I'd enjoy the anarchy.

Your avatar... have you played Bioshock to completion?

Do you realise THE INTENSE IRONY of using Atlas as an avatar?!?!?

I'm genuinely curious.

 

[aksel]

I don't really understand economy, even less global economy, but as far as I can see it, when the value of the USD hits rock-bottom, you can make a lot of money with simple currency exchange.

TO THE BANKS!