Jimquisition: Xbox 360 and PS3 Are Just Very Crap PCs

[Verkula]

Oh yeah, i can connect controllers to my laptop, except most of them are pieces of crap, with shitty d-pads, that becomes more shittier after 1 month of using it. Of course theres always that driver for PS3 controllers i can use, but most of the games wont recognize it.
So yeah, PCs are pretty crappy consoles. So i just use it for whatever genres its good at and, while i just stick to other genres on consoles.
Also, i cant play any console exclusives on PCs can i? Ofc this goes the other way as well, which means the whole point of this video was to create a flamewar again.

 

[Vanitas likes Bubbles]

Im kind of late to the party, is the consolefag shitstorm here yet?

Totally not flame-bait

OT: I'd like to be a PC gamer but I lack the sufficient funds to be one. You could say to me "But you can buy one that runs games very cheap" but I'm one of those people that would say "If I can't run every game on ultra mega supreme settings what's the point?". I must have all the power.

 

[qeinar]

PC gamers care more about graphics and physics than the actual game....these things are not important. Making the graphics better with a mod dont make the game better. The game is what it is, the story etc can not be changed. Each to their own i guess. Just buy the games you love to play and you will be fine.

you are wrong there mate. ^^ some people do care about the graphics, but far from all. why do you think minecraft sold that well? why do you think most multiplayer games for pc still have players playing them? Also you were complaining about mods, now take a look at minecraft again.. have you seen the mods for that on the pc? have you taken a look at the new and popular mod for arma II dayz? i don't think the people playing dayz give a shit about the graphic.

Also "gaming" pcs are a lot cheaper now than they used to be since consoles are holding back graphics. ^^

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Xbox 360 and PS3 Are Just Very Crap PCs

They were cheaper, easier to use, more convenient.

Last I checked, consoles were still cheaper than gaming PC's.

Not really.

If you actually mean a dedicated gaming PC, then yeah, that's much more expensive than a console, but if you're talking about a PC that came play games at the same level that consoles can, then you can get a PC like that for around $400. Hell, the PC I have right now is a $650 laptop, and it can play Metro 2033 and Crysis on high settings.

Consoles might be a bit more affordable than PCs now, but not by much, and especially not if you consider how much extra you're spending on console games vs. PC games.

 

[ZeZZZZevy]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but another reason I'm delaying getting a gaming rig (aside from not knowing enough/being poor) is being able to move it. I go to college fairly far away from where I live, and moving a gaming rig just doesn't seem as feasible as throwing my xbox in an old laptop bag.

Just throwing that out there. Consoles are still smaller.

 

[Sight Unseen]

I disagree with that statement, you can say it's easy to just hook a PC into the TV and play it like that, but that's still not easy or accessible. I have no idea what kind of wiring is required or how to do it (I'm technologically inept, I admit it, and so are a lot of gamers) and I also have no idea what kind of controller works for PC or how it works. It's just way simpler with a console. Besides, a stationary PC would take up half my apartment so even if I wanted a gaming rig, I still can't fit one where I live (I'm writing this on a laptop).

There's a normal cable that you plug into your monitor. There are ports for this type of cable in most HDTV's nowadays so you use that. And most new PC games are compatible with xbox360 controllers. If you have a wired one you just plug it into USB. If it's wireless you can buy an adapter. Easy peasy

 

[the doom cannon]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but another reason I'm delaying getting a gaming rig (aside from not knowing enough/being poor) is being able to move it. I go to college fairly far away from where I live, and moving a gaming rig just doesn't seem as feasible as throwing my xbox in an old laptop bag.

Just throwing that out there. Consoles are still smaller.

If you're a true gamer you drive your baby all the way! Jk I know what you mean. My school is 2-3000 miles away from my permanent address. I have a gaming rig for my breaks, and I don't regret buying it one bit. All the video editing I wish I could do on my laptop I can do while on breaks. Same with getting off to insane graphics. It works out pretty well actually, since I think I'd flunk out of school if I had my gaming rig with me

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

There is ONE benefit to gaming on consoles.

ONE and ONE alone.

Consoles are cheaper.

Oh, the games aren't for sure, but consoles now are very cheap, it isn't hard to find a 360 that costs less than $100, while you will be hard press to find any computer that will play modern games at all for anything less than $400.

Besides that... yeah, nothing wrong with being a PC gamer.

Only on the hardware are consoles cheaper. But after you buy a 200 dollar console and several games through the years you will easily pay 50% more with a console than on a PC with steam sales.

True.

Not to mention we are also got a lot of free-to-play games, some of them even are good.

 

[ZeZZZZevy]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but another reason I'm delaying getting a gaming rig (aside from not knowing enough/being poor) is being able to move it. I go to college fairly far away from where I live, and moving a gaming rig just doesn't seem as feasible as throwing my xbox in an old laptop bag.

Just throwing that out there. Consoles are still smaller.

If you're a true gamer you drive your baby all the way! Jk I know what you mean. My school is 2-3000 miles away from my permanent address. I have a gaming rig for my breaks, and I don't regret buying it one bit. All the video editing I wish I could do on my laptop I can do while on breaks. Same with getting off to insane graphics. It works out pretty well actually, since I think I'd flunk out of school if I had my gaming rig with me

I just choose to sleep less to fit in more gaming time, and that's seemed to work out fairly well. And I figure I might as well wait until I have a permanent address to buy a PC, just so I can be up-to-date when I actually have time to use it

 

[him over there]

So the moral of the story is that each system has their merits but publishers are squandering the consoles benefits to ape pcs? Got it let's move on to the next issue.

 

[Sheo_Dagana]

It's good to get this out there once again, because it's the thing that has been irritating me for a while now. I have always been a Jack of All Trades player - I play everything. Every console, every handheld, and a pretty rockin' PC.

The best argument for PC > Consoles, in my opinion, is the community. Even when a company has stopped supporting a game, the fan community at large will support it. Take a look at Vampire the Masquerade: Blood Lines. The release version of that game is garbage, and even when company behind it stopped supporting it, fans came out with a patch that made it infinitely better.

That's the kind of thing you'll never see on a console. Yes, with a console you can put a game right in and start playing, but not always. Sometimes there are massive day-one patches, DLC to redeem, and of course there are later patches to polish up the game that should have been finished when it shipped. And of course once these games are old hat, there may still be problems with them.

I think the age-old PC vs Console argument is more of a Freedom vs Convenience argument.

 

[mfeff]

If I want to play all my PC games with a controller do I have to set the button controls every time?

I prefer a combination of products to solve this nuisance.

DS3Tool/Motion n Joy

and

Xpadder

Toss in a blue tooth dongle and your ready to go with a PS3 controller, wireless, on your PC... plus customization profiles for games with shit native controller support... such as, I dunno... Limbo for PC... Add a Track Ir and your in it to win it... as they say.

Output HDMI to the TV, download a copy of Last Remnant and enjoy!

 

[Madmanonfire]

As someone who enjoys games on all platforms, I've been using my PC lately for less serious gaming while my consoles are for the "real" gaming. That's probably because most of my favorite games/series are console exclusives.
It's all about the games and the majority of ones I enjoy aren't available on PC. I won't count emulators because if I were to get a physical copy, it'd be easier and more enjoyable for me to just play it on my console.

 

[Diegolomac]

Well, in... erm... "developing" countries like Brazil it's impossible to have quality pc gaming because a good pc here costs almost 4 months salary for the average person. A console costs a bit less than one month so it's a lot more acessible, even though it's still freaking expensive.

If this person works for minimum wage 15 hours a week, yes they would take 4 months to save up enough to buy a good PC.

Well, in... erm... "developing" countries like Brazil it's impossible to have quality pc gaming because a good pc here costs almost 4 months salary for the average person. A console costs a bit less than one month so it's a lot more acessible, even though it's still freaking expensive.

Not really, a PS3 costs around R$1000, for this price or a little more you can build a good gaming PC (without the monitor). However, you'll probably need to have a PC anyway, so the real price is what is needed to upgrade a common PC to run games (which usually means a graphics card and maybe a new power source), which costs much less than a console.

Also, even if you spend a little more building the PC, you'll get the difference back and more just by buying games much cheaper. Console games are becoming less expensive here in Brazil, but it's still much better to buy AAA games in Steam sales than buying the console version.

I bought Assassin's Creed I for 6 dollars, ACII for around 10 dollars. Mass Effect 2: 12 dollars, Bioshock, 6 dollars, and so on. The cheaper you'll find the console versions of these old games on stores here is about R$50, which is about 4 times more expensive than I paid for the PC versions. And even newer games come down in price in just a few months, compared with the pricing of games in stores here which is crazy (Dragon Age 2 is old and it's still priced around R$200 in most places, unfortunately it's not available on Steam anymore but even on Origin it costs about R$50).

Alright, I stand corrected. Maybe it's just because I live in a little town in the middle of nowhere where everything is more expensive than it would be on a big city. But still, I have a below average vaio laptop that I bought online from Sao Paulo for R$3000 less than 6 months ago (and it was a promotion, the thing was almost R$4000 when I checked a couple of months later), and an Xbox360 that cost me around R$1000 two years ago, plus around R$280 for a second controller and a hard drive. And yeah, my laptop runs stuff like Portal 2 on medium settings without many problems, but I put Witcher 2 on windowed mode in the lowest resolution and lowest graphical settings, so it occupied about a fifth of my screen, and it still ran with about 10 fps.

 

[Danial]

I prefer Consoles, Origin (and you know that Activision etc will have there own origins as soon as EA prove its a money pit) and stuff like the Diablo 3 launch fiasco soured me to real PC gaming. Even with a Red ring and the odd in game bug I've spend less time and money fixing or trying to debug my PC than I ever have my xbox, Mass effect goes in, Mass effect plays. Now that same with on the PC recently made me want to murder a fucking owl and send it to whom ever Designed Origin.

The problem I have with PC gaming is that while its all well and good if you actually get how to Mod, Debug, Fix hard/software issues, If you don't, or at least can't be bothered to fix/tinker with your games, It's a nightmare.

Spending five, yes FIVE hours recently trying to get Diablo 3 running on my PC only to find that all it really needed was the 8th reinstall was not a fun time. I know you CAN fine tune a PC or at least get a good rig going for cheap with limited know how but you need ZERO know how for the vast majority of Console gaming, Put disc in play game is about it. there are times when playing WOW or something, I come home from work, turn on the PC and get some problem and then spend 30 or so minutes chasing down some silly problem when all i want to do is prove how overpowered by shaman is. I can't even remember the last time i had this issue out side of a PS3 Installing screen (fuck that with a spade btw)

Also Lovefilm game rental doesn't exists for PC, thats a biggie for me, I pay like £10 a month and get 2 full retail including brand new (MW3 on launch day says hi) games a week to play. This is why I love Mr Xbox. But still, PC gaming is better if you can be arsed or for some games (MMOS/RTS etc on consoles are worse than mega pony aids) but my point stands.

Oh and is it me or every time I see someone saying consolefag or non ironicly say golden PC master race I feel a weird sense of pity more than anger or w/e. Poor people.

 

[ElPatron]

DRM, compatability issues or a need to upgrade constantly among others.

personally I use cracks to bypass DRM, I don't even know what a compatibility issue is anymore, and I haven't upgraded in 3 years.

Oh yeah, i can connect controllers to my laptop, except most of them are pieces of crap, with shitty d-pads, that becomes more shittier after 1 month of using it. Of course theres always that driver for PS3 controllers i can use, but most of the games wont recognize it.

You wouldn't buy a $10 gamepad for your xbox, right? To me anything above 30? is pretty decent and more reasonable than 60? (almost 100 friggin bucks) for a 360 controller.

and the PC community is full of elitist snobs that hate people who are new to playing games or assholes just looking for exploits to help them win.

Wow, you went from reasonable to Full Metal Hater in a second. SC2 has to be one of the most elitist games ever, of course you will find elitism there. Same thing with the DOTA genre.

You can't judge a "community" (hate that word when it's applied to gaming) that is composed by people who won't actually meet each other.

Let's imagine you like Metal. You can't expect every metalhead to be instantly friendly to you. Specially if you like Metallica and they like Megadeth (or whatever). Then trying to meet some fans that constantly insult each other and expecting friends is not going to end well. Hope my analogy got trough.

 

[Poisoned Al]

I disagree with that statement, you can say it's easy to just hook a PC into the TV and play it like that, but that's still not easy or accessible. I have no idea what kind of wiring is required or how to do it (I'm technologically inept, I admit it, and so are a lot of gamers) and I also have no idea what kind of controller works for PC or how it works. It's just way simpler with a console. Besides, a stationary PC would take up half my apartment so even if I wanted a gaming rig, I still can't fit one where I live (I'm writing this on a laptop).

Most modern TVs have PC inputs (DVI or VGA). Most modern video cards have HDMI out (or have converters packaged with them.) Ether way you can use an TV that isn't an old CRT as a computer monitor. A dedicated computer monitor will be better of course, but it works. By brother uses his Sony Bravia for his TV, PC and 360.

 

[Epona]

Also i think its easier to cheat on games on PC than a console.

Yes, consoles let designers control your experience and if they don't want you to cheat, you won't. I am wondering how much longer people are going to put up with being told how to play.

Right now I am playing Final Fantasy XII. I know that there is alot of grind and if I find that I am not up for it when the time comes, I can Gameshark it and get some levels, license points or just infinite HP/MP. Will I do that? I don't know but the option is nice to have.

Now, if I wanted to Gameshark Final Fantasy XIII (which is also grindy), I couldn't because cheat devices on the PS3/360/Wii would just be patched out.