Japanese Fire Fighters tell families "We won't be coming home"

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Tdc2182

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Wabblefish said:
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gigastar said:
Strangely if that happened in any other developed country, health and safety would have them in sraight jackets and on horse tranquilisers while they let the reactors meltdown.

Oh well, true patriotism is a willing to die for ones country and those guys are doing it. Respected.
They aren't just saving Japan.

They are literally trying to help rescue the planet. The radiation is expected to hit our shores very soon.
I agree with you totally, saving radiation from hitting the west coast of the US saves the planet. Also the whole of Escapist is from the US.
Why the fuck does everyone seem to think I am a self obsessed American as of late? This was literally a harmless comment, and you are the second person to unreasonably take it out of context.

I was using an example. Sometimes is is used to help reinforce a point.

I could say very many nasty things here, but apparently the Escapist has a policy to point the finger at me no matter the amount of other idiots involved.
 

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Ruwrak said:
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Ruwrak said:
If any culture on this world has a sense of discipline and selfsacrifice, it's the japanese.
You need to re-read my post and see that I am praising those men. Yes, I did take the entire japanese people as a whole there. And that is based on a long standing history of discipline, both mentally and physically. If you think I am cheapening the actions of these men, you need to rethink what I wrote.

You will come to the realisation I am not only praising the men in the reactor. I am also praising the men that search for survivors, hand out food, offer shelter to the homeless and all the other people that are working to rebuild and help out where they can. And if you say that is bad, then you are saying something very wrong there.

Think about how skewed your remark is about the discipline of the japanese people. You would be saying that only the fireman have duty, love and discipline. And that would be wrong. I hope you see that.

And I'm not going to argue with you about who is wrong or who is right, I just want to show you that you're leaving out some other good people who work hard by saying what you said.
If that's the case, we're both in agreement. I thought you were remarking about japanese people exclusively while I was trying remark on the resolve of all people involved(inclusively),since not all of those involved in the efforts are Japanese,just people from different backgrounds with a common goal.
 

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You know, after spending most of the time hearing about all the terribly things we humans have done to ourselves, each other, and the environment, it is truly inspirational to hear about the utter selflessness of these people. Makes me choke up a little.
 

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Acting like a FOOL said:
Ruwrak said:
Acting like a FOOL said:
Ruwrak said:
If any culture on this world has a sense of discipline and selfsacrifice, it's the japanese.
You need to re-read my post and see that I am praising those men. Yes, I did take the entire japanese people as a whole there. And that is based on a long standing history of discipline, both mentally and physically. If you think I am cheapening the actions of these men, you need to rethink what I wrote.

You will come to the realisation I am not only praising the men in the reactor. I am also praising the men that search for survivors, hand out food, offer shelter to the homeless and all the other people that are working to rebuild and help out where they can. And if you say that is bad, then you are saying something very wrong there.

Think about how skewed your remark is about the discipline of the japanese people. You would be saying that only the fireman have duty, love and discipline. And that would be wrong. I hope you see that.

And I'm not going to argue with you about who is wrong or who is right, I just want to show you that you're leaving out some other good people who work hard by saying what you said.
If that's the case, we're both in agreement. I thought you were remarking about japanese people exclusively while I was trying remark on the resolve of all people involved(inclusively),since not all of those involved in the efforts are Japanese,just people from different backgrounds with a common goal.
That is exactly the logic I wished to present in a single statement :3


dfphetteplace said:
Ruwrak said:
If any culture on this world has a sense of discipline and selfsacrifice, it's the japanese.
While I don't disagree, this seems to be a quality of firefighters every where.
It's a calling, not a profession I sometimes think, juding by the way they (generally when entering a burning building & do their job without hesitation.) do their job :)
 

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God bless them, I don't know how many people would be willing to put their lives down for the greater good, I hope we all would but these men and women have proven it.
 

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Thats one of the most noble things I've ever heard. Giving ones life so that others may live is the deepest, most commendable, and most respectable sacrifice there is. My heart goes out to those people.

On that note, this is the 21st century. How is it that if a nuclear reactor starts overheating, this is our last resort? Shouldn't we have some plan besides "hose it down while firefighters die of radiation poisoning"?
 

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PureIrony said:
Thats one of the most noble things I've ever heard. Giving ones life so that others may live is the deepest, most commendable, and most respectable sacrifice there is. My heart goes out to those people.

On that note, this is the 21st century. How is it that if a nuclear reactor starts overheating, this is our last resort? Shouldn't we have some plan besides "hose it down while firefighters die of radiation poisoning"?
Actually the last resort is hosing down with unmanned vehicles and trying to get power set up to each of the generators so they can run their own cooling systems. No one has gotten radiation sickness yet and the JSDF and Tepco keep pulling back every time anything potentially dangerous happens. The story is a fabrication. But there are still brave people dealing with a very serious issue, just none have died or gotten radiation poisoning.
 

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This is something truly amazing and shows that there is still strong morals and a since of national pride that these people will die for their country and their people though mostly the people.I can only pray for these men and send more money to Japan these men are true heroes.
 

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What brave people. Practically, ti may be worthless to them, but I hope for the best.

They say that hope is the atheist's prayer. I've always held that prayer, being pretty much useless, should be reserved for the final minute. Only after everything else that you can possibly do is done, after it is utterly taken out of your hands, when you sit down and just wait... that's the time for hoping.

So, am I praying for them? Yes. Yes I am, dammit.

I just wish that they could know. I'm sure that they do, one way or another.
 

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NIPPON BANZAI! NIPPON BANZAI! NIPPON BANZAI!

While every firefighter is a hero this reaches a different level you don't hear about as often. Not only are they risking their lives, they've been told that their chances of making it out of this unscathed are virtually nothing. I can only imagine what is going through their minds, actually no I can't. I just can't even comprehend it. These people are among those who transcend what can be defined as self sacrifice. My heart goes out to the families of these brave people and I salute the with the highest of honors.

They have also for a period of time cured my cynicism about humanity. After reading about people saying this was payback for Pearl Harbor and the Minister of Japan saying that it was divine retribution I was seriously just sick of humanity. Then these men come along and show us the pinnacle of humanity, the peak of our kindness and nobility.