K, so, japanese game devs hate us now?

[almostgold]

I don't think Japan hates us, we hate Japan. People don't want Japanese games they want patriotic American shooters. Japanese games became a niche market for "japanopiles" to a lot of people. Probably all 12 year old who love CoD, but they're the biggest market in gaming.

Gamers: If you don't like JRPG's, you're probably a 12 year-old, nationalistic COD fan.

 

[zombieshark6666]

All I know is that FF Type-0 is coming and it's gonna be awesome, turn-based or not. It's coming, right?

 

[Legion IV]

I am biased. I'm very irritated at how little games I've interested have come to my country for years. And it's only getting worse.

It doesn't mean there isn't reason to feel sad about how badly Japanese developers are doing right now. Even in Japan, Japanese developers aren't doing that well.

And also, seriously, you shouldn't have to live in an awful country like Japan in order to have your sort of video game readily available to you. I don't care what Japanese gamers like, the games Japanese developers make shouldn't do as badly as they do.

I feel you but dont worry about it, there not really dying there just not coming over here. JRPGS are still strong. I've been playing imports since like the late 90s. Just import that shit and your good EZ PZ. Theres always tons of fan translations that are somtimes better then the officail, or you may have a friend who grew up in japan like i do who translates for ya lol.

Just dont get irritated man, import and your life will be zen. Jrpgs for life .

 

[Vault101]

your telling me Weaboos/Otaku's dont even buy their damn Anime?

The type of 'anime fans' this person is describing, don't just not buy anime, they don't buy any media very often. There seems to be some overlap between Japanese NEET who watch anime, and American NEET who watch anime. Consequently a lot of the pirates of any media from any country, including video games, are also NEETs.

Again, it's not like anime fans who don't go buy anime go blow all their money on other stuff. It's that they're NEET internet addicts who hardly ever leave the house. When they do have money, they do often upgrade their computer, buy anime, manga, or anime games. But a lot of American "otaku" actually fit the otaku label by being "NEET" as well. So they just don't have the money to spend on anime, much less non-anime purchases.

But they're not the only anime fans out there. I spend lots of money on anime dvds. Though I tend to spend a lot more money on jRPGs.

I dont know what a NEET is...

but I figured that Anime apeals mainly to teenagers, and I guess teenagers dont have alot of disposable income

NEET is an originally UK term that is now quite popular in Japan. A NEET, not to be confused with Hikkikomori, stands for Not in Education, Employment or Training. It's basically the equivalent of a welfare leech that sits at home playing games and wasting the government's or even worse, their own parent's money on food and figurines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEET

ahh that makes sense (and an "offical" term as well)

at least I can justify my living space looking like the comicbook guys house if he had kleptomania...in that I have a job and its all paid for by me

otherwise I wouldnt be able to live wiht myself

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

JRPGs needs to look at where's the money at: Dark Fantasy.

 

[deadish]

What's going on lately? Japan's support for the overseas market is dwindling, lately. Is this how it's going to be from now on?

I was really looking forward to Tales of Xillia back when I'd first heard about it around a year or two ago, but they don't seem to actually be planning on releasing it here, despite it being out and outselling Final Fantasy in Japan a long time ago!

Also, they completed Tales of Vesperia with all the characters and stuff, but they never brought it here.

It reminds me of the phoenix wright series. Already there are two entries to the series that aren't being brought here.

Square seemingly rarely brings things that aren't Final Fantasy here from Japan anymore. Things like Dragon Quest or Blood of Bahamut or Sigma Harmonics...

What gives? :|

Money.

It's just not profitable for them to bring the games over, so they don't. The target audience is just too small.

I have a theory.

A lot has changed over the past decade or so. In the past, games were simpler, technology restricted gameplay and artistic detail. So the kind of games you can create were limited and audiences just took what they could get.

With the improvement in tech, the kind of gameplay possible and the amount of detail that can be put into a game increased a lot. It's now possible to tune gameplay and art more specifically to an audience.

Due to difference in culture, the Japanese developers probably feel they can't compete with US developers on their home turf when it comes to tune content for the US market. They are not American, so they don't know how you guys think. All this is reflected in their balance sheets. While some like Capcom (Resident Evil) and Sega (Binary Domain) are trying their hand at American style games, most of the small developers can't afford to do so, so they just stop trying and just focus on the home market instead.

Simply put, it isn't the 90s anymore.

JRPGs needs to look at where's the money at: Dark Fantasy.

In such a case, you might as well play a WRPG.

 

[The_Merchant]

I am ashamed of all who seem to only mention JRPG when talking about Japan's games
Like the above guy mentioned they do OTHER games,not just ''generic fantasy [roman numeral]''
Americas biggest fighting game''Mortal Kombat''only exists because SF2 was booming back then
Japan also executed the third person shooter extremely well(RE4),Gears happened,which was topped by Vanquish for me
For me vanquish was the best 3rd person shooter ive played,it perfectly showed with the slide feature that high mobility more than makes up for lack of static cover
Then theres is Devil May Cry,which brought forth the(very QTE heavy) GoW series
Japan did more than,according to you,the''generic angsty teen JRPG''
#now know your place

Also Platinum Games

enough said

 

[LtFerret]

JRPGs needs to look at where's the money at: Dark Fantasy.

It worked for Demon's/Dark Souls

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

JRPGs needs to look at where's the money at: Dark Fantasy.

It worked for Demon's/Dark Souls

Exactly, people will more likely to look more leniently at a M Rated Game which attempts to exercise as much creative freedom as possible than some T rated JRPG. So for Final Fantasy to gain some of it's appeal back. It needs to be more like a dark fantasy and aim for the M Rating. I don't care how, just earn that rating sincerely and the reviewers will grovel at your feet again.

 

[Shia-Neko-Chan]

I think it's simple. When it comes to Final Fantasy, it doesn't need an M rating, actually. It needs an antagonist that instills fear the way Sephiroth or Kefka did back then.

Spoiler

waking up in Shinra headquarters to find the entire place covered in all of the business men's blood was a really amazing scene. Or seeing him smile and disappear into the darkness as an entire city burned down...

Seeing Sephiroth take out 10 story snakes that could easily kill you in one hit.

They need someone like that. Someone who is as sinister as the older antagonists. Someone you feel could take down the main characters at any moment for most of the story, but is a very real threat to the world as the characters know it.

FFXIII didn't have a main antagonist, which is a little disappointing, honestly. I liked the whole fighting your fate story they had going, but sinister protagonists works better as a story device, really.

 

[Vanilla_Druid]

Pretty much this. All people seem to write about is the "death of the JRPG" and how Japanese developers need to essentially clone western games to remain relevant. So why waste time, money, resources localizing games for a market who clearly despises them?

And that, my friends, is sad.

Believe it or not, bad reviews and poor community hurt games worse than "piracy" ever will. Hate, of games, is much more negative to them than playing them before buying them.

And I absolutely hate the current state of video games, industry and community. The jRPG is dying, and Westerners who hate anime are killing it! Every time a Western community decides jRPGs are inferior and jRPG fans are inferior, the jRPG dies a little more. Killing, my favourite genre of video game that I grew up on as a child.

Forget pirates, screw the people who are ostracizing and stigmatizing this whole genre in the West. I'm bitter about this. Because, because of people like this, not pirates, but all this hate, nobody in Japan wants to release games I'm dying to play in the West.

Because of y'all, not pointing this at anyone here, but the people who do this, the majority who do this, us "weeaboo ****** cunts" don't get to have more games we want to buy. And are forced to import games for around $90, buy and import more expensive systems because of region locking, and even learn a whole new language just to play a darn video game.

I feel for you. Granted I do not import stuff because I am too poor, but it is so frustrating that I have to do cartwheels in order to play games that are more (usually) cheerful and not not just varying shades of brown. I want my Fire Emblem.