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friedmetroid said:
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See I just felt like Kaidan's death would be more awesome, and I thought it was thoroughly bad ass in the end, besides, he asks you to leave him behind, whereas abandoning Ashley would have felt cruel.
Whenever someone says they picked Ashley... all I can think of is they just wanted the sex scene :\

She's one of the least developed characters I've ever seen in an RPG.
Hey I'll be honest, the only real reason I did it was for the chance to get it on with her. Although at the time I thought I'd have a chance to save Kaiden once I'd gotten to Ashley (surely they wouldn't kill off one of the main characters?) and then the place blew up along with Kaiden and I did feel an unexpected pang of guilt.

I should have known. Prior to that when Wrex got shot to death, Bioware proved to me they would indeed go there. Two down.
 
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tuglowz said:
THE DEATH OF BIG BOSS IN MGS4 - dam you finaly get to meet the guy again after waiting so long and they go and kill him of with foxdie come on the guy did not seam that bad and it really hit me hard when he was speaking to snake
THERE WILL ONLY EVER BE ONE BIG BOSS
After playing through MGS3: Snake Eater, I developed a real fondness for Big Boss. I was outraged when he (or what was left of him) died in MGS4. [POTENTIAL SPOILER] A bad day for Solid Snake when both his parents die.
 

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my most memorable death is for Warhammer Dawn of war when the librian turns out to be Chaos and you have to kill him.


And second. master chief, just being left in space.well i kinda think he desireved it for turning Halo 3 into a sub par shooter.


And yeah the ending for COD4 had me quite emotional and speechless for minutes
 

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The ending for COD4 AND the nuclear explosion both had me awe struck. And pissed off. More so with Gaz and the SAS team though (I am British).
 
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Indigo_Dingo said:
Programmed_For_Damage said:
After playing through MGS3: Snake Eater, I developed a real fondness for Big Boss. I was outraged when he (or what was left of him) died in MGS4. [POTENTIAL SPOILER] A bad day for Solid Snake when both his parents die.
What about that Japanese woman? He still has her.

I know the woman you are talking about; isn't she Solidus' mother or was it her DNA and that of Big Boss that comprises Solid Snake and Eva was just used as the surrogate? I get confused. I was trying to pay attention and my brother and his mate were crapping on over the cutscene. Maybe I should check out that MGS questions thread.
 

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I was caught off guard by the marine dying in COD4. When I had him crawling around in the debris, I kept saying: "No way, they can kill this guy. His levels are too good and action-packed. There's got to be a rescue chopper or something." Instead he dies slowly and horribly and alone. Normally I can see a plot twist in a game/movie coming from a mile away but this was a quick jab at my reasoning on how a game's plot should develop, making me like the game even more.
 

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ShyWinter said:
I was caught off guard by the marine dying in COD4. When I had him crawling around in the debris, I kept saying: "No way, they can kill this guy. His levels are too good and action-packed. There's got to be a rescue chopper or something." Instead he dies slowly and horribly and alone. Normally I can see a plot twist in a game/movie coming from a mile away but this was a quick jab at my reasoning on how a game's plot should develop, making me like the game even more.
When i first played through that plot twist i thought you had to use the radio to call for help
 

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friedmetroid said:
PedroSteckecilo said:
See I just felt like Kaidan's death would be more awesome, and I thought it was thoroughly bad ass in the end, besides, he asks you to leave him behind, whereas abandoning Ashley would have felt cruel.
Whenever someone says they picked Ashley... all I can think of is they just wanted the sex scene :\

She's one of the least developed characters I've ever seen in an RPG.
... Compared to what? What else have you played that you haven't seen anything more shallow than her? There are other characters in that very game that have less depth. Just because she doesn't have a the typical weepy melodramatic backstory/plot hook doesn't make her shallow. Maybe you're confused by the fact that she is the only vanilla unaugmented human in the cast? Everyone else is an alien or has psi-powers.

The fact that she didn't have the stock Bioware Henchman Fetch Quest makes her more interesting to me as well.

Losing Dogmeat in the Vats near the end of Fallout was always tough for me. I loved my dog.
 

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... Compared to what? What else have you played that you haven't seen anything more shallow than her? There are other characters in that very game that have less depth.
Other main characters in that game?

Yeah, no.

What the hell does Ashley ever do in the game?

What's your most memorable quote from Ashley?

I do admire Bioware for making her the hardcore military type instead of a generic blustering damsel in distress (like the Asari party member whose name I can't remember), but really... I never really felt like Ashley added much to the plot.

Of course that could be BioWare's fault for taking out the ability to speak to your party members in depth whenever you wanted to, which was one of my biggest gripes with ME.
 

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Lothar from War Craft II.

Alice and Timothy in Xenogears.

Huey and Rostam from Rudra's Treasure.

Lavitz =(.

Zack Fair. I'm getting the sniffles thinking about it.

Aeris' death hit me hard my first time....but after thinking about it I noticed how much it just HAD to happen.
 

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friedmetroid said:
Other main characters in that game?

Yeah, no.
Please tell me with a straight face that Tali was anything other than the tomboy princess, or that Garus wasn't just a young Dirty Harry in space.
What the hell does Ashley ever do in the game?
I'll admit that this I had to think about. I think she is a voice for humanity as a whole. Between Anderson and Udina's scheming with the aliens and Kaiden's seemingly apathetic assertions that you can't trust aliens but you can't trust people, either, Ash stressed the fact that the Council would only assist Earth when their interests overlapped but expected loyalty and service even when they did not. There was also the whole rescue thing on Eden which was required to make an emotional connection to what happened there.
What's your most memorable quote from Ashley?
Has to be her reciting poetry. It was just such an amusing quirk given the rest of her personality.
I do admire Bioware for making her the hardcore military type instead of a generic blustering damsel in distress (like the Asari party member whose name I can't remember), but really... I never really felt like Ashley added much to the plot.

Of course that could be BioWare's fault for taking out the ability to speak to your party members in depth whenever you wanted to, which was one of my biggest gripes with ME.
You do know that the way dialogue with your flunkies progressed was tied directly to plot events instead of the patently retarded 'have I gained a level since I've last spoken with them?' that they've used since NWN, yes? They really aren't all that different functionally. Or are you referring to the fact that you can only start an in depth conversation when you're on the Normandy?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems to me, based on what you've said, that you don't like her because she doesn't stand out from the rest of the cast, understandably since as I said earlier she's just a human and not that there was anything particularly wrong with the character.