J.J. Abrams Addresses Lack of Rey in The Force Awakens Merchandise

[Dead Metal]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

 

[Redryhno]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

 

[Callate]

Star Wars: The Force Awakens Monopoly

Official Rules

If playing as the Luke Skywalker token, remain on "Go" until the game is over.

 

[Chriss_m]

I just got a warning from a moderator, several days after I left a comment, which continued to be a perfectly civil discussion. This has happened numerous times. My premium expires next month, I won't be renewing it.

Not because "muh free speech", but simply because the shoddy moderation is getting in the way of enjoyable and entertaining conversations, to the point where I'm constantly questioning what I can actually say. Why would I pay for that?

 

[Dead Metal]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

No.
She was established right from the start to be a capable fighter, she gets jumped by a gang and by the time Fin got anywhere close enough she had already dispatched of them.
She doesn't get the force stuff right the first try, there is an entire cool and hilarious scene in which she tries to get the Jedi Mind Trick right, failing the first couple times. Her first instances of using the force are all accidental and more like automatic reactions, kinda how a talented person might learn of their talent.
The endfight with Kylo Ren, after Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, Chewbacca goes mental and starts shooting, one of his shots hits Ren in the stomach. Before this the movie reminds everyone of hiw powerful his bowcaster is.
Ren is severely wounded before he fights Rey. When Rey first uses the lightsaber she first fights with it as if it was her staff but changes her style after noticing that that's not the right way ti use it.
That's why she's a great character, she's capable and grows on screen, we actually get to see her potential.

 

[Sozora]

Somehow, I can't help bu think The fact that little boys might not want to play with a girl action figure never even crossed their minds. Have any of these people ever interacted with a child? Do they remember what it's like to be a child? It's mostly young boys who want the action figures, and any boy who activly wants the girl characters is gonna face no end of guff from his buddies.

 

[Sozora]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

No.
She was established right from the start to be a capable fighter, she gets jumped by a gang and by the time Fin got anywhere close enough she had already dispatched of them.
She doesn't get the force stuff right the first try, there is an entire cool and hilarious scene in which she tries to get the Jedi Mind Trick right, failing the first couple times. Her first instances of using the force are all accidental and more like automatic reactions, kinda how a talented person might learn of their talent.
The endfight with Kylo Ren, after Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, Chewbacca goes mental and starts shooting, one of his shots hits Ren in the stomach. Before this the movie reminds everyone of hiw powerful his bowcaster is.
Ren is severely wounded before he fights Rey. When Rey first uses the lightsaber she first fights with it as if it was her staff but changes her style after noticing that that's not the right way ti use it.
That's why she's a great character, she's capable and grows on screen, we actually get to see her potential.

So, given everything she can do already, what exactly can she grow into? Is episode 8 gonna have her using the force to throw a moon on Darth Linkin Park? Will Episode 9 end with her blowing up the sun of the system Snoke is in with her mind and declaring herself the God Empress of Mankind?

Seriously, where can she go from here? The only realy story she has is who her parents are and why she was left on planet NotTattooine.

 

[Dead Metal]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

No.
She was established right from the start to be a capable fighter, she gets jumped by a gang and by the time Fin got anywhere close enough she had already dispatched of them.
She doesn't get the force stuff right the first try, there is an entire cool and hilarious scene in which she tries to get the Jedi Mind Trick right, failing the first couple times. Her first instances of using the force are all accidental and more like automatic reactions, kinda how a talented person might learn of their talent.
The endfight with Kylo Ren, after Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, Chewbacca goes mental and starts shooting, one of his shots hits Ren in the stomach. Before this the movie reminds everyone of hiw powerful his bowcaster is.
Ren is severely wounded before he fights Rey. When Rey first uses the lightsaber she first fights with it as if it was her staff but changes her style after noticing that that's not the right way ti use it.
That's why she's a great character, she's capable and grows on screen, we actually get to see her potential.

So, given everything she can do already, what exactly can she grow into? Is episode 8 gonna have her using the force to throw a moon on Darth Linkin Park? Will Episode 9 end with her blowing up the sun of the system Snoke is in with her mind and declaring herself the God Empress of Mankind?

Seriously, where can she go from here? The only realy story she has is who her parents are and why she was left on planet NotTattooine.

Where can she go from here? Lern to use her force powers maybe? Seriously, don't comment on something you haven't seen.

 

[Sozora]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

No.
She was established right from the start to be a capable fighter, she gets jumped by a gang and by the time Fin got anywhere close enough she had already dispatched of them.
She doesn't get the force stuff right the first try, there is an entire cool and hilarious scene in which she tries to get the Jedi Mind Trick right, failing the first couple times. Her first instances of using the force are all accidental and more like automatic reactions, kinda how a talented person might learn of their talent.
The endfight with Kylo Ren, after Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, Chewbacca goes mental and starts shooting, one of his shots hits Ren in the stomach. Before this the movie reminds everyone of hiw powerful his bowcaster is.
Ren is severely wounded before he fights Rey. When Rey first uses the lightsaber she first fights with it as if it was her staff but changes her style after noticing that that's not the right way ti use it.
That's why she's a great character, she's capable and grows on screen, we actually get to see her potential.

So, given everything she can do already, what exactly can she grow into? Is episode 8 gonna have her using the force to throw a moon on Darth Linkin Park? Will Episode 9 end with her blowing up the sun of the system Snoke is in with her mind and declaring herself the God Empress of Mankind?

Seriously, where can she go from here? The only realy story she has is who her parents are and why she was left on planet NotTattooine.

Where can she go from here? Lern to use her force powers maybe? Seriously, don't comment on something you haven't seen.

I HAVE seen it. She worked out force pull, the mind trick, and how to rip info out of someone's head in a matter of hours. The heck is she gonna learn at this point? With how easily all this comes to her, Episode 8 might as well start a week after episode 7 ended with Luke telling her there's nothing left to learn.

 

[Redryhno]

Where can she go from here? Lern to use her force powers maybe? Seriously, don't comment on something you haven't seen.

Or maybe don't jump on someone having a different opinion than yours on a character that has quite a bit of "love or hate" audience? And learn to use her force powers? Seriously? Luke spent two films learning how to use the most basic of Force powers as the son of one of the most gifted Jedi ever born and taught by two of the most respected and storied Jedi of the era. And you're going to tell me that, at the moment, it's good storytelling to have ANYONE appear without any amount of training and do that shit when they've established that they sorta need the training to begin with?

Even Anakin didn't do anything until the second movie YEARS after the first after he'd had training beyond honestly just podracing and letting R2 do most of everything in the ship.

 

[PunkRex]

The characters in the monopoly game were Finn, Luke Skywalker, Kylo Ren and Darth Vader. So Rey isn't in it but to be fair Poe isn't either so... eh?

Since when has there only been 4 pieces in a Monopoly set, aren't you meant to get like 6?

~Check's his Adventure Time Monopoly~

Yeah, just as I thou... wait... there's no Marceline in this, F*CKING BULLOX!

Butt cereal: To all the people making excuses for Hasbro and saying it's not a big deal even, if it's not the dreaded SEXISM!-
-she's the bloody main character, she should at least be on a lunch box. Granted Vader is the one on the majority of original trilogy merch these days but that was only after his popularity exploded.

Rey isnt being ignored by manufacturers because she is female. She is being ignored because she is a boring, Mary Sue character who doesnt inspire female nor male children. The more time passes, the more people will get over the buzz, and realize Rey isnt really a Star Wars-worthy character.

And Luke was a shinning beacon of badassitude who wasn't in any way whiny or annoying in the first film...

She may have been a tad pwecious but if Mr. 'I know everything despite barely ever leaving my farm' could turn into such a cool character then Rey's got a chance. She is learning from him after all.

 

[Redryhno]

Rey isnt being ignored by manufacturers because she is female. She is being ignored because she is a boring, Mary Sue character who doesnt inspire female nor male children. The more time passes, the more people will get over the buzz, and realize Rey isnt really a Star Wars-worthy character.

And Luke was a shinning beacon of badassitude who wasn't in any way whiny or annoying in the first film...

She may have been a tad pwecious but if Mr. 'I know everything despite barely ever leaving my farm' could turn into such a cool character then Rey's got a chance. She is learning from him after all.

And I don't think anybody has really ever tried to argue that Luke was amazeballs insane role model for kids everywhere either in the first movie.

 

[Dead Metal]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

No.
She was established right from the start to be a capable fighter, she gets jumped by a gang and by the time Fin got anywhere close enough she had already dispatched of them.
She doesn't get the force stuff right the first try, there is an entire cool and hilarious scene in which she tries to get the Jedi Mind Trick right, failing the first couple times. Her first instances of using the force are all accidental and more like automatic reactions, kinda how a talented person might learn of their talent.
The endfight with Kylo Ren, after Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, Chewbacca goes mental and starts shooting, one of his shots hits Ren in the stomach. Before this the movie reminds everyone of hiw powerful his bowcaster is.
Ren is severely wounded before he fights Rey. When Rey first uses the lightsaber she first fights with it as if it was her staff but changes her style after noticing that that's not the right way ti use it.
That's why she's a great character, she's capable and grows on screen, we actually get to see her potential.

So, given everything she can do already, what exactly can she grow into? Is episode 8 gonna have her using the force to throw a moon on Darth Linkin Park? Will Episode 9 end with her blowing up the sun of the system Snoke is in with her mind and declaring herself the God Empress of Mankind?

Seriously, where can she go from here? The only realy story she has is who her parents are and why she was left on planet NotTattooine.

Where can she go from here? Lern to use her force powers maybe? Seriously, don't comment on something you haven't seen.

I HAVE seen it. She worked out force pull, the mind trick, and how to rip info out of someone's head in a matter of hours. The heck is she gonna learn at this point? With how easily all this comes to her, Episode 8 might as well start a week after episode 7 ended with Luke telling her there's nothing left to learn.

Ok, sorry, you just sounded like the guys who hated her without having seen the movie.
Thing is, we don't really know anything about her, it could turn out that she was trained before being abandoned on Jakku and everything we've seen is just her muscle memory.
Or she was trained but hasn't used her stuff in years, and her testing the powers here was not her trying to learn them, but her seeing if she could still use them.

 

[happyninja42]

I HAVE seen it. She worked out force pull, the mind trick, and how to rip info out of someone's head in a matter of hours. The heck is she gonna learn at this point? With how easily all this comes to her, Episode 8 might as well start a week after episode 7 ended with Luke telling her there's nothing left to learn.

Oh I don't know, she could learn that "freeze time" power that they introduced with Kylo Ren. She could learn Battle Meditation, Force Healing, Forsee (Force Visions), Force Jump, Force Speed, Blaster Deflection, Lifting big objects (Luke didn't know how to lift big shit just 'cause he moved a lightsaber), and basically every other Force power that's been created over the years, and every new thing JJ and the others come up with for their new story. But you're probably right, she doesn't have anything at all to learn at this point. Nope.

*EDIT*

To give another way of saying "Just 'cause she did something one time, doesn't mean she's an expert at it." I personally have done several moves, instinctively that are Parkour moves. This was years before anyone used the word, and possibly even knew what parkour meant. Or even freerunning. But when I was younger, and athletic, I could easily do several of the moves I've seen trained professionals do. The fact that I instinctively pulled off a handful of moves, doesn't in ANY way mean that I was/am a parkour expert, or that I didn't have things to learn from a trainer on the subject.

 

[boag]

Fortunately, this story has a happy ending- Rey will be added this year

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/star-wars-monopoly-game-to-add-piece-based-on-rey-after-8-year-olds-note/article28056819/

Dunno why they would limit themselves to four game pieces. Doesn't most Monopoly games come with 6 pieces?

Probably Board Game DLC

 

[Gronk]

The "we didn't want to spoil things" is just utter BS. What really happened is someone at Hasbro figured that the Star wars target audience (mostly males) Would buy less of a product if it contained a girl-figure, than if it contained four males. Simple as that. You can see the same thing with how Disney marketed the movie "tangled", by making the trailers appear as if Flynn was the main character, since they thought boys wouldn't want to see a film with a female lead character.

Why this is a problem? Because the decision to simply ignore the female audience and their wish to have figures of both sexes is just stupid and non-progressive. If the Star Wars target audience is so stupid that they base their purchases solely on the fact that there needs to be only male figures in it, they need to be educated and fostered into a more modern way of thinking.

Rey is NOT a secondary character, so ANY decision to leave her out of the merchandising is a sign of something very very Wrong. But then, looking at the reactions to the decision to stop producing Leia toys with the golden bikini, I'm not surprised.

 

[Pinkilicious]

You think Disney would've learned from the Black Widow merchandising thing but they didn't even need that lesson. Rey is the main character, hands down. She is Luke Skywalker for the new trilogy. How do you not merchandise your main character? Thats like Robocop merchandise not containing Robocop. Thats like Alien merchandise not containing xenomorphs. Thats like merchandising Metroid and Kirby and only producing Space Pirates and Waddle Dees. Its like making Pokemon merchandise and having it all be of the human characters. This is a special kind of stupidity. Its pretty clear that a person involved in making this decision got to their position in the company not based on merit.

However, fans were quite dismayed to discover that titular character Rey

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Well who do you think is awakening in the film? It isn't the beeping soccer ball.

Was apparently Hasbro's call behind this. Sadly, as a fan of MLP, I am more than familiar with their QA 'quality.'
Sure, it's better than most non-transformers toylines, but I believe that's only because internal fans have ascended possibly, and not a result of criticism. Many stores here would get blind bags during season 1 and 2 miscoloured, with the wrong cutie mark, or even 'bald!' (mane was not painted, ie still colour of body)
The brushables would also sometimes come in bald, but girls didn't mind as they're planning to make customs anyway
They should really just put out a line of bald white or grey ponies for just such a thing, the way they do for that celeb pony makeover panel at MLPcon, where celebs and artists are given blank jumbo g3 ponies to go wild on.
Much of Hasbro unfortunately runs on the "Rubber Stamp Principle" and so it's easy for something like this to fall past.
Add in that Disney wanted Rey kept a secret until the trailers, they likely simply didn't look at the memo it was ok now

 

[Pinkilicious]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

No.
She was established right from the start to be a capable fighter, she gets jumped by a gang and by the time Fin got anywhere close enough she had already dispatched of them.
She doesn't get the force stuff right the first try, there is an entire cool and hilarious scene in which she tries to get the Jedi Mind Trick right, failing the first couple times. Her first instances of using the force are all accidental and more like automatic reactions, kinda how a talented person might learn of their talent.
The endfight with Kylo Ren, after Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, Chewbacca goes mental and starts shooting, one of his shots hits Ren in the stomach. Before this the movie reminds everyone of hiw powerful his bowcaster is.
Ren is severely wounded before he fights Rey. When Rey first uses the lightsaber she first fights with it as if it was her staff but changes her style after noticing that that's not the right way ti use it.
That's why she's a great character, she's capable and grows on screen, we actually get to see her potential.

So, given everything she can do already, what exactly can she grow into? Is episode 8 gonna have her using the force to throw a moon on Darth Linkin Park? Will Episode 9 end with her blowing up the sun of the system Snoke is in with her mind and declaring herself the God Empress of Mankind?

Seriously, where can she go from here? The only realy story she has is who her parents are and why she was left on planet NotTattooine.

Where can she go from here? Lern to use her force powers maybe? Seriously, don't comment on something you haven't seen.

I HAVE seen it. She worked out force pull, the mind trick, and how to rip info out of someone's head in a matter of hours. The heck is she gonna learn at this point? With how easily all this comes to her, Episode 8 might as well start a week after episode 7 ended with Luke telling her there's nothing left to learn.

WHAT? Come on! Isn't it obvious?
(actually, that's a likely possibility since EU is non-canon now, that they want to make a new Starkiller)
(also don't forget that the Clone Wars series is still canon, meaning Mace Windu was equally as powerful)
I also wouldn't be surprised if this is a sort of Gundam-original-trilogy style characterisation thing.
Anakin(Kamille) was the most powerful, but couldn't control his emotions, and paid for it in the end.
Luke(Amuro) struggled to get where he was, but avoided becoming his father by giving into his emotions.
So Rey(Judau) is going to become the "balance" in between the two extremes.

 

[Azrael the Cat]

So I have a question: Who in the hell made Abrams an authority on this matter? He directed one film in the series. One. He's not even involved in any of the other films. So why are people regarding this loon as an authority on the merchandising arm of the company? It would be like grabbing some system operator at a bank and asking about investment opportunities.

Mostly because it gives some people justification to get up in arms over something incredibly minor because without it they know that their incredibly boring character they love so much and are heaping so much praise on is largely the most unpopular(maybe just least popular) thing in the new movie.

Now, I'm going to say that I haven't seen it, and I probably won't until it comes out of theaters, but considering the comparisons being made are other main women characters that are largely the least interesting ones in the story they appear in, I'm just going to guess it's much the same with Rey. Largely overhyped, over-praised, and incredibly under-used in the actual narrative(from what I've heard, maybe she'll get her ass handed to her and she'll actually have to try in the next movie or two).

Yeah, you maybe shouldn't comment on a character you haven't seen yet, because she's great. She's not the best character ever, but she's in no way underused or anything. She gets her ass beat, but beats right back, if it weren't for the ground splitting she would have killed Kylo Ren. She's what Luke would have been in a New Hope, had be grown up on the streets left to fend for himself before the plot started.

So basically pretty much what people are largely complaining about her? They've built up Ren so much that "the ground splitting open" is the only thing that makes her on the level of the villain they've been hyping up for the better part of two years? You don't see how that's a bit of a problem when they've got two more movies? They're gonna have to pull some serious writer-fu to establish Ren as a threat considering that or come up with a completely new villain that can replace him that isn't just a cardboard cut-out. Or at least give me a damn good reason why Rey can do so much shit perfectly on the first try.

And again, I'm basing this on people comparing her to other over-hyped women characters of the last few years more than anything else, Jessica Jones is good, but it's not because of Ritter despite her taking up something like 80% of the screentime. Furiosa's ok, but I'm honestly still more interested in Max because he's sorta been one of those things my family brought me up on, yet everyone is fixated on her and the flamethrower guitar that largely just felt out of place in the world. Sky in Shield having her power level and control bounce back and forth as the plot demands it instead of having something somewhat consistent when they've done so well with all the other characters.

The characters are ok, but are MASSIVELY overy-praised for what they do compared to alot of other female characters that aren't directly connected to a geek franchise therefore are barely watched by alot of the people on these forums except to sneer at.

What you're missing is that Kylo Ren is quite specifically NOT made out to be an established bad guy at the peak of his powers. He's a fledgling with no real training, who is embarking on a 'villains journey' at the same time that Rey is having her 'heroes journey'.

I.e. Kylo is going to learn and get stronger over the course of the films, just like Rey. There will be points at which he overtakes her, points at which she overtakes him, and there might even be some swapping of sides (last part is speculation obviously, but they've set it up so that Kylo is getting 'tempted by the peace of the light side' just as Rey is getting 'tempted by the power of the dark side').

 

[mrdude2010]

It's because 8 year old boys don't want to play with girl dolls.