Japans death row makes prisoners go insane

[vfaulkon]

I agree with everything you said but, I don't know what your point is.

That you disagree with the death penalty?

You suggest they should just kill the innocent person anyway?

Please explain.

My point is twofold:

First, that the morally correct choice (which itself is subjective) is not necessarily the best one, and making moral compromises, while dangerous and should be done sparingly, is sometimes for the best;

Second, if you're going to condemn someone to death, don't dally around out of a lack of conviction and claim it's to 'ascertain their guilt'. One or two years while people look into the case, maybe even five, I can swing with that. But fifteen, twenty, FORTY years? Will anyone besides the criminal even care about or remember the case after that long? And if it's been that long and no one's come up with anything, shouldn't that be a big hint?

Think of it like going over your answers on a test. Going over your test once just to make sure you answered all the questions properly is often a wise decision, but if you start second- and third-guessing yourself, you're liable to either waste time and gain nothing while needlessly building up your own uncertainty or change answers from the right one to the wrong one.

When it comes to the death penalty, I believe that once sentenced, it should be carried out much sooner than the current process allows. Yes, miscarriages of justice may occur and probably will at some point, but...doesn't that happen already?!

The overall point is that no system is perfect and sometimes good people suffer and die while bad ones go free and unpunished, regardless of the legal system's rules. Ergo, once you have a system established, have the conviction to back it up with decisiveness. Otherwise, problems are bound to occur.

 

[Uncompetative]

I advocate voluntary elective euthanasia for all prisoners, not just those on death row.

In fact, you could get around the whole knotty issue of "inhumane executions" by just making all lifers held for full-life terms without visitors and buried within prison grounds. Sure, they can stick it out if they choose to repeatedly appeal, they may be innocent. However, by removing all of the fun of access to T.V. a pool table, an allotment, wood-working shop and a library they will eventually give up and make room for some fresh yet-to-be-deads.

 

[iJosh]

They probably deserve it. Running around with swords and shit, Can't be doing that crazy stuff now can we.

It is cruel though. Just be like, "Hey, Imma let you get back at being insane but ahh, You r goin 2 die in a hour!!"

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Wait, what? Locking someone up with only their certain death to look forward to can make them go insane?...never would have thought.

 

[Buffoon]

Few things depress me more than average, normal forum posters calling for brutal retribution to be enacted upon people about whose crimes, lives and circumstances they know practically nothing.

It's sad enough that some people commit horrific crimes. But I find it just as sad knowing how many people gleefully demand savage reprisals. It's not good for humanity. Causing suffering will not change anything, the desire to cause suffering will only turn you into a lesser person.

And for all those who believe that somehow some huge, uncrossable void exists between 'good' and 'evil', between 'you' and 'the bad man', I would suggest that line is a lot easier to cross than you might think.

 

[tehroc]

Perhaps their methods of deterence aren't threatening enough? Perhaps they should publicly threaten all criminals that they will send their souls to hell after death and torture them there too? XD

Conservative America would eat that up and ask for seconds.

I'm troubled by this thread, too many posters thirst for bloodshed. Ready to strip anyone of their humanity because of a label. Where does it stop, death row inmates, all criminals, different political parties and so on?

I fail to see how anyone can gain remorse through insanity?

 

[CouchCommando]

meh, bleeding heart groups don't carry much weight with me. Jail an unfortunate necessary evil of society, as for corporal punishment, courts still out on that one. Personally for real sick offenses id have public flogging followed by an execution by guillotine, and sell tickets and pop corn, I'm kinda right wing. Also you wouldn't put a death row inmate in general pop for precisely the reason they have nothing to lose and you have a duty of care to the other inmates duh.

 

[Squarez]

I advocate voluntary elective euthanasia for all prisoners, not just those on death row.

In fact, you could get around the whole knotty issue of "inhumane executions" by just making all lifers held for full-life terms without visitors and buried within prison grounds. Sure, they can stick it out if they choose to repeatedly appeal, they may be innocent. However, by removing all of the fun of access to T.V. a pool table, an allotment, wood-working shop and a library they will eventually give up and make room for some fresh yet-to-be-deads.

Depressed tax dodger anyone?

 

[Zefar]

I wouldn't argue executing someone who is guilty of a serious crime as good or evil. It's the punishment chosen by (some) societies. Executing the innocent is evil. It's cold blooded murder.

Which I have said that I don't really care about. Getting the majority will still do a better thing for the people.
I dunno how many people are so unlucky that they are the one who happen to be the wrong guy at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Please don't reference TV. FOX news maybe? More places isn't the best either. I do wonder how many criminals you have canvased to decide they think differently. You have probably met more criminals than you know. Most dont have "criminal" tattooed on them. As I said before, lots of people complete their licences without reoffending. Others reoffend and are dealt with, others start displaying risky behaviour and are returned to prison before reoffending.

Thats completely different than:

Most criminals too re do their crime and most of the time it's on the very same day they are released

Wait so if I'm not allowed to use TV and no I don't watch Fox, what SHOULD I use?
I can't user other sources either for some unknown reason.

Yet YOU are able to use pretty much anything you want without a second problem. What sources do you use? God?

Beside I have seen documentaries about these things.

Yes I might have meet criminals but they might only have been thieves or people who rape others.
I doubt I have met THAT many killers as I live in Sweden.

Also note that it's only the one who murder someone that I wanna punish this harshly. Not the thieves or rapist. Even thou rapist kinda deserve a big punishment too.

Btw did your offenders where those light ones? Like robbery, stealing, breaking things and so on?

 

[bjj hero]

Wait so if I'm not allowed to use TV and no I don't watch Fox, what SHOULD I use?
I can't user other sources either for some unknown reason.

Yet YOU are able to use pretty much anything you want without a second problem. What sources do you use? God?

Beside I have seen documentaries about these things.

Yes I might have meet criminals but they might only have been thieves or people who rape others.
I doubt I have met THAT many killers as I live in Sweden.

Also note that it's only the one who murder someone that I wanna punish this harshly. Not the thieves or rapist. Even thou rapist kinda deserve a big punishment too.

Btw did your offenders where those light ones? Like robbery, stealing, breaking things and so on?

I saw it on TV is often no better than I read it in the tabloids. Documentaries can be better but there is a lot of scare mongering that goes on as that gets viewers. For example, lots and lots of females are worried about being attatcked, as are large protions of the elderly population. These attacks tend to make the news etc. The group most likely to be victims of violence in the UK? Males age 15 to 25. Its about perceptions, women and the elderly feel more vulnerable to violence.

I happen to work with offenders, both in and out of prison through my career, often the higher risk offenders so I get to read a lot of the reseach and best practice guidelines etc. Most killers, the group you singled out are not likely to kill a second time. Serial killers are a rare breed. Most people have one good killing in them under the right circumstances.

You'll find that the people who tend to go on to commit serious further offences when released from prison under supervision tend to be the ones assessed as low or medium risk. It's normally the ones you didn't expect to do it.