Yes, because it's a forum and anyone, can jump in on a conversation, as I am doing now.theklng said:
Just how good was Half Life 2 ?
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I guess you weren't talking to me but about me (read back to where I completely agreed with him). Which I have no problem setting the record straight when something like that should happen. If you wanted a private conversation we have these wonderful things called private messages that are just for private conversations. Yes The Escapist does have the technology.theklng said:
Good job. I would really hate to see you stress yourself attempting to be a little mature or even evolve a bit. Instead you just go back to your fetal position and cry because someone debunked your little theory.theklng said:
Or is it someone didn't take your little flamebait?
Gee, because we've never seen a pro Half Life 2 thread before. If I entered this thread before all the other posts, I could have predicted that there would be Half-Life fantards, Half-Life haters and a whole lot of bullshit.
Making a Half-Life thread at the Escapist is just a troll's delight - like making a circumcised vs uncircumcised thread on 4chan.
Making a Half-Life thread at the Escapist is just a troll's delight - like making a circumcised vs uncircumcised thread on 4chan.
there was no flamebait nor was there a theory. i love it when people assume things out of the blue and then seek to disprove them. i asked a simple question to a specific person, of whom i expected an answer from, for whatever stupid reason in my head (hint: i can have reasons i'm not telling you). instead, you choose to be the white knight going around trying to trump some certain evil that doesn't even exist in the first place. get real; if i had wanted your opinion, i would have asked you.squid5580 said:
PS: calling people immature while lashing out at them with ad hominem attacks is just a tad hypocritical, don't you think?
decent shooter, awesome setpieces, good characters, deep story, engaging.
Nothing special on the FPS front, but massive for game stories and general immersion
Nothing special on the FPS front, but massive for game stories and general immersion
I agree with the above post, The game was a piece of art but it had it's faults.Erana said:
I found at times that it was difficult to bring myself to play it, I brought myself to play it because it was brilliant. I think saying that it is average or that the story is sub-par is kind of halo 3-ing it and it does not deserve that treatment. You have to take it for what it is, a fairly outdated game that is as good as games today. Remarkable.
I will concede that it did have it's fair share of cliches, but keep in mind though, it had it's fair share of unique themes and ideas as well. My comparison wasn't meant to be literal. What I was simply saying was there's a clear difference in quality and creative genius behind Half-Life and the aforementioned Halo. (or most other games, I used Halo as my example only because the other poster used it in his examples) So my Mozart to 50 Cent analogy was simply my way of saying, while ones tastes may prefer one over the other (in this case, 50 over Mozart), one still cannot deny the genius behind the other. Most people today may prefer the music of more recent artists, but they'd sound like fools if they said, say, Bach or Mozart wrote terrible music and had no musical talent.not a zaar said:
Anyway, to address your question more directly, I'll say this. Some of the greatest stories ever told didn't necessarily have the most unique ideas or themes. They may not have had the most complex or deep story arcs or even the most dramatic character interactions. So what makes a truly great story great? The way it's told. This is what differentiates Half-Life from most other FPSs. The story is told in such a unique and atmospheric way that it literally draws the player in and places her/him in the shoes of Gordon. You never see or experience any other part of the tale except for what happens to and around Gordon. The only insights you might gain into what's happening elsewhere come from you possibly overhearing other characters talking about those other events. This makes the story feel like it's your own and not some dramatic tale that's being told to you. That's why so many people, like myself, love Half-Life. When they played it, they felt like they were playing their story their way. Not just playing some mindless game while someone was telling them a story.
I really liked it, sometimes it can be frustrating trying to figure out what to do, but overall its a great game.
Wrong. I played Half-Life 2 only last month. I've palyed plenty of first person shooters. The only two that redifined a FPS was Goldeneye OO7 and more recently Portal. The only thing that Half-Life 2 excelled at that most other Fps's didn't was storytelling. So, if you think storytelling is genre defining for an FPS, then keep believing it redefined the genre.Crash486 said:
Actually no, it redefined the FPS by introducing the first realistic physics engine in an fps which implemented entities with distinct weights, and densities, combined with ragdoll physics to create really the first fully interactive realistic digital environment. Hence they the game places alot of emphasis on the gravity gun. Before halflife 2, wooden crates would maybe shatter when you shot them, in halflife 2 wood floats, splinters like wood, breaks when a heavier object is dropped on top of it etc.JackB said:
Also, half-life 2 has amazing graphics and textures, most of which rival most FPS today on highest settings. Each character model has multiple facial muscles allowing them to show distinct human emotions. The storytelling is good too, but that's really just gingerbread compared to the source engine.
Lastly, it had the most advance enemy AI of its time, as enemies would actually come up with strategies on how to defeat you. For instance, if you barricaded a wall with a heavy object, they would flank you through a window or another door. So actually, it did alot to revolutionize the genre... so booya.
Goldeneye didn't revolutionize the FPS genre, it revolutionized the console fps as it was the first well implemented console fps.
You know bringing up the physics engine got me thinking. "Do I play an FPS for the physics or the experience?" psst. Like most people its the experience. If you compare the graphics of HL 2 to Bioshock and Halo 3 it loses, easily. The only thing HL 2 does better then som FPS's is the story presentation. Most people don't play an FPS to be "wowed" by the source engine. If it wasn't for Goldeneye OO7 there probably wouldn't be any console FPS's anymore.Crash486 said:
Barney IS dead.ddq5 said:
HOW WILL YOU CONTINUE NOW?
Seriously. What the fuck happened to Barney?!