Jimquisition: Solving the Sexism Situation
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I see several pages have passed, so sorry if you've been addressed several times on this already. But for my two cents, the big difference is comedic timing and delivery. Yahtzee was very strong in the beginning at placing his vulgarities at moments that emphasized the humour with punch. Although he's not been quite as strong as it in recent episodes, he still understands the concept and does what he can. Jim just throws swear words in there as filler in hopes that we laugh simply because he swore. It sounds strange, but even vulgarity takes skill to pull off effectively.Zing said:
Well, perhaps you do. I don't think that I've ever, consciously or unconsciously, made an assumption about the character of anonymous women. Even if I was in the practice of ascribing personality to anonymous women, I would still not be objectifying them as Jim suggests that I'm hardwired to do. If anything I would be giving them more personality.Levethian said:
I disagree, try spending a minute staring at a Playboy then spend a minute staring at a Playgirl. Unless you're happily bisexual I don't think you would come off feeling particularly horny. Even if you did feel that way, I'm sure that you would prefer staring at one magazine exclusively to both magazines.
Way to misquote me. My complete sentence was: "Jim's assertion that sex sells and therefore we should sell sex to both men and women simultaneously is a logical fallacy." I was never questioning the fact that sex sells, just that combining male and female quasi-nudity in a game is a profitable idea. Which it most certainly is not, you can't successfully pander to both sexes at the same time. In the future, please finish reading posts before responding to them.
Perhaps if you did something other than stand there with a bland background and lecture us on stuff we already know this would be more entertaining...
Hell, move back and forth a little bit, switch scenes, have someone else hold the camera and pan through the outdoors while you talk, ANYTHING. Your content will still suck, but at least it will be less noticeable and less painful to watch. I can never get through more than 30 seconds of this stuff without looking at something else on the screen, something on my desk, or facepalming. And I can NEVER get through 2 minutes period.
As for the content sucking, come up with some original ideas/controversy to go over that hasn't been discussed much. I know it's scary, but using your brain is a good thing. I'm trying very very hard to be as non-rude as possible here (not working out that well) while giving feedback on how to make a show vaguely worth watching.
If all else fails, STOP. Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200. You can always try another video series which does something different. Or maybe stick to writing stuff?
Hell, move back and forth a little bit, switch scenes, have someone else hold the camera and pan through the outdoors while you talk, ANYTHING. Your content will still suck, but at least it will be less noticeable and less painful to watch. I can never get through more than 30 seconds of this stuff without looking at something else on the screen, something on my desk, or facepalming. And I can NEVER get through 2 minutes period.
As for the content sucking, come up with some original ideas/controversy to go over that hasn't been discussed much. I know it's scary, but using your brain is a good thing. I'm trying very very hard to be as non-rude as possible here (not working out that well) while giving feedback on how to make a show vaguely worth watching.
If all else fails, STOP. Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200. You can always try another video series which does something different. Or maybe stick to writing stuff?
I can't read this because I'm not at the end of the game yet. But whatever you have said is wrong, GlaDOS rules! Wheatley Drools. OK.sergnb said:
I feel the same way. I don't want guys in chainmail speedos. I want everyone who's supposed to be out in combat wearing the proper gear for that situation. I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this, but a woman can still be sexually appealing with body armor on. And frankly, I'd feel a little insulted if game developers started overly sexualizing men to try and market their games to me. That's not why I buy games at all.lacktheknack said:
They are not bitching about the 'same shit.' Fox news complains about the sexualisation of women because it is a moral issue: they are offended by the naked bodies, and sexual content.Partezan said:
Extra credits complains about the presentation of women because games rarely show women in a full-formed developed way. The sexual representation isn't the problem; the lack of characterisation is.
In one case this is a moral issue: i.e. with fox news. In the other it is a gender issue.
Selling sex to women works, selling sex to men works, but selling sex to both at the same time doesn't work. You don't see a dude's bare ass in Barb Wire for the same reason you don't see a topless chick in Top Gun.wizzy555 said:
I kept wanting to raise problems in his arguements but kept stopping since I realised that I couldn't, he makes really good points.
At least he was pretending to be a televangelist this time rather than a standup comedian, that got a chuckle out of me.
More so than his choice of subject matter. Sexism in games? Wow, that hasn't been covered already by every other show and columnist on this entire site five times each. And I sincerely hope Jim doesn't think he's the first one to come up with this "solution."
More so than his choice of subject matter. Sexism in games? Wow, that hasn't been covered already by every other show and columnist on this entire site five times each. And I sincerely hope Jim doesn't think he's the first one to come up with this "solution."
I really don't think he is the appropriate spokesman for this kind of sexual enlightenment, not because of his appearance, but because he sucks at articulating his point. What I think he was trying to say is that the problem with the current portrayal of sex in games, and this is true of all media, is that it portrays men as the dominant gender. The solution is to make sex an activity of equals. empower women to play out their desires or or choose not to.
Content aside, does he really need the Nazi like imagery and color scheme? I'm not talking about his suit and tie that actually looks good on him. I'm talking about his opening credits, that flag behind him, and his podium. Also his mic was a little hot in a couple of spots and still no white balancing.
Content aside, does he really need the Nazi like imagery and color scheme? I'm not talking about his suit and tie that actually looks good on him. I'm talking about his opening credits, that flag behind him, and his podium. Also his mic was a little hot in a couple of spots and still no white balancing.