Jimquisition: Mass Effect 3 And The Case For A Gay Shepard

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

Funny thing really, I saw very little gamers objecting to same-sex relationships when it was girl-on-girl action in the previous games.

And yes, Asari are females. It says so in their ingame codex entry, specifically stating they are sexually female. Sure, Liara says her race makes no differences between male and female. But is it any surprise that a mono-gendered has no real concept of gender divides? Liara also says she is not a woman. Of course not, because woman is the word for a human female, which Liara isn't. As a scientist, she is very likely to make such distinctions.

 

[ADDLibrarian]

Thank god for you Jim!
If anything, I think the scene is too damn tame for my yaoi fan girl tastes. As one poster said "Couldn't there at least be bodies underneath blankets making one fucking grunt?" I want more gay sex, dammit!

 

[Ryan Owens]

This hole ordeal seems very simmilar to playing the sims 1,2 or 3

you can have guy on guy relationships in the sims if you wish, but i never seen ppl complain about that the way they have about this

play your own game the way you want and dont bother others when they play it they way they want to

the options are there for everybody

x x

 

[zefiris]

Wonderful video, Oh Lord of the Jimquisition. I was laughing the entire way. Excellent writing for this episode.

attracted to members of the opposite sex and there's no evidence that we've ever managed to break that programming.

Actually, there is plenty of evidence that we have, and so did 450 different species including friggin penguins.

The issue is that your core assumption is false - we aren't only programmed to go for the opposite sex, other kinds of wiring exist, just rarely. It actually has an evolutionary advantage for a species to have homosexual members, and therefore, homosexuality is still around.

See gay penguins breeding eggs not of their own. They take care of children that may not be directly of their own gene pool, but of relatives, and therefore help smoothen out the survival of the species by jumping in when other parents die.

Behavior like this is actually not uncommon in nature. Many pack animals behave like this in general, as do ants (who do not have homosexual ants, mind you, but the general concept of not passing ones own genes, but instead taking care of a (distant) relative's genes to ensure smoother reproduction and thus advantage the species as a whole.

There's actually studies that show that having a homosexual relative will make a animal more likely to be healthy. Same goes for humans.

"we are hardwired to be straight" is simply not true. Nature tends to be quite a bit more diverse than we give it credit for. A population is not a strict number of clones, there are various mutations and variants in a population. And that's healthy for a population.

 

[Tuznecote]

I totally loved last weeks Jimquisition and totally got it. Sadly I knew that this is the internet and all 95% of the audience were going to do is laugh because you were talking about "gays" and "throbbing man muscles" and not actually get what you actually meant behind the whole story.

 

[theultimateend]

Surprised these things make it more than a couple pages of people saying "Old news, nobody is against you on this one."

I mean I get that there are a lot of bigots out there, I just didn't realize that they had learned to internet.

 

[biji-san]

This question's gonna come up sooner or later. Is Jim gay? I'm a gay man and never really got that feeling from him. But now I'm starting to see that he could be.

The Escapist staff already do great work on gay issues in games. But still it'd be great to get a real gay guys perspective on the site.

 

[Knight Templar]

Here's the thing for me, I played the Dragonses Ageesess (Light those are awkward to say) games, and I just did not like Anders. When I declined his advances I was annoyed, and pissed eventually, at my characters response. Which means I was taken out of my character by saying what I felt wasn't an appropriately friendly, "Sorry man, not interested."

What is so inappropriate about "I don't want you thinking of me that way"?

 

[turbosloth]

Considering the ending of this Jimquisition i think I will share my personal opinion.

Well now, I do have a problem with gay people. Aka they are sick in the head and whatever excuse medics came up in USA when they realized they can't cure them did not just made them normal... Look, curing schizophrenia is not easy either. If possible at all.

That said excuses debunked in this video are pathetic indeed.
And pedophilia and homosexuality are indeed vastly different things. That said, both are cases of mental disorder but vastly different ones.

But what's most important here is that developers, Bioware, don't owe anything to anyone. If they want to include whatever new content it is entirely up to them. Your only choice is to either buy their game or don't buy it. It's as simple as that. Attacking writers for example is childish and outrageous. You may disagree with them or consider their creation abysmal.. But the only thing you're entitled to is ability to skip their game and don't buy it.

Man, can I borrow your time machine?

Ok, so I haven't read EVERY post to check this, but I'm like 90% sure that there's no reason reading past here. Hookah Just won the thread.

And as someone else said, I'm definitely stealing this line. I salute you M'am/Sir.

 

[Falcondynamite]

I hope sir that was a new "toy", because if it wasn't, I don't think you'd like to know where that "thing" has been.
Good video, very enjoyable.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

What? I support homosexuality as equally as I do heterosexuality. In fact, I've dated MORE people of my own sex than the opposite.

Oh, sorry. Quoted the wrong guy. Awkward. Guess I'd better quote that homophobic asshole correctly this time.

Lolol. I was confused there.

Go get 'em, Tiger

 

[ZeroMachine]

Awesome funny video, great points. I wonder if shoving the rubber cock-bat in your mouth was necessary, but it made me go ha-ha none the less.

Trust me, it was necessary.

I really needed to do it.

I normally don't like your videos/some of your views/find you annoying, but I'll be DAMNED if I don't agree with every fuckin' word that came out of your mouth in this video.

Just... not the thing going IN to your mouth. XD

This honestly makes me more apt to watch more of your videos, just knowing that overall under the whining you're a good person.

 

[GenericAmerican]

I agree with Jim.

But having played through ME3 yesterday, they really really did shoehorn it in. Like much worse than the usual romance plots, I had to go out of my way to avoid homosexual relationships several times. *several times the dialog choice I picked ended up flirting with the npc when that wasn't my intention* Not to mention it brings several characters. . .out of character with some sappy piano music playing in the background.

Honestly, I don't think I like ME3, I liked 2 better, and I liked the first more than that.

 

[Strazdas]

While i agree with you completely, id like to correct a minor detail. female alternative to Shepherd in 1 and 2 doesn't count because technically, its not Sheppard to begin with.

 

[Kenji_03]

On a non-gay note, I am so happy Jim had the balls to put that thing in his mouth. (1) I couldn't stop laughing (2) it convinced me that Jim is totally comfortable with his sexuality.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Here's the thing for me, I played the Dragonses Ageesess (Light those are awkward to say) games, and I just did not like Anders. When I declined his advances I was annoyed, and pissed eventually, at my characters response. Which means I was taken out of my character by saying what I felt wasn't an appropriately friendly, "Sorry man, not interested."

What is so inappropriate about "I don't want you thinking of me that way"?

It implies that you think it is wrong for someone to think of you that way. I found the "I'm totally cool with you liking me, but I'm not interested." Zevran response to be much better.

 

[Knight Templar]

Here's the thing for me, I played the Dragonses Ageesess (Light those are awkward to say) games, and I just did not like Anders. When I declined his advances I was annoyed, and pissed eventually, at my characters response. Which means I was taken out of my character by saying what I felt wasn't an appropriately friendly, "Sorry man, not interested."

What is so inappropriate about "I don't want you thinking of me that way"?

It implies that you think it is wrong for someone to think of you that way. I found the "I'm totally cool with you liking me, but I'm not interested." Zevran response to be much better.

I had not considered it that way.
Yeah, that isn't the most tactful way to say you are not interested.

 

[scw55]

This is my opinion.

The introduction of the shuttle pilot's sexuality was done well. It wasn't explicitly. He simply mentioned his 'Husband died on blah planet'. It established his sexuality without conforming to stereotypes or shouting from the roof tops.

My only gripe is that out of all the possible sexed options, him and that annoying wooden-plank TV reporter were the first to, be involved with. It would have been nice if all options had a more... equal footing.

On the plus side, you must be a complete and utter idiot on auto pilot if you got involved with Steve against your will because your Paragon. Yes, all the 'I want to be in a relationship' options were on the top (where Paragon options tend to be), but you had a fair way to, explaining your stance. Unlike Anders where it's like kicking a puppy to say "Sorry I don't swing that way). I worry how negatively impacted their game experience was due to auto pilot nature as there are some serious decisions to be made which aren't clearly de-constructed to PARAGON RENEGADE.

The argument of the thinly veiled 'Lesbians are ok, gays aren't' is also destroyed by Kelly in ME2 being romancable by a woman.

On the plus side, at least Steve's sexuality wasn't ret-conned based on what gender you were when you fell out of your mother's uterus. (Dragon Age 2 reference). Kaiden being able to be gay/bisexual was a surprise, thought I didn't play much of ME1 and didn't actually like the character initially.