Japans death row makes prisoners go insane

[Mcface]

You are all one bad mistake, one crazy situation, one wrong place wrong time, one passionate moment away from a life behind bars.

Yeah, but my mistake is leaving my soda on the hood roof of my car, or swearing infront of my grandmother.

NOT killing somebody.
I think you need a better understanding of REAL LIFE.

 

[HT_Black]

Wow...their death row is less efficient than America's...is that even possible? Why can't people just make like Thailand...?

 

[Darkmark44]

Those Japanese people... they make me laugh so much.

Well, they are just wasting space and money with having people on death row for so long... I think it would be easier to just gas the whole death row.

 

[The Rockerfly]

While I do agree with the 99% conviction rate and how prisions are actually making prisoners feel like prisoners, surely keeping death row inmates for 10's of years is babaric? Also expenisve to keep alive, what a waste of money!

That's basically what China does, they shoot the fucker in the head, then send the bullet casing, along with a bill for the bullet, to their family. It's a good system.

I like this idea so much it hurts
Seriously why isn't that used for everywhere that uses the death sentance?

 

[Le_Lisra]

"There are 2-3 exercise periods in a week other wise they have to remain sseated in their cells."

Gods. My inner physiotherapist screams.
Im against death penalty, period. But if it is inevitable then at least don't let them sit there 10 years. What fuck kind of punishment is that? Then they could just as well do away with death penalty and give them a life sentence, a much better idea. If you want to execute them - do the fuck so.

But then again the whole concept of prisons needs to be re-thought. Everyone read Foucault!

As for the people who say they deserve it.. I have nothing but contempt for you.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Yeah, but my mistake is leaving my soda on the hood roof of my car, or swearing infront of my grandmother.

NOT killing somebody.
I think you need a better understanding of REAL LIFE.

Did you just ignore the other stuff he wrote?

As for killing somebody, you could definetly do that. All men and women are potential killers, it's just a matter of incentive. Some people take to killing rather swiftly. Others need to be pushed harder and in different ways. But anyone can kill, even by mistake...

 

[AdambotLive]

I don't know what's taking them so damn long to just execute them.

 

[Sarukin]

Death row [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8247319.stm] prisoners in Japan are being driven towards insanity by harsh conditions, according to human rights group Amnesty International.

Apparently many of the prisoners are now old men having been kept in isolation for decades. There are 2-3 exercise periods in a week other wise they have to remain sseated in their cells. Prisoners are not allowed to walk around their cell. They are not allowed to talk to other inmates. You are given about an hours notice when its time for execution which amnesty feel is cruel. The combination of these factors drives most of the inmates insane.

So are these conditions cruel? Does it really matter if you are killing them anyway? Why are executions taking up to 40 years to be carried out?

Your thoughts.

Damn Straight! At least they know how to treat they're criminals, let them rot for years to make them learn their lesson then kill them with no impunity.

The Japanese have got the punishment system right.

 

[Le_Lisra]

Well people on Death Row have generally done something awful. The majority of first-degree murderers still just get a lengthy sentence. These people, in their crimes, have done something sickening and repulsive, something that defies nature, something inhuman and therefore are treated as such by the Japanese, who have a firm tradition of honour. Murderers are not honourable people, and honour practically defines Japanese culture.

Well.

Murder is, as George Carlin once observed, a unique human (or at least humanoid) feature. It may be against "nature", but certainly not against our nature. We kill other humans for personal gain that has nothing to do with survival. And only we do that. Rethink your statement. It is not inhuman, it is intensely human.
This does not mean, however, that it is acceptable. Far from it, because we are now a society based lifeform. But that does also mean that we as a whole must subscribe to the same ideals. If an individual isn't allowed to kill, no one is. If someone is indeed mad enough to be a constant danger - and I have yet to read about someone who was born a serial killer- then locking them up is better. Yes, it is expensive and takes up room. But it shows that WE as a society do not sink to their level. If that is too much to ask, a swift execution and proper treatment beforehand is essential (what that exactly might be is open for debate..).

As a society/state you shouldn't torture. You shouldn't kill. You should give chances. And if they are not taken, be swift and not cruel.

Why is that so hard to see?

(sorry, this turned a bit into a general comment on the subject)

 

[Xvito]

Well... I don't really like death-penalties to begin with. Hell, I don't even like the idea of penalties.

So, torture and death-penalty isn't exactly my idea of "fair-game"...

 

[SilentHunter7]

Well, as a civilized society, we're not supposed to put our prisoners through the kind of hell 40 years of isolation will give you. We don't torture rapists and murderers, even though they might have done the same to innocent people, simply because we won't stoop to their level, and become the thing we despise. We all know that we're fucking better than they are.

Spoiler

They deserve it?

They're on death row, the deserve punishment, not rehabilitation. However when something like this threatens other country's thoughts on the ethics of aforementioned nation, it's a different issue altogether.

I call it punishment and relief. Making them go through that, then putting them at rest. Doesn't seem too bad to me.

Amnesty international are stupid. You can't have human rights for killers!!!

That's like having shoes for someone with no legs!!!!

I say we nuke 'em again.

They shouldn't kill them, they should let scientists do tests on them so they can better understand the effects of isolation on the human mind.

Well, my guess is if they did something to earn a death scentence, they deserve it.

Pretty much exactly, yeah.

"OH NOES GUYS MURDERERS AND RAPISTS ARE BEING TREATED BADLY!"
"HOLY SHIT LET'S ALL GET INTO THE CAREMOBILE"
Fuck that. If you commit a bunch of atrocities and you don't even have the intelligence to escape the police, you don't deserve a roomy jail cell with cushy toilet seats and 24/7 access to hookers or whatever the fuck.

Or not.

 

[Baby Tea]

I just don't get why people are up in arms about this. I'm sure the whole point of prison is to make you suffer the punishment of your crimes. Insanity is suffering, is it not?

Uhh, prison isn't merely 'punishment'. It's also meant to serve as a place for people to be rehabilitated to be able to return to normal society without committing more crimes. It serves two purposes. Now in this case, since it's death row and these men will not be getting out, I still think that prolonging the execution in such horrid conditions is an unnecessarily cruel method of imprisonment (Aside from the fact that I totally disagree with the death penalty in the first place).

All convicts are guilty, period. Otherwise they wouldn't be convicts, now would they?

Well that's a hilariously generalized statement. Tell that to the innocent who were/are wrongly imprisoned.
Does it happen everyday? Certainly not, but it happens.

 

[Xaositect]

Nice to see a country with the balls to treat certain humans as the scum they so often are.

Hearing about "Human rights" always makes me laugh when so many people arent worth the shit on someones shoe.

Its "cruel" to do this? Cruelty should be mandatory if youve done enough to be on death row for crying out loud.

I actually object to the killing of heinous criminals. This is the kind of life they should be forced to lead. Commonplace sensory depravation, mock executions and all in all a life of misery so that when you finally are too much of a burden to keep any longer, youll gladly face your execution and be doing yourself and everyone else a favour.

 

[PatrickXD]

Well, I actually think it's a GOOD idea... Death can be such a quick escapen for them. Living with no human contact for 40 years, now THAT is what I call a suiting punishment. Leaves time for them to 'think about what they have done' and who cares if they go insane... Maybe that just makes the final kill that much more interesting?

 

[GonzoGamer]

What's more barbaric is the manner in which they are executed:
painful, humiliating, and involving a lot of tentacles.
NOT for children:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWcqwljQdpk

 

[Kriptonite]

....I...er, wasn't...serious.

Perhaps not. But just look at some of the responses in this thread! Many have written responses pretty similar to yours, and I don't find it to be very likely that all of them are just kidding around.

So it's a viable question, don't you agree?

Isn't it a bit scary that so many people seem to have such blind faith in the legal system?

Heh, this is quite apparent. You must admit however, that some people, no matter what the subject have some crazy ideas. No matter what.