Just stupid! The things people believe!
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Ah, illegal immigrants. We persecute them for taking our jobs that we don't want to do in the first place. The white trash idiots who say they are "taking their jobs away" use that as an excuse for not getting a f*cking job so they can continue to watch TV and drink the piss-water that is light beer. Maddox "hit that nail on the head" (that phrase makes no sense, where else would you hit a nail? The sides? Maybe if you're pants-on-head retarded).
I'll repeat myself. There are no jobs Americans won't do, just jobs Americans won't do at that wage. An American working in a meat packing plant at $8 an hour is not necessarily white trash, or even white - look at what has happened with unemployment among young black and Latino men in areas with high illegal populations. An American single mother working as a hotel maid for $7 an hour is not necessarily a bad person, just a person with few job skills. That $7 an hour job might be the difference in her working, with some pride and self-reliance, and her raising her child on welfare. And if she does that job well, she might well go on to a better job. Very few people who earn minimum wage still earn minimum wage years later. It's easiest to learn job skills in school, but experience works too.
Just because someone earns little money or has no job skills to protect them from competition with illegal immigrants doesn't make them bad people, and it certainly doesn't make you superior to them. There are a lot of reasons why people don't pick up marketable job skills - a divorce at home might make a kid so miserable he flunks out of school. A kid forced to move very often may fail to get a useful education simply because of social pressures and unhappiness. A girl might get pregnant and drop out to keep her baby. A kid might drop out of school because he has to work to support the family, or to follow a dream of being a musician, or because he gets hooked on drugs or alcohol. A kid can get diagnosed with mental illness or mild retardation or a learning disability and not be given access to the advanced educational opportunities needed to get job skills safe from illegal competition. Some kids drift through school not learning much simply because they have no role models; nothing in their world convinces them that education and hard work are desirable and useful things, at least to them. Some kids live in school districts where the kind of education that allows one to easily go on to earn valuable job skills is simply not available. Kids in these situations who don't learn valuable job skills are necessarily bad or dumb, they just aren't exceptional enough, or lucky enough, to overcome the odds stacked against them.
Many kids didn't learn a job skill now in demand because they expected to work in a local factory or mine - then that factory closed and went to China, that mine closed, leaving them with job skills that no one wanted. (That applies even in engineering - any idea how many aeronautical engineers went from $100K to $12K in one year?) Some people committed crimes and did jail time, or are registered sex offenders, and unskilled labor is all they can get. All these sorts of people are very vulnerable to sudden increases in unskilled labor, and illegals are the worst because employers can treat them worse, require more from them, give them fewer or no benefits, in addition to the wage lowering effect of any increase in any particular labor pool.
You need to get off your high horse. Very few of us haven't made some mistakes, some bad choices, in life. And no job skills are completely safe - new methods of outsourcing are always being tried, and existing industries are continually becoming obsolete. Just because you may have earned rare and valuable job skills doesn't make you a better person, just a more valuable one on the job market.
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Just because someone earns little money or has no job skills to protect them from competition with illegal immigrants doesn't make them bad people, and it certainly doesn't make you superior to them. There are a lot of reasons why people don't pick up marketable job skills - a divorce at home might make a kid so miserable he flunks out of school. A kid forced to move very often may fail to get a useful education simply because of social pressures and unhappiness. A girl might get pregnant and drop out to keep her baby. A kid might drop out of school because he has to work to support the family, or to follow a dream of being a musician, or because he gets hooked on drugs or alcohol. A kid can get diagnosed with mental illness or mild retardation or a learning disability and not be given access to the advanced educational opportunities needed to get job skills safe from illegal competition. Some kids drift through school not learning much simply because they have no role models; nothing in their world convinces them that education and hard work are desirable and useful things, at least to them. Some kids live in school districts where the kind of education that allows one to easily go on to earn valuable job skills is simply not available. Kids in these situations who don't learn valuable job skills are necessarily bad or dumb, they just aren't exceptional enough, or lucky enough, to overcome the odds stacked against them.
Many kids didn't learn a job skill now in demand because they expected to work in a local factory or mine - then that factory closed and went to China, that mine closed, leaving them with job skills that no one wanted. (That applies even in engineering - any idea how many aeronautical engineers went from $100K to $12K in one year?) Some people committed crimes and did jail time, or are registered sex offenders, and unskilled labor is all they can get. All these sorts of people are very vulnerable to sudden increases in unskilled labor, and illegals are the worst because employers can treat them worse, require more from them, give them fewer or no benefits, in addition to the wage lowering effect of any increase in any particular labor pool.
You need to get off your high horse. Very few of us haven't made some mistakes, some bad choices, in life. And no job skills are completely safe - new methods of outsourcing are always being tried, and existing industries are continually becoming obsolete. Just because you may have earned rare and valuable job skills doesn't make you a better person, just a more valuable one on the job market.
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And the fact that Americas economy's is in a slump. And may job oppertunitys are being lost so less jobs means more unskilled workers which in turn makes competition worse since you have to fight for jobs with fellow Americans and immigrants.werepossum said:
this isnt really a thing people belive but a nintendo spokes person when asked about games affecting peoples lives said "if games influence our lives we would be like pac man standing in darkened rooms, listening to repetitive electronic music whilest eating magical pills"
lulz sound familiar???
lulz sound familiar???
WAL MART: police were called to a local Wal Mart recently with reports of a baby in a trash can, upon investigation it turned out to be a burrito.
That is a real police report.
Holy shit.
That is a real police report.
Holy shit.
Sadly, my grandma and mom believe that gas prices will go up to 12 dollars a gallon within the next four years.
No words can express how much more than "holy shit" this story deserves.the monopoly guy said:
They thought a burrito was a baby? Who told the bacon? Jack Thompson? Jesus Christ, the gene pool DOES need some chlorine. One gallon a person.
now i find that... untrue, not stupidthebobmaster said:
It will get more expensive than that, just wait until Obama pulls out of Iraq (not that i think the man is wrong to do so, provided he does it right)
Imagine how many 'terrorist actions' can drive up prices then.
It annoys me that people widely believe the claim that "evangelical"(*) predictions of the apocalypse (like the ones you see in Left Behind) are "based on a literal interpretation of the Bible." I don't blame them, really -- this is how this stuff is always described by the media.
Now, I'm not a Bible-lover or a Christian, but there really is no way in hell that an elaborate interpretive framework based on carefully rearranging passages and looking for buried metaphors and secret code is "literal." As far as text-that-is-actually-in-the-Bible goes, even the very concept of "the Antichrist" is a huge stretch.
-- Alex
* - Technically the right term is "Premillenial Dispensationalist," since many "evangelical" Christians don't actually believe this stuff or anything remotely like it.
Now, I'm not a Bible-lover or a Christian, but there really is no way in hell that an elaborate interpretive framework based on carefully rearranging passages and looking for buried metaphors and secret code is "literal." As far as text-that-is-actually-in-the-Bible goes, even the very concept of "the Antichrist" is a huge stretch.
-- Alex
* - Technically the right term is "Premillenial Dispensationalist," since many "evangelical" Christians don't actually believe this stuff or anything remotely like it.
Funny thing, the first couple years of Oscars did exactly that. Then it stopped. Stupidities.SenseOfTumour said:
...you're, you're kidding right? I'm not going to flame or anything butdudehead said:
1 unexplained mysteries is a forum devoted to that stuff
2 All the evidence so far has been debunked or has not been excepted by the scientific community. Every time there is an expedition to search for him they don't find a single trace but these loners in the woods see him all the time. The descriptions of him are very similar to that of the Native Americans well woopty-doo, have you ever played a sports game? it's the same thing over and over. If they were real a dead body would have been found by now and the original ?footprints? that started it all were hoaxes. Before that there were no sightings or anything and after that there were tons. A little odd isn?t it? We have found no hair, no feces, no bodies, no evidence besides eye witness reports, blurry out of focus videos/pictures and some footprints that can easily be fake or misidentified. An animal that size needs a lot of territory and despite the northwest being very large there still isn?t enough. If an animal that size were roaming the woods, and if there were a breeding population, we would be able to find it. If we can track whales in an ocean, bears in the arctic, jaguars through dense jungles, bears throughout the mountains, then we should be able to find a bloody Bigfoot. Don?t you think?
this pretty much applies to all pseudoscience. And it's called pseudoscience for a reason. Pseudoscience means fake science.