Jimquisition: Mass Effect 3: A Gay Erotic Love Story

[Something Amyss]

hell...its not the same as actually "acting" in real life as a gay person..it just seems like a non-issue, why would he care?

To be fair, did you see how far the two male leads from Brokeback went in terms of trying to assure the world they weren't really gay?

Hell, even Ian McKellan, who is openly gay, has previously discussed how it's kind of the kiss of death in Hollywood.

Is it in voice acting? No idea, but I wouldn't be shocked. For a business supposedly loaded with homosexuals, there's a lot of people calling "NO HOMO" a lot.

 

[Fappy]

How many takes did that take? Bravo for doing it all in one shot!

 

[secretsantaone]

Would the Day 1 dlc have been in the main game if Bioware didn't feel they had to put a gay romance in?

No, because the intent to have a collector's edition bonus was there from before the game was completed. I can't believe people are even suggesting that.

Well would that have been in and some other DLC be released at launch instead?

 

[jovack22]

That's rape, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply being attracted to another of the same sex, how one acts based on that has nothing to do with homosexuality itself, but rather the individuals past experiences.

And why not, what's wrong with a phallus?

You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

I hope you understand that sexual crimes are largely committed by straight people.

Not because straight people are more likely to be deviants, but because the percentage of straight is larger than gay, where I'm willing to wager the percentage of sex criminals is probably roughly similar.

 

[Something Amyss]

I made it trough 2 Dragon Age games without catching the Gay (although, that Alistair was rather charming...) so I think I can handle ME3.

Actually, surprised by how many prudes there are in current generation of gamers.

That's how they get you!

Sure, DAO and DA2 seemed harmless enough. That was to get you to let your guard down. ME3 is where they're going to drop the other shoe!

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!

I was winged by ME fever, so I ended up bisexual. You might not last!

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I am not particulary trilled by a gay shepard, my problem is that it feels like retconning.

Realizing I'm cutting your whole rant just to bash on this one staement but I have to. This is a BS argument for several reasons.
1. A lot of people will START at ME3, and a game should, while taking it's legacy in account, try and be a stand alone work. Anyone starting at 3 have no history to "betray" by playing GayShep
2. You can play ME1 and 2 with the intention of being GayShep, but not finding a suitable partner.
RPG options 4 the win.
3. People come out as gay in every period of their lives. He could have been in the closet or just bi-sexual untill now. Again, roleplay.
4 I can play as the SAME Sheppard but with different faces and different personality in all three games. They let me fuck up my own history if I want to, why on earth would that freedome not be extended to sexuality.
5 it's a friggin OPTION! If it messes with YOUR Sheppard, he can be as straight as you want to. I wanna give it to Garrus up the arse, why would you care if I do that?

Well if we accomodatd your Shepard then what about the people that want to be able to bugger livestock with their Shepard? Are they not as important as the gay crowd? What about the people out there that want a pedo Shepard? Do we accommodate them too and maybe throw a couple little boys on the ship? These are all just options after all.

One: Gays are a fairly significant percentage of the population. Two: Those things you mentioned are ILLEGAL.

Hey those are just options. They wouldn't affect your Shepard. You dont like em don't use em. As for being illega, well we illegal things in games all the time so I fail to see how that's relevant. What you and those like you are really saying though isn't let's be open minded and accommodate all sorts of different people but rather simply just to accommodate you and those like you while everyone else can piss off.

Homosexuality is not the same as pedophilia and bestiality due to their non-consensual nature. Your point is moot. Morally it's similar to the reason we can't officially kill children or torture animals in games.

 

[Something Amyss]

Well would that have been in and some other DLC be released at launch instead?

And we're getting further down the rabbit hole.

Does Occam's Razor mean anything to you?

How many takes did that take? Bravo for doing it all in one shot!

It was easy. Homosexuality in video games is serious business.

You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

Can you name one instance where being homosexual has directly caused the homosexual in question to commit a crime?

 

[Xanthious]

-snip-

Well, you compared your toon in a game being gay with him being a pedophile, didn't you? let me see... ohh, way to edit your post. Gratz.

The only thing I've been arguing is that my Shepard should get the same rights yours does. And if special occomodations are being made forone alternate lifestyle then occomodations should be made for other alternate lifestyles. If you want your Shepard to bone dudes and I want mine to bone goats why can't both of us be occomodated?

As for editing my posts. Fella Im writing these from a touch screen phone with a shitty on screen keyboard. Editing for content is not a luxury I enjoy.

 

[Drewmeister11]

That was disgusting, disturbing, and totally inappropriate.

*clicks replay*

 

[Arkynomicon]

I made it trough 2 Dragon Age games without catching the Gay (although, that Alistair was rather charming...) so I think I can handle ME3.

Actually, surprised by how many prudes there are in current generation of gamers.

That's how they get you!

Sure, DAO and DA2 seemed harmless enough. That was to get you to let your guard down. ME3 is where they're going to drop the other shoe!

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!

I was winged by ME fever, so I ended up bisexual. You might not last!

Eh, I'm not afraid. I think I can handle this.

Come to think of it. Zevran was rather charming as well.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

That's rape, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply being attracted to another of the same sex, how one acts based on that has nothing to do with homosexuality itself, but rather the individuals past experiences.

And why not, what's wrong with a phallus?

You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

I hope you understand that sexual crimes are largely committed by straight people.

Not because straight people are more likely to be deviants, but because the percentage of straight is larger than gay, where I'm willing to wager the percentage of sex criminals is probably roughly similar.

I do realize that, which is why I would never say that heterosexuality has never harmed anybody, because obviously it has. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I'm saying that heterosexuality/homosexuality=sexual crimes, it just means that a persons sexual desire/lust/preference has hurt a few people.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo, lemme get this straight, Jim and Yahtzee can cus like sailors and the thing is fine with that, but an the mere mention of homosexuality it age gates the fucking thing?

Real mature, seems that this world still has a long way to go.

I think it was more that slash erotica that the entire video consisted of, more than the fact that it was gay. It was pretty obscene, after all.

OT: Making your point sarcastically as always, Jim, well done.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

-snip-

Well, you compared your toon in a game being gay with him being a pedophile, didn't you? let me see... ohh, way to edit your post. Gratz.

The only thing I've been arguing is that my Shepard should get the same rights yours does. And if special occomodations are being made forone alternate lifestyle then occomodations should be made for other alternate lifestyles. If you want your Shepard to bone dudes and I want mine to bone goats why can't both of us be occomodated?

As for editing my posts. Fella Im writing these from a touch screen phone with a shitty on screen keyboard. Editing for content is not a luxury I enjoy.

You are being totally unreasonable about your comparison. It's like me saying 'bananas are like planets'. Homosexuality and bestiality are completely different things and are unrelated in any possible way due to their consensual and non consensual nature...

 

[ResonanceSD]

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo, lemme get this straight, Jim and Yahtzee can cus like sailors and the thing is fine with that, but an the mere mention of homosexuality it age gates the fucking thing?

Real mature, seems that this world still has a long way to go.

As for the actual episode...what the flying fuck was that?

Lol, try acting like Yahtzee or Jim in the forums, I reckon a user would last about a day before they got suspended.

 

[Xanthious]

I am not particulary trilled by a gay shepard, my problem is that it feels like retconning.

Realizing I'm cutting your whole rant just to bash on this one staement but I have to. This is a BS argument for several reasons.
1. A lot of people will START at ME3, and a game should, while taking it's legacy in account, try and be a stand alone work. Anyone starting at 3 have no history to "betray" by playing GayShep
2. You can play ME1 and 2 with the intention of being GayShep, but not finding a suitable partner.
RPG options 4 the win.
3. People come out as gay in every period of their lives. He could have been in the closet or just bi-sexual untill now. Again, roleplay.
4 I can play as the SAME Sheppard but with different faces and different personality in all three games. They let me fuck up my own history if I want to, why on earth would that freedome not be extended to sexuality.
5 it's a friggin OPTION! If it messes with YOUR Sheppard, he can be as straight as you want to. I wanna give it to Garrus up the arse, why would you care if I do that?

Well if we accomodatd your Shepard then what about the people that want to be able to bugger livestock with their Shepard? Are they not as important as the gay crowd? What about the people out there that want a pedo Shepard? Do we accommodate them too and maybe throw a couple little boys on the ship? These are all just options after all.

One: Gays are a fairly significant percentage of the population. Two: Those things you mentioned are ILLEGAL.

Hey those are just options. They wouldn't affect your Shepard. You dont like em don't use em. As for being illega, well we illegal things in games all the time so I fail to see how that's relevant. What you and those like you are really saying though isn't let's be open minded and accommodate all sorts of different people but rather simply just to accommodate you and those like you while everyone else can piss off.

Homosexuality is not the same as pedophilia and bestiality due to their non-consensual nature. Your point is moot. Morally it's similar to the reason we can't officially kill children or torture animals in games.

In a game they are exactly the same. Just ones and zeros. In reality there may be but in a game all that changes is the pixels. Again, why does one minority group deserve special treatment over any other. I say accommodate em all.

 

[K_Dub]

You know it's funny. I just pre-ordered ME3 earlier today. Didn't feel to gay. But looking at my pre-order receipt now, I have to admit. I'm slightly excited to do the gay sex to Garrus!

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I am not particulary trilled by a gay shepard, my problem is that it feels like retconning.

Realizing I'm cutting your whole rant just to bash on this one staement but I have to. This is a BS argument for several reasons.
1. A lot of people will START at ME3, and a game should, while taking it's legacy in account, try and be a stand alone work. Anyone starting at 3 have no history to "betray" by playing GayShep
2. You can play ME1 and 2 with the intention of being GayShep, but not finding a suitable partner.
RPG options 4 the win.
3. People come out as gay in every period of their lives. He could have been in the closet or just bi-sexual untill now. Again, roleplay.
4 I can play as the SAME Sheppard but with different faces and different personality in all three games. They let me fuck up my own history if I want to, why on earth would that freedome not be extended to sexuality.
5 it's a friggin OPTION! If it messes with YOUR Sheppard, he can be as straight as you want to. I wanna give it to Garrus up the arse, why would you care if I do that?

Well if we accomodatd your Shepard then what about the people that want to be able to bugger livestock with their Shepard? Are they not as important as the gay crowd? What about the people out there that want a pedo Shepard? Do we accommodate them too and maybe throw a couple little boys on the ship? These are all just options after all.

One: Gays are a fairly significant percentage of the population. Two: Those things you mentioned are ILLEGAL.

Hey those are just options. They wouldn't affect your Shepard. You dont like em don't use em. As for being illega, well we illegal things in games all the time so I fail to see how that's relevant. What you and those like you are really saying though isn't let's be open minded and accommodate all sorts of different people but rather simply just to accommodate you and those like you while everyone else can piss off.

Homosexuality is not the same as pedophilia and bestiality due to their non-consensual nature. Your point is moot. Morally it's similar to the reason we can't officially kill children or torture animals in games.

In a game they are exactly the same. Just ones and zeros. In reality there may be but in a game all that changes is the pixels. Again, why does one minority group deserve special treatment over any other. I say accommodate em all.

No they aren't, otherwise there wouldn't be rules about putting such things in games. It isn't illegal to show homosexuality.

 

[Avatar Roku]

That's rape, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply being attracted to another of the same sex, how one acts based on that has nothing to do with homosexuality itself, but rather the individuals past experiences.

And why not, what's wrong with a phallus?

You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

bi?

I didn't make a comment about the option for being gay, I made a comment about a sweeping generalization.

well you seem to have a problem with the whole thing

Foot fetishists are fairly common too, do we need a foot sex scene?

Damn it! Stop with the fetish suggestions or you will get me banned from this forums!

Also for me is like having a vegetarian dish in the menu, I will probably skip it because buying veggies in a fine restaurant is for suckers, but always nice to see it.

Not if it comes at the expense of a poorer quality game.

for fucks sake...its not going to ruin the game...in previous games you could bang aliens now if that didnt ruin the game (which surprise surprise it didnt) then I dont see how shepard having a 30 second scene with another man is going to ruin the game

Because it's not a 30 second scene. It's a series of dialogue trees, written scenarios, coding, animations, voice acting and testing, all of which takes up a lot of development time. Development time which could have been spent adding more content or improving on existing content.

Add into that the excuses Bioware will have to write up due to not making any mention of it in the previous 2 games, the possibilities of falsely initiating it just by being friendly ala DA2 and the obvious pandering to knee-jerk accusations of homophobia, it all seems more trouble than it's worth. Does the gay community now feel vindicated because a virtual character can stick it up a guys arse?

Would the Day 1 dlc have been in the main game if Bioware didn't feel they had to put a gay romance in?

But it's ok to have all those things for Heterosexual couples?

That's rape, not homosexuality. Homosexuality is simply being attracted to another of the same sex, how one acts based on that has nothing to do with homosexuality itself, but rather the individuals past experiences.

And why not, what's wrong with a phallus?

You made a sweeping generalization that homosexuality has never hurt anybody, I called bs because it has(i.e. people have committed crimes because of it). Now I'm not saying that all homosexuals are bad people(because their not) just that it is ignorant of you to say that no homosexual has ever hurt anybody because their homosexual.

I hope you understand that sexual crimes are largely committed by straight people.

Not because straight people are more likely to be deviants, but because the percentage of straight is larger than gay, where I'm willing to wager the percentage of sex criminals is probably roughly similar.

I do realize that, which is why I would never say that heterosexuality has never harmed anybody, because obviously it has. Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I'm saying that heterosexuality/homosexuality=sexual crimes, it just means that a persons sexual desire/lust/preference has hurt a few people.

Would you say the same of a straight person? i.e, that their heterosexuality caused them to commit a crime?

 

[00slash00]

this was the most hilarious episode ive seen in a long time. i look forward to buying your book from amazon.

i was on the fence about mass effect 3, but now im sold

 

[Rainboq]

Good point, unless you happen to be bisexual/pansexual/omnisexual.

Yeah, well, it's something that i know i should do, like going to the dentist, fighting in a bar and jumping off a plane. And while there has been here and there (throught the years) offers of both casual gay sex and casual straight sex i have only taken the latter.

I know man on man would be a new experience, i know i love trying new experiences, but doing a guy or getting done by one is hasn't been attractive so far. Maybe someday I'll meet a gay/bi guy who will change my mind... but starting to doubt it.

That's just entropy, and it sounds like a dash of social pressures as well. But really, you really shouldn't feel forced to do anything.
Also

Your arguing over symantics now.

No, he is saying gay assholes don't do fucked up shit due being gays, but due being assholes, same as straight assholes don't ruffie girls due being straight.

It's not him, though. It's Shepard.

It's still his image, and he should have final say over that. Actually if Bioware really want this option in the first game, why not just get a model that was ok with it?

And he has it, no one is going to pound your straight Shep ass if you don't want it to happen. As for modding the previous games? Because they are cheap, if they modded all the games before to include a gay shep from the beggining i wouldn't mind the retcon so much.[/quote]Thanks for defending that, the support means a lot to me!