I think, unfortunately, this sort of video only speaks to the choir and is unlikely to manage any converts.templar1138a said:
Jimquisition: I Hate Videogames (Because I Love Them)
- Thread starter Jimothy Sterling
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Technically its not their biased against ps3 since PC is also getting it. It's their biased FOR microsoft's money.Kitsune Hunter said:
So much truth pouring from this video...
the sad thing is that you actually have to spell it out for people, considering what a basic and simple concept it is:
You're allowed, nay, encouraged to criticise what you love.
I just recently had a discussion with a friend that on the internet (though not exclusively), you aren't allowed to sit on the fence. That you HAVE to choose a side and shun the other, no matter how much common sense dictates that this practice is FUCKING STUPID.
the sad thing is that you actually have to spell it out for people, considering what a basic and simple concept it is:
You're allowed, nay, encouraged to criticise what you love.
I just recently had a discussion with a friend that on the internet (though not exclusively), you aren't allowed to sit on the fence. That you HAVE to choose a side and shun the other, no matter how much common sense dictates that this practice is FUCKING STUPID.
I've been saying this for a while, and it's nice to see someone make a video about this train of thought.
I bought SSX new because the online pass wasn't needed to play. I bought ME3 used with a free online pass I got from a friend because of the opposite practice. I'd like to think I can steer companies in ways I want by using my money as a carrot. You make your games in a way I like, and I give you a sale. If you don't, I'll fuck you over.
Same with Ubisoft. I bought Rayman Origins and Lumines for the Vita because they were awesome games, and I still might down the line get the latest Driver game because I really liked how it played. However, I refuse to buy ANYTHING Ubisoft makes for the PC because of their hideous online DRM practices. Bethesda's games I buy years later for cheap and only on the PC because it's only the modding community that makes their games playable, sometimes literally.
Again, you don't have to boycott an entire goddamn publisher because of what they do. Hell, boycotting EA or Activision is going to make you miss out on a lot of really good content. If you have that kind of dedication, then by all means. But don't have a cry and say you'll never buy anything from them, then break that promise a month later. Be selective... if a game was made with practices that you don't like, then don't buy it, but don't miss out on good games that were made with good intentions simply because you don't like the publisher.
Now if only I could do something to change a few other practices publishers are frequently using now through my wallet, but I don't see how I can. How do consumers change the practice of using MetaCritic or sales quotas to hold an IP hostage? Those are practices I really want to see die, but not sure how I can make a difference... which is a shame.
I bought SSX new because the online pass wasn't needed to play. I bought ME3 used with a free online pass I got from a friend because of the opposite practice. I'd like to think I can steer companies in ways I want by using my money as a carrot. You make your games in a way I like, and I give you a sale. If you don't, I'll fuck you over.
Same with Ubisoft. I bought Rayman Origins and Lumines for the Vita because they were awesome games, and I still might down the line get the latest Driver game because I really liked how it played. However, I refuse to buy ANYTHING Ubisoft makes for the PC because of their hideous online DRM practices. Bethesda's games I buy years later for cheap and only on the PC because it's only the modding community that makes their games playable, sometimes literally.
Again, you don't have to boycott an entire goddamn publisher because of what they do. Hell, boycotting EA or Activision is going to make you miss out on a lot of really good content. If you have that kind of dedication, then by all means. But don't have a cry and say you'll never buy anything from them, then break that promise a month later. Be selective... if a game was made with practices that you don't like, then don't buy it, but don't miss out on good games that were made with good intentions simply because you don't like the publisher.
Now if only I could do something to change a few other practices publishers are frequently using now through my wallet, but I don't see how I can. How do consumers change the practice of using MetaCritic or sales quotas to hold an IP hostage? Those are practices I really want to see die, but not sure how I can make a difference... which is a shame.
Funnily enough, I am more outspoken against games that I like than those that I don't. Those that I generally dislike I tend to just put out of my mind. Whereas the ones I like I normally criticise out of frustration of them not being as good as they could've potentially been.
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Who said that? I certainly didn't. I said their chicken tastes like hating gay people, and that the hating of gay people smells like fucking shit.Hatchet90 said:
I stand by that claim. It has been lab-tested.
Problem with some of Jim's statements is that they are wishful thinking. If publisher sees that all complaints about practices that it took to make more money do not result in diminishing income it will not stop using them because that will cripple the cash flow. If they listen to complaints about always online DRM, Day one DLC and similar practices and stop doing that their income will diminish. Product abandonment due to dissatisfaction caused by such practices, obviously, is not equal to potential losses from complainers. In other words, if they listen to demands they would, effectively, shoot themselves in foot.
That means, as long as you buy games, they will continue to do what they do because they would lose money doing otherwise.
That means, as long as you buy games, they will continue to do what they do because they would lose money doing otherwise.
Yes, this... Which is why I'm not buying EA games right now.Marohen said:
It does raise a question that I would hope Jim might answer in his next video. Obviously, Sterling has some modest pull as a professional critic, at least to the point that there's a chance someone at a major company might see one of his videos or read one of his articles, if perhaps not revise their policies based on Jim's views.
As a consumer, by the point I've told a company that I'm not buying their games and why, and followed through on that, and maybe vented about some of the more appalling aspects of their policies to my "friends" on Facebook, I've pretty much done everything I can to make them register my displeasure. Little as that is, I realize. What else am I going to do, start another useless, whiny internet petition? For their part, EA has all but posted a mission statement that reads "Scream louder, your suffering gives me warm fuzzies."
You may be right, but I've known this girl since middle school (twelve years ago). She used to hate my guts and tried to make my life miserable. The main reason I was able to tolerate her was because - unlike most of my other bullies - she actually had a brain. In fact, I viewed her as a challenge for my wit.Zachary Amaranth said:
We're friends now because she apologized for how she behaved. Unfortunately, I've since discovered that she doesn't use her brain like she used to. She has her head in the clouds, believing in manifestation and saying a bunch of crap that centers around counting her blessings. Honestly, I liked her better when she was trying to make my life hell. I hope I can convince her to start thinking again.
It always hurts most from those we love.
I totally agree. The way people seem to think you can't have mixed feelings about stuff is ridiculous. I was once called a Minecraft fanboy and berated for it on Youtube for a reason I can't even remember. I said one positive thing about the game and then when I got attacked for liking something I replied by explaining how I don't even play the game that much, yet I was somehow still a mindless sheep worth insulting endlessly. But it was on Youtube, so fuck that retard.
Also, "Namcy Banders". Hilarious. Although I didn't really like Enslaved much. It was okay. I had some fun with it and it had it's good points, but I think when I played it at the time I was trying to convince myself it was better than it was because of Andy Serkis. But I later looked back at it and realised how fucking retarded and crap the story was, and how the gameplay wasn't so brilliant either.
I totally agree. The way people seem to think you can't have mixed feelings about stuff is ridiculous. I was once called a Minecraft fanboy and berated for it on Youtube for a reason I can't even remember. I said one positive thing about the game and then when I got attacked for liking something I replied by explaining how I don't even play the game that much, yet I was somehow still a mindless sheep worth insulting endlessly. But it was on Youtube, so fuck that retard.
Also, "Namcy Banders". Hilarious. Although I didn't really like Enslaved much. It was okay. I had some fun with it and it had it's good points, but I think when I played it at the time I was trying to convince myself it was better than it was because of Andy Serkis. But I later looked back at it and realised how fucking retarded and crap the story was, and how the gameplay wasn't so brilliant either.
They are against homosexual couples being allowed to benefit from the advantages of being married. Eg spousal medical benefits, insurance, etc.Hatchet90 said:
Bigot : a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own
Sounds pretty accurate.
Sry Jim he is right.carnex said:
Stop buying games is the only way to stop EA, Activision and Ubisoft.
Ubisoft even hacks into your browser, evidently.
Stop supporting those companies, do not buy their games.
Thats the only way to beat them,
if you Jim really love video games,
say that people shall stop buying them.
There just is no other way.
with regards
Crap. As much as I don't want to agree... I do. Jim is right on with this video, but the only thing these companies listen to is $$$ and there is no way to buy HALF a game... or is there?balberoy said:
Used games?
While I will admit that the PS3 has its problems such the excrutiating long download times for patches and firmware updates and its occasional falling out with my internet. But the XMB has never really bothered me that much.
It's Bioshock Infinite.zmin said:
As for this discussion, I love video games but I know nothing is perfect. Am I really a bad person if I don't mind putting up with crap just so I can play the games that I want or am I just as bad as a publisher because I let it happen to me?