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Blindswordmaster

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To robot me:"Hey, we're the same person. But only one me can exist, therefore, you can't exist and you don't actually exist." The robot will then fade away into non-existence while trying to prove its existence. Then I will go about my day.
 

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Blindswordmaster said:
To robot me:"Hey, we're the same person. But only one me can exist, therefore, you can't exist and you don't actually exist." The robot will then fade away into non-existence while trying to prove its existence. Then I will go about my day.
The robot just takes on your persona that trick don't work I'm afraid :(
 

Hiikuro

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I can't.

It is not I who can justify my own existence. To justify my own existence I would have to be the one to set the criteria of what makes my life justified. I can't do that.

I live my life according to what I believe to be good and right. But my judgment of that may as well be completely wrong.

I think I just lost my 'self'. I should go get me back..
 

Togs

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how could 90% of people alive prove beyond any form of doubt that they deserve to be alive?

The episode itself addresses with Listers "Shut Up Hannibal" moment at the very end

As far as I see it, be a nice person and dont do anything terrible, and then sure why not? why shouldnt I/you/we be alive?
 

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thethingthatlurks said:
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I laugh at your pitiful attempt to force me to justify an act over which I have no control. Who is this creature that dares to ask me to justify my existence? I am, I have been, and I will be. Why came to be was beyond my control, though what I make of my life shall not be constrained by pitiful minds, pitiful creatures, and pitiful challenges. But more to the point, who are you to ask me? Justify that act! How are you superior to me? Are you the immortal creator of all that is? No? Well, have you overcome the limitations of our species, have you transcended what it means to be human? No? Aw, such a shame...
/objectivist/nihilist reply
Ah! Well this was also asked on the show? The answer? The robot takes on the persona of whoever it is judging at the time. You are judged by yourself your worst critic, who knows all your faults and if you are lieing or not.
Ah, now it's getting interesting. 'course, the same line of reasoning applies. In order to be judged, the judge must be superior to the accused. This can never be the case when one is judged by themselves. Continuing on this train of thought, one arrives at the conclusion that one can never be limited by what others claim, their laws, and their ideas. The self is paramount, one's own desires justify anything, even harm onto others. To answer the original question as succinctly as possible: I do not exist because I think, I exist because I can.

Also, is there anything named "xustr" here? Captcha wants me to press it...
And this robot believes it exists to judge peoples existence, therefor it believes your existence is useless and another sperm could have done something better unless you have done something to justify being. Touche though good sir! You put up quite the argument into this and a lot of thought.
And I content that another robot could perform the same job much better. This of course leaves aside the question of why the robot deems it necessary to bother me in the first place, but I'll let that one slide. Heh, my teenage years spent reading Nietzsche, Sartre, Machiavelli, Rand, and Camus (k, this one not so much) have finally paid off!
Thanks for making this thread! It has entertained me quite a bit.
 

Mr. Omega

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Damn. I came into this thread ready to say "I have given pleasure to the world because I have such a beautiful ass.", but now that I know the whole thread was inspired by Red Dwarf, I don't feel as clever.

OT: I've gone through a lot of crap in my life to get where I am now, I'm not letting some high-and-mighty machine say I haven't lived a worthy life!
 

Blindswordmaster

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Very well then, proceeding with alternate argument: You are me. We have the same morality. You have destroyed sentient life, the greatest offense one can make. You have placed yourself above your peers, another offense. You are as devastated by your actions as I would be. You have disgraced yourself, brought untold suffering to the universe, shamed our family, destroyed your honor, and broken your pledge to protect and aid your fellow being. You do not deserve to exist. You are a monster. *Filled with disgust he asks me to kill him, in order to sacrifice himself to save others.* I exist to kill you and ,thus doing so, save millions of lives. Though I cannot restore your honor, I can give you peace. *Robot states that he does not deserve peace* Vaya con Dios. *I raise my gun to his head. He says 'thank you'. BANG*
 

Flamehero1

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thethingthatlurks said:
Flamehero1 said:
thethingthatlurks said:
Flamehero1 said:
thethingthatlurks said:
I laugh at your pitiful attempt to force me to justify an act over which I have no control. Who is this creature that dares to ask me to justify my existence? I am, I have been, and I will be. Why came to be was beyond my control, though what I make of my life shall not be constrained by pitiful minds, pitiful creatures, and pitiful challenges. But more to the point, who are you to ask me? Justify that act! How are you superior to me? Are you the immortal creator of all that is? No? Well, have you overcome the limitations of our species, have you transcended what it means to be human? No? Aw, such a shame...
/objectivist/nihilist reply
Ah! Well this was also asked on the show? The answer? The robot takes on the persona of whoever it is judging at the time. You are judged by yourself your worst critic, who knows all your faults and if you are lieing or not.
Ah, now it's getting interesting. 'course, the same line of reasoning applies. In order to be judged, the judge must be superior to the accused. This can never be the case when one is judged by themselves. Continuing on this train of thought, one arrives at the conclusion that one can never be limited by what others claim, their laws, and their ideas. The self is paramount, one's own desires justify anything, even harm onto others. To answer the original question as succinctly as possible: I do not exist because I think, I exist because I can.

Also, is there anything named "xustr" here? Captcha wants me to press it...
And this robot believes it exists to judge peoples existence, therefor it believes your existence is useless and another sperm could have done something better unless you have done something to justify being. Touche though good sir! You put up quite the argument into this and a lot of thought.
And I content that another robot could perform the same job much better. This of course leaves aside the question of why the robot deems it necessary to bother me in the first place, but I'll let that one slide. Heh, my teenage years spent reading Nietzsche, Sartre, Machiavelli, Rand, and Camus (k, this one not so much) have finally paid off!
Thanks for making this thread! It has entertained me quite a bit.
It's the only robot capable of doing the job though, and it's bothering everyone traveling through time and space... and your very welcome :)
 

Flamehero1

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Blindswordmaster said:
Very well then, proceeding with alternate argument: You are me. We have the same morality. You have destroyed sentient life, the greatest offense one can make. You have placed yourself above your peers, another offense. You are as devastated by your actions as I would be. You have disgraced yourself, brought untold suffering to the universe, shamed our family, destroyed your honor, and broken your pledge to protect and aid your fellow being. You do not deserve to exist. You are a monster. *Filled with disgust he asks me to kill him, in order to sacrifice himself to save others.* I exist to kill you and ,thus doing so, save millions of lives. Though I cannot restore your honor, I can give you peace. *Robot states that he does not deserve peace* Vaya con Dios. *I raise my gun to his head. He says 'thank you'. BANG*
He believes he is doing everything for the greater good, he has a purpose-to get rid of those who would waste the gift of life.
 

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Mr. Omega said:
Damn. I came into this thread ready to say "I have given pleasure to the world because I have such a beautiful ass.", but now that I know the whole thread was inspired by Red Dwarf, I don't feel as clever.

OT: I've gone through a lot of crap in my life to get where I am now, I'm not letting some high-and-mighty machine say I haven't lived a worthy life!
A welcome and witty reply none the less! Sadly someone beat you to it!
 

rubinigosa

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Because I bring happiness and...stuff...Well no but maybe because I got 60-70 more years left and during that time I may do something to justify my existence.
 

Caligulove

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Justify your existence, ************. Either get on with it and kill me already or fuck off on whatever great purpose you, or anything else in the universe has.
 

Carlston

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I bring such pleasure to the world because I have such a beautiful ass...

That and I tell people how it is. And if I see past mistakes repeated I drill it into peoples head, crassly so they can change their own behavior and break the loop.
 

Brightzide

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Well, im going to be a teacher in due time. And children are the future. So, im a keeper of our races future ( atleast keeping our Future's IQ atleast at average )...its an important job but someone's gotta do it. Thats me justified
 

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I'm a good friend and i hope a good person, I'd say i was above average
EDIT: win-win, i get to be a better person with no effort:D it's a good thing
no one's going to miss me if i never existed are they? not even me