Joss Whedon deletes twitter account following mass of feminist criticism

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VanQ said:
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SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
And this excuses all the harrassment he received how?
Don't you see?

He didn't get punched in the face, he walked into a door. That'll learn him.
 

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VanQ said:
Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
And this excuses all the harrassment he received how?
Never has and never will?
 

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Just came to see whether that response had been posted. Whedon says it's "horseshit" that feminists chased him off Twitter.

Joss Whedon said:
"[...]Literally the second person to write me to ask if I was OK when I dropped out was [Feminist Frequency founder] Anita [Sarkeesian].?
With that in mind, the thread title is misleading.
 

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Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
I feel that I must point out that according to this poll from buisness insider, Buzzfeed is one of the least trusted new sources in the US
http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-2014-10
 

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I'm confused, what aspect of her character is being criticized?

Anyway, I can't imagine needing much of an excuse to shut down your twitter page. The only reason I keep a facebook is for work related purposes. I'll probably disable it anyway.
Ya what really is everyone's problem with the Black Widow character?

She's nuanced, clever, and deeply flawed, yet is a strong individual in a roster of superpowered beings.

She tricked the god of trickery. Enough Said.
 

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spartenX said:
Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
I feel that I must point out that according to this poll from buisness insider, Buzzfeed is one of the least trusted new sources in the US
http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-2014-10
I must point out that this is not just a rumor mill stuff, this is an interview with the man. If they told me the sky would be blue tomorrow i would expect it to be red, but they can't just make up an interview with out getting in a lot of hot water.
 

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Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
Usually you don't delete your account to take a break from it; you write something like 'Taking a break! See ya in a couple o'months!' and stop both writing there and reading it.
 

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Rastrelly said:
Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
Usually you don't delete your account to take a break from it; you write something like 'Taking a break! See ya in a couple o'months!' and stop both writing there and reading it.
in the interview he says that it's mostly his own inability to step away from twitter that causes issues, which would explain killing it so the temptation is way less.
 

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Either Joss' explanation is BS or he's a very inconsiderate person to his fans. A respectful person would have says why before creating a day of internet drama that ran the risk of giving the people he supports further bad press.
 

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Either Joss' explanation is BS or he's a very inconsiderate person to his fans. A respectful person would have says why before creating a day of internet drama that ran the risk of giving the people he supports further bad press.
Yeah, how disrespectful. How dare he focus on his career. He owes it to us to explain his every action. I am simply outraged!

Anyway, good luck to everyone involved in the Wonder Woman movie. When I think of the shitstorm modern feminists will unleash upon the internet on June 23rd, 2017 it physically tires me.
 

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Sudieken said:
Redd the Sock said:
Either Joss' explanation is BS or he's a very inconsiderate person to his fans. A respectful person would have says why before creating a day of internet drama that ran the risk of giving the people he supports further bad press.
Yeah, how disrespectful. How dare he focus on his career. He owes it to us to explain his every action. I am simply outraged!

Anyway, good luck to everyone involved in the Wonder Woman movie. When I think of the shitstorm modern feminists will unleash upon the internet on June 23rd, 2017 it physically tires me.
Because taking the 5 minutes to explain what he was doing before he did it so that everyone wouldn't panic and think the worst would have been such a hardship. Ironically, the interview would have taken longer so was the more inefficient use of time. I'm not a large fan of his and don't care what he does. I just judge things based on my own life in office management and rate this as either a PR backtrack, or he (like so many others) doesn't think far enough ahead to not take actions that will get people unnecessarily riled up.

PS Fully agree on the Wonder Woman thing and have been saying that for years. Shitstorms of stuff that if given to a female game developer would be the cause to call for blanket bans, won't make any studio more open to trying. Hell we can kiss a Black Widow solo goodbye at this point.
 

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thaluikhain said:
JoJo said:
Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
Ha, called it, maybe a lesson here guys about waiting for the full story to emerge before unleashing the dogs of war :p
Eh, doesn't matter. People will ignore this small fact and keep ranting.
Yeah, like this shitlord: "I?ve said before, when you declare yourself politically, you destroy yourself artistically,? he said. ?Because suddenly that?s the litmus test for everything you do ? for example, in my case, feminism. If you don?t live up to the litmus test of feminism in this one instance, then you?re a misogynist. It circles directly back upon you.?

Nothing to do with escaping SocMedia, though, oh no. Just one of them unrelated "showerthoughts". And I guess "destroying yourself artistically" is not such a big deal for some artists.
 

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Silvanus said:
Just came to see whether that response had been posted. Whedon says it's "horseshit" that feminists chased him off Twitter.

Joss Whedon said:
"[...]Literally the second person to write me to ask if I was OK when I dropped out was [Feminist Frequency founder] Anita [Sarkeesian].?
With that in mind, the thread title is misleading.
That's nice of her.

I wonder if her co-writer and producer also extended his best wishes.


Oh. Guess that's probably a "no", then.
 

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You know the sad thing? I can even predict how this is going to go now.

One group of people is going to start yelling "not all feminists", although maybe not in those exact words, and throwing no true Scotsman fallacies all over the place. Whilst singularly failing to realise the irony of doing so. Meanwhile the worst of them will be doing everything they can to turn this into a positive for "their side".

The other side is going to throw a collective wobbler (arguably rightfully in this particular case) about the fact that a much loved Director/Producer has been forced off social media. And the worst of them are going to respond by, rather than doing something constructive in support of Joss Whedon, trying to crash and burn everything (definitely wrongly) and causing even more hate and vitriol.

And then around and around we go. Welcome to the internet 2015, ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy your stay. -_-
You should change your screenname to "Joseph Joestar"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jnVadPvjro
 

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Ogoid said:
Silvanus said:
Just came to see whether that response had been posted. Whedon says it's "horseshit" that feminists chased him off Twitter.

Joss Whedon said:
"[...]Literally the second person to write me to ask if I was OK when I dropped out was [Feminist Frequency founder] Anita [Sarkeesian].?
With that in mind, the thread title is misleading.
That's nice of her.

I wonder if her co-writer and producer also extended his best wishes.


Oh. Guess that's probably a "no", then.
We're blaming people for things they haven't done, now?
 

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I have a friend who belongs to a very Social Justice-Oriented group. We're both seeing this movie this weekend. I wonder if she'll have anything to say as we walk out.
 

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Zontar said:
Though I have to ask, have you seen Age of Ultron? Because Haweye could be argued that despite his lack of powers he may be the single most important member on the team, not despite the fact that he's only human, but because of that very reason. He grounds them, brings them back to Earth.

Plus, in the case of Black Widow, there's just no wining when it comes to the people who complained about this. They got a strong, well written but flawed character,
I think Captain America can served as the grounded one in a pinch but I do like how they added more character to Hawkeye so he isn't just "the guy who shoots arrows". What are Black Widow's flaws. Nothing really jumped out at me on the screen.
 

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Ogoid said:
Silvanus said:
Just came to see whether that response had been posted. Whedon says it's "horseshit" that feminists chased him off Twitter.

Joss Whedon said:
"[...]Literally the second person to write me to ask if I was OK when I dropped out was [Feminist Frequency founder] Anita [Sarkeesian].?
With that in mind, the thread title is misleading.
That's nice of her.

I wonder if her co-writer and producer also extended his best wishes.


Oh. Guess that's probably a "no", then.
My god that dude is insane. It explains so much about feminist frequency including the undercurrent of 'violence in video games is bad'.
 

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Ogoid said:
Silvanus said:
Just came to see whether that response had been posted. Whedon says it's "horseshit" that feminists chased him off Twitter.

Joss Whedon said:
"[...]Literally the second person to write me to ask if I was OK when I dropped out was [Feminist Frequency founder] Anita [Sarkeesian].?
With that in mind, the thread title is misleading.
That's nice of her.

I wonder if her co-writer and producer also extended his best wishes.


Oh. Guess that's probably a "no", then.
I don't really like the guy, he comes off as a smug critic that loves to stir controversy at the best of times, but you know what I didn't see in that compilation of Tweets: attacks against Joss Whedon himself, personal insults, or death threats.

The closest he got was calling out what he saw as a hypocrisy of the Age of Ultron in criticizing ultra-violence and then unabashedly reveling in it. None of that precludes him thinking that the death threats and personal insults leveled against Joss Whedon were not ok, or even supporting Mr. Whedon's efforts in movie making despite criticizing his movies.

I don't mean to pick at you, but really, I see no reason why, from what you've posted at least, McIntosh wouldn't support Mr. Whedon, this seems like a really weak assumption that because some crazy Twitter feminists ganged up on him, then the usual suspects the internet has a hate boner for must automatically approve of that behavior.

There used to be a poster on this board named Sleekit, I disagreed with nearly everything he said, and he came off as smug and hyperbolic at times, I criticized his posts on multiple occasions. However, that in no way meant that I hated him as a person, or wished for him to leave, be banned, or wishing for his death. Before he got perma-banned he posted some worrying things indicating that he was very depressed, despite my disagreements with him, I do genuinely hope that his banning here didn't cause him to self-harm, and if anyone did personally antagonize him, I would not support that sentiment just because I disagreed with his posts.

Basically, nothing you've posted gives me the impression that Jonathon McIntosh would approve of people telling Joss Whedon to kill himself, or that he should be forced out of making movies, or even just Avengers movies. Maybe he's posted something attacking Joss Whedon himself, I don't know, I don't follow the guys Twitter account, but nothing you've posted really leads me to think that the guy wouldn't still offer his sympathies for the crazier people out there telling Joss to kill himself or stop making movies. Being critical of an artist's work doesn't mean you hate the artist themselves, or even want them to stop making art.
 

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Hoplon said:
Rastrelly said:
Hoplon said:
SO, apparently no, nothing chased him off twitter, taking a break while writing.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/joss-whedon-on-leaving-twitter#.pialN6Elod

the things you learn.
Usually you don't delete your account to take a break from it; you write something like 'Taking a break! See ya in a couple o'months!' and stop both writing there and reading it.
in the interview he says that it's mostly his own inability to step away from twitter that causes issues, which would explain killing it so the temptation is way less.
Well, maybe. I hope so, at least. Timing is still to convenient though.