SkarKrow said:
ph0b0s123 said:
sindremaster said:
ph0b0s123 said:
One question on this whole thing. How does it affect sites etc outside of the US. I.e not a .com that US authorities think they own, wherever hosted, but .co.uk 's etc. I feel very sorry for people in the US if this is approved. I also understand that there will be an initial effect since most web content comes from the US. But if say Jim moves him, his show and it's hosting back to his native UK (from the accent), won't the show be back to normal?
If the US gov wants to turn the US into the Internet version of North Korean, then fine. I just don't see where 'this will kill the whole Internet' comes from. There are other countries in the world out there you know, where this legislation will not reach. Escapistmagazine.co.uk, youtube.co.uk FTW?
A lot of the audience from sites like the Escapist are American. If Americans can't enter these sites, they lose a lot of money and may have to shut down, even if they're not based in the US.
OK, so the US as a consumer market gets lost. I understand it is the biggest market. I just am not seeing the 'this will kill the whole internet'. That statement is a bit US centric, to me.
I see what you're saying, I do doubt this will kill the whole internet, far from it. But it's still an idiotic idea, I believe on his last video I said something about China? It's like something of fiction this LaLiLuLeLo thing, how any sane people could think it was a good idea I don't know...
Edit: I'd like to add to this that alot of internet content I like is based in the US, even though I'm not myself from the US, nor do I live there, nor have I ever paid a visit there; not just entertainment like this or the rather good playthrough of pokemon black/white I enjoyed today on Hellfirecomms because I had nothing better to do, but even things like FAQ's and fansites offering information on games, or walkthroughs, or trophchievement guides, could theoretically be gone because of this act. Not to be rude or deliberately offensive but realistically if you think because you arent american this wont affect you you're almost as stupid as the people who would vote it into law.
"Not to be rude or deliberately offensive but realistically if you think because you arent american this wont affect you you're almost as stupid as the people who would vote it into law."
This seems to be SOP around here:
Mis-read a comment made by someone else so that it seems like they are making a different point in opposition to your point of view, instead of the one they actually made.
Then make an insulting counter argument to the point you think they raised rather than the one they did.
Where in my post did I say you would see no effect from this stupid and ill thought out law change. In fact if you read it properly I stated there would definitely be an impact.
If you had read my comment above and subsequent comments properly, you would have seen that, I just don't buy the 'oh because this affects the internet for the US and the US is the center of everything, therefore this will kill things for everybody'.
This law passing will cause lots of change to the internet. My point was it just may not all be bad if it causes the Internet to become less US centric. Websites will close or move away from direct US gov control. The US will become an internet pariah and the world will move on. I don't want this to happen, but I do not believe this will be the end of the internet, just a case book study in one country failing to impose their will on a global system. Hopefully one of the last gasps of American imperialism.
The US is the single biggest market. But it is not bigger than the rest of the world put together. Also if you get your content from non-english sources, this bill on it's own, will not change much. But of course because the US speaks English there are no other languages making content of importance for the internet, right?
NinjaDeathSlap said:
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Did you hear? Apparently the US government is threatening European nations with crippling economic sanctions if they don't pass their own versions of SOPA. It's already worked with Spain. So yeah, that plan's not viable any more.
They are going to do this irrespective of whether SOPA gets shot down / gets ruled unconstitutional in the US or not. Everyone is already aware that US govs will push other countries to have more draconian laws than the US constitution would allow. US govs only care about US citizens having constitutional rights, they are quite happy to push for their removal elsewhere if it serve their or their corporate overlord's purposes.
I adore nearly all stuff about the US, it's citizen's and culture, just not most of it's foreign policy, of which it's recent pressure on the new, in hoc, Spanish gov is a case in point...
