K/D in games, whats your thoughts?

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SL33TBL1ND

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The_Blue_Rider said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
People worry about K/D?
clearly you dont know many CoD players

or if you do you must know some pretty mellow ones
I play COD regularly with some friends and the only whining I see is people shouting lag every death. Of course, if people are using voice chat I wouldn't know, since everybody plays with mute all on.
 

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Griffstar said:
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Its a display of how good you are compared to others. You would like it if you were better than everyone else [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BraggingRightsReward]. And you wouldnt like it if youre lower than most, because its obvious that you arent as good as you think you are.

Once in Killzone 3 i somehow racked up 3 times as many kills as the nearest ally could. That was a good day.
WRONG.

Its a display on how much you kill whore per game and ignore the objective.
Let me give you an example.


In Team Deathmatch an average to good player will get 20-30kills and under 15 deaths.
Now in Demolition or Domination, by kill whoring and avoiding deaths you are prolonging the game time, time that you could of used to win the game. Most clans and teams will not look at your KDR to select you(Good teams anyways), they will look at you W/L Ratio. KDR does not show skill, it shows kills.

Next time you see somebody who has a high KDR, look at there W/L next time.
What you define as kill whoring has benefits to the objective depending on where and how you do it. Do it to deny support to an enemy position, your teams objective pogresses. Do it to defend an objective, your teams objective pogresses. Take down that one guy or several guys who are somehow butchering your team before theyre ready, your teams objective pogresses.

After all, your opponents are going to find it very hard to complete an objective if theyre all too busy bieng dead.

Teams win or lose, players on thier own either kills more or kills less efficently than other players.

Also, im not one for joining clan groups. They all just fall apart from one arrogant douche letting the power of a position of authority go to his head. That and i like the idea of bieng freelance.
 

Vanbael

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This is why I like games like Battlefield Bad Co. 2, and MAG. You get a little bit more on the side than just with kills.
Here's the deal, find a way to have kills not be your focus. Objectives are more the meat and the kills are the corn.
 

The_Blue_Rider

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Vanbael said:
This is why I like games like Battlefield Bad Co. 2, and MAG. You get a little bit more on the side than just with kills.
Here's the deal, find a way to have kills not be your focus. Objectives are more the meat and the kills are the corn.
i try to think this way but when i play objective based games, most of the people are just in it for kills, so its quite hard to
 

TriggerOnly

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I have a amazing natural skill at FPS and come 1St almost al the time when I try just a little. So my k/d is always high I personally don't think about it. Just go into a zone of fast thinking and reflex.
 

Saelune

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I hate stats...because I am a neurotic wanna be perfectionist. Sometimes its interesting, but most of the time my own craziness ruins things for me.
In Oblivion, I am super careful because I cant stand getting "assault" stats for sneak attacks on bandits.
And when my total K/D or W/L stats start tanking, it really bothers me. Im usually good enough to stay positive, but sometimes I have crap streaks or something, or enter many end games where I join the losing team and still get marked for it and it bothers me. Its unlikely and unreasonable to expect stat removal, esp with FPS games...but it would make my own head hurt less.
 

noxymoron19

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Your first problem here is you were taking Black Ops seriously and worrying what your score was.

Your second problem was not using the ballistic knife religously like a champ.

your third problem was taking Black Ops seriously.
 

flamingjimmy

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I like having stats about my gameplay, the more the better.

And it's pretty basic psychology that attaching actual quantifiers to performance is an incentive to persist, it keeps people coming back.

As for me, I was very much a K/D whore when I played call of duty, but now that I mostly play Battlefield, I've found myself caring less and less about it strangely, I still like it when a game ends and I see that I got a really good K/D, but I'm perfectly happy to be the guy who arms all the objectives and ends up with a K/D considerably below one, as long as I'm on a team that actually plays the objective. If I judge my team to be being selfish K/D whores who aren't playing the objective I'll either quite or just join in myself and quite after I've killed a few people.
 

jay622

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thats one of the reason i ENJOY halo more, because the lack of overwhelming competitiveness allows me to enjoy it. Games should be FUN, not a strive for everyone to be 'the best.'

And if your counterargument is "just ignore it," you obviously don't know my friends... lol
 

Chappy

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Forget about your K/D ratio at the end of the day it is just a number play for your entertainment not a statistic.

When I stopped caring about my K/D and others I started trying other weapons and tried to make the most annoying class I could and tried objective game types and it was honestly the most fun I had on Black Op's since buying it however I have since moved onto other games.

I will never have more fun than I did with a Stakeout and RPG's, ah that was a fun day.

(PS - Silenced AK 47 (Not the 74u) has a small spread when you fire try using it, it boosted my accuracy and K/D quite a bit if you are that worried)
 

Nouw

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In the only game I play that has K/D R, it only means that you can get into some servers or into some clans. I do mind however because a low K/D shows that you're either not good at the game or hustling (how you could do that, I'm not exactly sure) however a high K/D earns the respect of some people and prevents you from being labelled as a noob or hacker.
 

internetzealot1

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I don't care about overall KDR, because it goes out the window as soon as you step into an objective-based game mode.
 

ryai458

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I don't camp but I still rock a 1.99k/d, can't wait for brink no more campers, operatives though which will be fun instead of annoying.
 

-Dragmire-

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The_Blue_Rider said:
So all in all i think that games would be somewhat more enjoyable without this whole K/D business

So whats your opinion on the matter?
Stats are great when your trying to get something, either a game designed goal or a self defined goal. However if it ever gets in the way of enjoying the game then it's best ignored. Also it depends on what you play the game for; if your on a team with friends the K/D ratio matters for the team, if you play to enjoy developing your skill at it then turn your attention to strategy and experiment ways to flush out campers without dieing(it's less frustrating when you mark off a strategy as ineffective than calling it a failure), lastly, if you play just to blow people up then screw the k/d rush in and take out whatever you can. While you'd probably die a lot with the rambo strategy, it doesn't matter because you'd be in it for just the kills. In the end most statistics will mean something different to you if you go in with a different mind set.

(I should also say my experience in fps' is limited. Changing your immediate goal can do a lot to ward off frustration, this applies to many types of games)
 

The Lunatic

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I HAS 4/1 K/D I ARE BEST AT COD.

Ahem.

Anyway, I tend to not do too badly when it comes to K/D.

I mean, I'm not the worlds best shooter, and I tend to prefer sniping opposed to other stuff.

I prefer tactical shooters over everything else, where Killing isn't anywhere near as important as capturing points or defending and stuff, and accurate and recoil actually matter. As opposed to LOL-ROOM-CLEARING-WITH-AN-LMG.

People who make note of having a high K/D tend to be associated with the more reactionary shooters, and boasting about it is kinda... Well, it's a bit typical, if you know what I mean.
 

Layzor

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K/D is all that matters to me, making that number a bigger number is what keeps me playing CoD. Camping is for noobs, it doesn't give you a good K/D.


It's 3.52 in Blops btw.