Jimquisition: Sexual Failing

[Aardvaarkman]

That's still the expectation as a rule though, dude. There aren't many women initiating contact and asking for a first date and paying for it.

What?

I don't think I've ever been on a date where the woman automatically expected me to pay for the meal. The most common etiquette I've seen is that you either split the bill, or one person offers to pay it. I've never seen anybody demanding that the other pay for the date.

 

[Uratoh]

I'm unclear. Does jim actually have a youtube channel now? I'd love to follow it. I sometimes have trouble picking up even his greasy, honey laden sarcasm.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Are you serious? There are actually people who take their "romantic" social cues from video games and genuinely believe that being nice to someone entitles them to sex? Seriously??? And I didn't think I could be surprised by people's stupidity anymore.

 

[krazykidd]

Why exactly would i want to talk and spend time with someone i'm sexually attracted if i'm not going to get sex? I'm serious. I could find plenty of guys to talk to and hang out with if i wanted platonic friendship . If i talk to a woman and spend time with her ( and especially if i buy her shit ) i'm going to expect sex at some point .

I do agree that this friedzone stuff is bullshit. Sure not every woman will want to sleep with me and that's okay . Once she says she's not interested, i say goodbye and move on.

"What? You mean my mom's not going to fuck me? Bye!"

That's a really healthy attitude you've got there. Only viewing half the population by their sexual value.

I did say someone i'm sexually attracted to. So mom wouldn't count.

Hey i'm being honest . If i just wanted friendship why wouldn't i just make guy friends with no expectation? It seems like it would make things less complicated .

 

[thisbymaster]

You want more depth in relationships? They have barely figured out how to make individual characters have depth and you want them also be able to grasp the depth between people as well? I think you are asking to much from people who can barely understand how people think let alone something as important as a relationship.

 

[thewatergamer]

Thank god for Jim his video sums my feeling on the matter perfectly

 

[JaceArveduin]

Does the friend zone exist if it's her telling you that's where you're stuck?

 

[thewatergamer]

Are you serious? There are actually people who take their "romantic" social cues from video games and genuinely believe that being nice to someone entitles them to sex? Seriously??? And I didn't think I could be surprised by people's stupidity anymore.

Believe me they exist...

and this is basically what the concept of a "friend zone" had devolved into for alot of people, to people like me a "friend zone" means that you geniuenly like the person and want to have a romance with them but they are just not into you that much and don't want to bother, it sucks for people like me who actually want a real romance,

however to alot of people thats actually what they believe, the "friend-zone" is what you get when a girl refuses to "put out" after he bought her 2 boxes of chocolates and gave her a few compliments...

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Are you serious? There are actually people who take their "romantic" social cues from video games and genuinely believe that being nice to someone entitles them to sex? Seriously??? And I didn't think I could be surprised by people's stupidity anymore.

Believe me they exist...

and this is basically what the concept of a "friend zone" had devolved into for alot of people, to people like me a "friend zone" means that you geniuenly like the person and want to have a romance with them but they are just not into you that much and don't want to bother, it sucks for people like me who actually want a real romance,

however to alot of people thats actually what they believe, the "friend-zone" is what you get when a girl refuses to "put out" after he bought her 2 boxes of chocolates and gave her a few compliments...

Yeah I always thought that "friend zone" meant that you genuinely were interested in a romantic relationship with someone, but they didn't see you as anything more than a friend, hence "friend" zone.

You'd have to be incredibly stupid to take romantic social cues from video games. That's like taking driving lessons from Jason Statham movies or The Fast and The Furious movies.

 

[Tyelcapilu]

Unless you want to have children sex is the only reason for a man to start a relationship with a woman (especially if he has to pay for the dates).

For some people, all you need is love.
Love is all you need.

 

[rbstewart7263]

Are you serious? There are actually people who take their "romantic" social cues from video games and genuinely believe that being nice to someone entitles them to sex? Seriously??? And I didn't think I could be surprised by people's stupidity anymore.

Believe me they exist...

and this is basically what the concept of a "friend zone" had devolved into for alot of people, to people like me a "friend zone" means that you geniuenly like the person and want to have a romance with them but they are just not into you that much and don't want to bother, it sucks for people like me who actually want a real romance,

however to alot of people thats actually what they believe, the "friend-zone" is what you get when a girl refuses to "put out" after he bought her 2 boxes of chocolates and gave her a few compliments...

this is true for me as well. I mentioned that I had gotten friend zoned to some friends and how it sucked. They just went on about people who say that are "those kinds of people who expect favors cause your nice" I dont expect anything but yeah it sucks in life when you really like someone and it dont work out.doesnt mean your a douche who expected sex kinda just means your human but due to semantics you get lumped in with assholes.

 

[AvangionQ]

For the relationships in Dragon Age, Mass Effect and other similar RPGs, I think my favorite sex scene was with Morrigan in DA1, because there was more to do with the character's development after the culmination. In Mass Effect 2 DLC, if you have a relationship with Liara, she just stands there repeating the same line and you can't even properly interact with the character. Sexual relationships in games are all well and good, but I'm hoping the next wave of games will understand there should be more to character development unlocking after sex.

 

[Nurb]

That's still the expectation as a rule though, dude. There aren't many women initiating contact and asking for a first date and paying for it.

What?

I don't think I've ever been on a date where the woman automatically expected me to pay for the meal. The most common etiquette I've seen is that you either split the bill, or one person offers to pay it. I've never seen anybody demanding that the other pay for the date.

When American women expect men to pay for everything the only way to start a relationship with them is to spend money on them.

Yup, that sure is "all American women"
It's like you got your world view from a bad 90's stand-up comic or something.

That's still the expectation as a rule though, dude. There aren't many women initiating contact and asking for a first date and paying for it.

I've never been on a 1st date with a woman where I had to pay for her. When I do pay for both of us, it's always implied that she'll pay for me later.

And did they ask you out for these first dates? That's sort of the main idea I was getting at.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

You missed the point too, as in women actually approaching to initiate contact and ask for a first date. Exceptions don't make the majority disappear.

How is that a point?

Many women do initiate first dates and pay for them. The assumed "majority" does not make it a rule. People are different. Pigeonholing all people based on some statistic is a futile proposition.

The majority of people I hang out with don't abide by your rules, and would actually be rather put off by them - so does that make your experience invalid because my "majority" disagrees with yours?

It's not an election we're talking about.

 

[Master_of_Oldskool]

I'm sure Jim was making a very good point while I was off in my happy place trying to ignore the image of him fucking Noel Fielding.

Seriously, that guy at the 5:15 mark is visibly Noel Fielding.

Why is Noel Fielding in Saint's Row IV? And why did Jim fuck Noel Fielding?

I mean, okay, I'd probably fuck Noel Fielding, but...

Actually, you know what? That's not a better image.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

And did they ask you out for these first dates? That's sort of the main idea I was getting at.

Yes. That majority of "dates" I've been out on have been at the woman's request. I generally don't go around asking women out, but have had plenty of them ask me.