James Gunn is back to direct GOTG Vol 3!

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Sonmi said:
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Actually, they weren't racist. That's part of the context I mention. When you hear the full context it's not racist but if you lack it it comes off as such which is why I allowed for their interpretation as bad jokes.

Still, in context they were fine.

Anyhow, this is kinda off topic, just go watch her Rogan podcast on youtube for more details~
I did watch her on Rogan, I don't buy her excuses.

Also, it would be important to compare the public reaction to the jokes in question. People were genuinely shocked by Roseann's comments, enough for her own castmates to refuse to defend her publicly, the controversy was organic. On the other hand, no one but the politically motivated cared about the Gunn thing, which was, I'll remind you, a directed ideological attempt at causing a fuss.
I have no reason not to buy her excuses since she's kinda done it sounded like and kinda took the blame without fighting to protect the jobs of the people working on her show. Also she's just kinda nuts (if you saw the podcast you know) so I don't expect too much coherence out of her.

I just don't see hatred anywhere, jokes being edgy is a normal thing for comedians to do.

If you think hating on Roseanne who was tweeting about trump and who knows what else for years wasn't done by people already politically primed against her I dunno what to tell you lol.

People were shocked cause they're easy to shock and cause it was convenient to be shocked in that timing cause she gave them the excuse they were seeking to get rid of her with and cause some just lacked the context and were tricked by the mass hysteria. They fired her so reflexively that they didn't even have time to get that context. If we use twitter outrage as a measure of offense we're screwed lol. I'd rather use normal logic instead.
 

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So these articles are now being reported:
https://www.nme.com/news/film/disney-never-looked-for-a-replacement-after-james-gunn-was-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-2463448

To be fair Disney has not confirmed them yet, but come on. It was all just a PR ploy. They had to look like they were going along with the outrage, and then waited a few months and just brought him back.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't ever actually 'fired', they just let that story be told, he was never off the project, and now they're just announcing he's been 'rehired'
 

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Silentpony said:
So these articles are now being reported:
https://www.nme.com/news/film/disney-never-looked-for-a-replacement-after-james-gunn-was-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-2463448

To be fair Disney has not confirmed them yet, but come on. It was all just a PR ploy. They had to look like they were going along with the outrage, and then waited a few months and just brought him back.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't ever actually 'fired', they just let that story be told, he was never off the project, and now they're just announcing he's been 'rehired'
So the PR ploy was to piss off a majority of the fanbase by firing a well loved director and letting him go make a movie for DC while still apparently being on their payroll? That is either the stupidest PR move Disney ever made, or more likely it's BS. It would be Jussie Smollet levels of idiocy if not.

If they weren't actively looking for a director in the eight months following, it was likely because his termination caused a lot of confusion on what even to do with the next Guardians, on top of being busy with other projects like Captain Marvel, Endgame, and the next Spider-Man. I mean, they weren't even sure initially whether they would still use his script, so likely they were prepared to put Guardians 3 on the back burner till they had things figured out.
 
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Silentpony said:
So these articles are now being reported:
https://www.nme.com/news/film/disney-never-looked-for-a-replacement-after-james-gunn-was-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-2463448

To be fair Disney has not confirmed them yet, but come on. It was all just a PR ploy. They had to look like they were going along with the outrage, and then waited a few months and just brought him back.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't ever actually 'fired', they just let that story be told, he was never off the project, and now they're just announcing he's been 'rehired'
Did Disney plan Gunn directing The Suicide Squad, too?
 

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MrCalavera said:
Silentpony said:
So these articles are now being reported:
https://www.nme.com/news/film/disney-never-looked-for-a-replacement-after-james-gunn-was-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-2463448

To be fair Disney has not confirmed them yet, but come on. It was all just a PR ploy. They had to look like they were going along with the outrage, and then waited a few months and just brought him back.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't ever actually 'fired', they just let that story be told, he was never off the project, and now they're just announcing he's been 'rehired'
Did Disney plan Gunn directing The Suicide Squad, too?
Why would they care? Its DC's cinematic universe, its what, 1/5? Maybe 1.5 if you include Aquaman? DC and Marvel may have been comic book publishing rivals 30 years ago, but these are movies we're talking about. DC is nothing compared to Marvel. Disney could give DC James Gunn, Chris Evans, RDJ and Chris Pratt for Suicide Squad, it's make a cool $500Million, meanwhile Marvel is set to get over a billion for their next 5 movies.
James Gunn didn't go work for the enemy, he was tutoring that mentally challenged kid after school.
 

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Silentpony said:
Why would they care? Its DC's cinematic universe, its what, 1/5? Maybe 1.5 if you include Aquaman? DC and Marvel may have been comic book publishing rivals 30 years ago, but these are movies we're talking about. DC is nothing compared to Marvel. Disney could give DC James Gunn, Chris Evans, RDJ and Chris Pratt for Suicide Squad, it's make a cool $500Million, meanwhile Marvel is set to get over a billion for their next 5 movies.
James Gunn didn't go work for the enemy, he was tutoring that mentally challenged kid after school.
Spin it however you want, Disney/Marvel would never let one of their most important directors, the one who was (is) in charge of the cosmic side of the MCU, just take a break and go make a movie and produce another for a different company. Unless ofcourse he was actually fired and was never meant to return.

And to bring Smollet in this again, you know how baffling dumb that trick he pulled was, and how he instantly became ostracized once people found out? How fast do you think goodwill and enthusiasm for the next Guardians would dry up once people found out Gunn getting fired and then rehired was all staged by Disney and Gunn? Disney might by a souless conglomerate, but they wouldn't be stupid enough to do that.
 

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Silentpony said:
MrCalavera said:
Silentpony said:
So these articles are now being reported:
https://www.nme.com/news/film/disney-never-looked-for-a-replacement-after-james-gunn-was-fired-from-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-2463448

To be fair Disney has not confirmed them yet, but come on. It was all just a PR ploy. They had to look like they were going along with the outrage, and then waited a few months and just brought him back.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't ever actually 'fired', they just let that story be told, he was never off the project, and now they're just announcing he's been 'rehired'
Did Disney plan Gunn directing The Suicide Squad, too?
Why would they care? Its DC's cinematic universe, its what, 1/5? Maybe 1.5 if you include Aquaman? DC and Marvel may have been comic book publishing rivals 30 years ago, but these are movies we're talking about. DC is nothing compared to Marvel. Disney could give DC James Gunn, Chris Evans, RDJ and Chris Pratt for Suicide Squad, it's make a cool $500Million, meanwhile Marvel is set to get over a billion for their next 5 movies.
James Gunn didn't go work for the enemy, he was tutoring that mentally challenged kid after school.
4.5 actually if you actually look at the money these movies pulled in (which is more than the MCU when they started out) and DVD sales. Hell, Suicide Squad pulled in around 750 million without a China release and stayed number one for three weeks in a row.

The only thing I'd agree is Gunn wasn't working for the enemy and that's because the directors and cast members aren't as petty about these things as fans are. Hell, Gunn's actually stated he likes MoS.