Jewish court sentences dog to death by stoning

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thethingthatlurks

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lacktheknack said:
thethingthatlurks said:
And shit like this is the reason why I oppose all religions. Even if 99.9% of all practitioners of a given religion are perfectly sane, well functioning members of society, the remaining 0.9% tend to be this sort of raving lunatic. Religion is used way too often as a justification for abhorrent and insane behavior, so why not outlaw it? You won't find atheists in this day and age who would order children to stone a dog for some reason that defies all common sense. Perhaps a padded cell is in order here?
Actually, raving lunatic atheists would (they do exist). You basically said "our raving lunatics are better than your raving lunatics", to which I can only lolwut.

Anyways, the court seems like a decent padded cell unto itself. This bizarre story hasn't affected YOU at all.
Alright, name 'em. I'd be happy to concede that point if you can point somebody out who is even as remotely insane as the rabbi in question.
I also have to agree with you: the "my nutjobs are less insane than your nutjobs" is a terrible line of argument. I hope that's not the impression I made, though I guess calling for the outlawing of religion appears extreme in itself...

Cakes said:
henritje said:
thethingthatlurks said:
And shit like this is the reason why I oppose all religions. Even if 99.9% of all practitioners of a given religion are perfectly sane, well functioning members of society, the remaining 0.9% tend to be this sort of raving lunatic. Religion is used way too often as a justification for abhorrent and insane behavior, so why not outlaw it? You won't find atheists in this day and age who would order children to stone a dog for some reason that defies all common sense. Perhaps a padded cell is in order here?
The story is almost complete bullshit, but good luck violating basic human rights anyway.
Education is also a basic human right, which groups like the rabbi's court in question tend to ignore. Don't like my opinion of religion? Fine, but I will always and quite vociferously proclaim this: I'd rather deny all the right to religious expression than to have a single person mentally enslaved, abused, neglected, tormented, or stifled by such a barbaric and vacuous institution.

Also, dearest Microsoft: Your obnoxious ads have convinced me to never buy your bloody phone. Just want to point that out...
 

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lostzombies.com said:
Nice to see logic and intelligence is still alive an well in the highest parts of society in the Middle East...
I wouldn't call a powerless self-appointed "court" that need feckless children to do their bidding in any way "the highest part of society", this is just a clubhouse for prima donnas to be pedantic over religious interpretations of the scripture and with way too much mysticism as well.

I mean if a bunch of my friends talk in lofty legal/clerical terms called ourselves a court... that's not quite what most people think of when it comes to "a court".
 

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Cakes said:
thethingthatlurks said:
And shit like this is the reason why I oppose all religions. Even if 99.9% of all practitioners of a given religion are perfectly sane, well functioning members of society, the remaining 0.9% tend to be this sort of raving lunatic. Religion is used way too often as a justification for abhorrent and insane behavior, so why not outlaw it? You won't find atheists in this day and age who would order children to stone a dog for some reason that defies all common sense. Perhaps a padded cell is in order here?
The story is almost complete bullshit, but good luck violating basic human rights anyway.
Religion isn't a basic human right. Basically the only "human" rights we have is to hunt, fuck protect ourselves and our young. Everything else are rights of being a part of a society. Yet I agree with Lurks Religion is a basically a source to all problems even with a majority of people that practice it are "normal". Who do we notice through all the normal its a batshit crazy fuckers that abuse the name of the religion or their own means. Those people make all the other people that practice it look bad leading to blind hatred, war and poor dogs getting rocks tossed at it.
 

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thethingthatlurks said:
Education is also a basic human right, which groups like the rabbi's court in question tend to ignore.
Right to education is not a warrant to attack "ignorance".

In other words, you cannot stop people learning about evolution and reproduction, but you also can't stop them going to school on Sunday (or Friday or Saturday, whatever Sabbath day). People in private have the right to indulge their fancies and beliefs as long as no one gets hurt.

The point is they people should to the opportunity to make up their own mind, to square what they have been told about the universe by different groups an interpret things different ways. Like can they be a Christian yet not believe in the literal truth of the bible, and treat God more as a metaphor. Or give it up completely.

The law should not intervene unless what is being taught is so seditious and destructive that there there can be no thought or balance, like white-power rallies actively calling for murder.

That is where you draw the line of what people can and cannot hear. And it's not unprecedented considering the principal of the crime of conspiracy, that principal applies not just in a private discussion but also in large group announcements/speeches/decrees.

This court has obviously gone too far, they thought no one would care about a dog, they may not have thought anyone would listen to them, but animal cruelty laws I think exist even in Israel.
 

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We are all going to be feeling very silly when the dog manages to get out of the stoning by using a complex legal loophole... that only the deceased lawyer knew would work.

Then it's fast track to Hollywood. [JEWISH NAME], DOG ATTORNEY.
 

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What the hell. What. The Hell.

You didn't need to stone it. Put it to sleep if it matters.

And they did it because he insulted the court? Really?
 

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i seriously doubt the authenticity of this story for several reasons:
1. The Jewish faith does not recognize reincarnation theory.
2. Dogs were considered protector animals due to the role dogs had in warning Jewish slaves of approaching Egyptian guards.
3. This association with dogs is one of many excuses radical Islam has for hating the Jews, as in Islam dogs are unclean.
 

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The Random One said:
We are all going to be feeling very silly when the dog manages to get out of the stoning by using a complex legal loophole... that only the deceased lawyer knew would work.

Then it's fast track to Hollywood. [JEWISH NAME], DOG ATTORNEY.
Ah sitcom logic will you ever fail us.

But seriously; stoning an animal to death, including humans, is one of the most inhumane and drawn out ways to execute someone. Even lawyers don't deserve that.

Anyone who approves of it is obviously barbaric and backward. Enough said. There are plenty of other ways they could have killed the creepy dog if needed. It's even more disturbing that they got local children to do it. Seriously?

Nieroshai said:
i seriously doubt the authenticity of this story for several reasons:
1. The Jewish faith does not recognize reincarnation theory.
I did wonder about that...
 

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Wow ok, I had to read the title several times because at first I thought it said count instead of court. Made no sense lol.

OT: This is just ridiculous, I just can't possibly understand any of it. Even if the dog IS the lawyer reincarnated, how in the hell can anyone prove it?
 

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lostzombies.com said:
"It was ordered... as an appropriate way to 'get back at' the spirit which entered the poor dog," the paper reported the manager as saying, according to Ynet."
Poor bloody dog xD The appropriate way is to just let it go xD Dog hasn't done anything, leave it alone. Crazy Mid-Eastern Lawyers! You're suppose to be the sensible people among the masses xD
 

Marik2

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LOL I wish someone came up to them and said

He who is without sin may cast the first stone

ba dum tish :p
 

thecoreyhlltt

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lostzombies.com said:
AoGenius said:
Also, while I'm not praising what the religious extremists are doing here, I think it's quite different, quite very very different, than what Islamic extremists do in the rest of the world.
Yes, yes I'm sorry; your religious extremists are much nicer than any other religious extremists. It's not a popularity contest dude, there is no million dollar recording contract for the winner of X Factor-Religious Nutjob 2011.
haha, that's hilarious man.
 

thecoreyhlltt

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the dog was later quoted as saying, "whaaat? all i wanted was to borrow a shekel"

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