Japans death row makes prisoners go insane

[Kriptonite]

40 years? I think someone should stand up in court and shoot the convicted in the head as soon as the judge sentences them to death.

Really? What kind of evidence should the judge demand then before being allowed to sentence someone to death?

The same amount as it is now? : )

....I...er, wasn't...serious.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

....I...er, wasn't...serious.

Perhaps not. But just look at some of the responses in this thread! Many have written responses pretty similar to yours, and I don't find it to be very likely that all of them are just kidding around.

So it's a viable question, don't you agree?

Isn't it a bit scary that so many people seem to have such blind faith in the legal system?

 

[MajoraPersona]

It may have, there weren't really scientists before then.

 

[bjj hero]

Personally I just think people who get on death row should get shot right away.

Why? Well I just don't see a point in keeping them alive and have them waste our money.

As for this. I honestly don't care. They knew fully well what they did and they deserve this in some way.

People are wrongly convicted so keeping them alive incase you're wrong seems a good enough reason to me.

There will always be evil people but if you keep letting them out it isn't gonna make things better. Most criminals too re do their crime and most of the time it's on the very same day they are released.

Where is your source for your statement that "most" criminals repeat their crime on release day? I'm calling BS on that one.

(Seeing as we're discussing the death penalty) Most killers only ever kill once, serial killers are few and far between. Under the right circumstances nearly everyone could kill someone. Doesn't make you a serial killer.

The reason people are released on licence is to monitor their behaviour after release. Plenty of people complete their licence without reoffending.

Then look at the majority of the people who are CORRECTLY convicted. Sure the system is not perfect, but it's better than saying everyone's innocent and letting the f**king psychos run rampant...

It's not a one or the other situation. It's not kill them or let them leave the court with a machine gun. Last I checked prisons and secure hospitals were in place stopping "the f**king psychos run rampant..."

 

[EchetusXe]

What can I say? The Japanese like torturing people.

Don't kill people in Japan. In fact with a 99% conviction rate its probably safer just to avoid that whole island altogether.

 

[hypothetical fact]

Killing them is morally wrong. Putting them to good use in slave labour and medical experiments is right.

 

[Spacelord]

Inducing psychosis by long-term isolation is a fate worse than death. It is cruel and inhumane, and should be forbidden. Seriously: fuck the Japanese, those sick fucks.

 

[Spacelord]

I agree, Every death row inmate has the right to a speedy firing squad. But I sure as hell want to be 110% sure they are guilty...

That's the thing, you never are. In fact, statistically speaking there have been innocent people put to death in the US alone. Quite a few, at that. It therefore frightens me how many people in this thread just trust the system uncritically.

 

[Emeli]

Well I don't really support the death penalty, but I can respect where it's coming from. I can't respect mentally torturing people for decades before their sentence is carried out. It's one thing to kill a criminal, if nothing else it serves a purpose. The continual punishment of men who aren't being rehabilitated, who have no hope of seeing the outside world again and who are awaiting death that could come at any time is just sadism.

The entire point of the justice system is that it isn't vindictive. This is a peversion of justice.

And with a 99% criminal conviction rate, it's hard to believe that every man in there is even guilty of the crime he's being punished for.

 

[FROGGEman2]

Ugh...

Orgh...

I think I'm going to vomit...

30 years?

I mean...

30 YEARS OF NO HUMAN CONTACT.

This is just evil.

 

[Korey Von Doom]

You hippies wouldn't be saying the death penalty is cruel if it was your loved one...

 

[Vlane]

So let's say I killed three people (of course 2 children and a single mother) and I am in this situation.
I really want people to care about me and I hope the guards wake me up at 10 o'clock like I told them and that I want two sides of bacon with my toast. I also demand at least 5 hours of internet every day and two bottles of coca cola.

I don't care about death row inmates! They are in prison for a reason!

 

[Eisenfaust]

isn't one of the "advantages" of a capital punishment system over a life-imprisionment system that the institution/government or whatever doesn't have to use the resources to keep them alive? keeping them alive for 40 years and then killing seems a little strange from that point of view...

 

[Stalk3rchief]

Death row [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8247319.stm]

So are these conditions cruel? Does it really matter if you are killing them anyway? Why are executions taking up to 40 years to be carried out?

Your thoughts.

Having formerly (and sometimes still) worked in corrections I can say that's outragously overboard. How do you expect someone to not cause you any problems in that situation? What leverage do you have against them? Isolation is used as a punishment of those who break the rules within the faciliity. Not just because.

Oh, so you work on death row?
Because if you don't that would meen your experience in the justice system is 100% unrelated.

OT:
No one on death row is innocent.
I don't see how isolation is cruel, it's barely a step up.

In fact, my question is, my do people on deat hrow even get attention from rights activists when these men had their rights taken away.
That's what prison is.
This kind of makes me admire the Japanese people, at least they haven't gone soft on rapists and murderers like we have in the states.

 

[Syntax Error]

The xenophobia in this thread is quite surprising.

I just don't get why people are up in arms about this. I'm sure the whole point of prison is to make you suffer the punishment of your crimes. Insanity is suffering, is it not?

 

[Antzon]

Why should we care about the inmates. If they havent done anything wrong/bad they will not been in them anyways. Imagine your family is killed by a killer. Without death sentence they might prob get 20-40 years and come out still alive. I rather the government decapitate his head and poke them on sticks outside the jail so i can spit at him.

The more barbaric the sentence, the lower the crime rate. Take the Japanese occupation as an example. They decapitate those who stole on the spot. After several decapitation, locking of doors isnt nessassary. (Source : Japanese occupied Singapore.Though i really hate the war time Japs)

 

[Unknower]

All convicts are guilty, period. Otherwise they wouldn't be convicts, now would they?

Seriously though, I wonder how many dozens of millions would someone get as compensation after being in the cell for decades and then being proved innocent. Or would they just get a card which says "Oops! Sorry!" and a free ticket to a psychiatric hospital?

 

[SADASS]

I see at as this.

Seeing some the Japanese beliefs about their afterlife/etc, They want to kill much more than the prisoner's bodies, they want to break their very soul.

It also dosen't allow for any sort of "honour" in the prisoners deaths.

That being said, rules are rules. The big guys with big sticks say don't do this, then don't do it. Lest you want to face their punishments. If don't like it, find a bigger stick, then claim the top spot.