Killzone 2 right game for PS3 but maybe wrong franchise?

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Indigo_Dingo said:
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ampa451 said:
i think its one of the games that is saving the PS3.
Was the PS3 ever dying?
No, but for some reason people continue to say it is, as this points out.
http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4554.html
I think everyone should read that article.
Sums up the situation pretty good!
 

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delta4062 said:
i went to the game store with my mate he preordered Halo Wars...and him and the guy at the counter were talking about how people STILL think its an FPS
Not surprising at all. I honestly expect there to be hundreds of returned copies at GameStop and related locations because fanboys will buy it because of the Halo name and be pissy that it "isn't a Halo game."


Anyway...seriously guys, WTF? Original topic anyone? Why is this spiraling down into yet another console flamewar?

Right now it seems that the instigators are a couple of 360 fanboys who are scared that Killzone 2 might provide competition for their precious Halo. There's a couple of Sony fanboys that are hyping it out of proportion, but they're relatively tame compared to the Microsoft fanboys. So there's a good-looking game coming out not for your system, so what? Maybe you should be happy that your opposite-console acquaintances now have a game that can compare to TEH AWESUMNSS TAHT IS HALO!!!!1!eleven1!!!

Note: I am a 360 owner. I owned a PS2 for 4 years, sold it this past summer, and got a 360 because I believed it to have the most staying power and a better game library. Killzone 2 and God of War 3 are the reasons I regret not having a PS3.
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
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I hated the first Killzone, and from what I've seen of this it looks like more of the same.
Anybody else get the idea that the Sony is trying too hard to get a good exclusive game?
Seeing as how they HAVE teh best exclusives no....but from all the videos ive seen no 1 shows gameplay of using the sights on your guns which looks like you NEED to.
Erm... Can you name any Sony exclusives that are better than the Microsoft equivalants?
Metal Gear Solid, God Of War, Gran Turismo, Singstar, Ratchet and Clank.....
Isn't that more of a matter of opinion?
 

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Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock (Months before PS3), Oblivion (Months before PS3)
etc. etc.

Anyway, I have a PS3 AND Xbox 360 and I like them equally.
 

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KayScaler said:
I disagree.
Even though Killzone didn't sell well it got great reviews.
I think it is a good franchise for the game!
What reviews did you read?! All the reviews I saw gave it 5-7, maybe one or two 8's. It's a mediocre shooter at best. Has a lot of great ideas (most of them poorly implemented), great animations, and great graphics (for the time), but the hardware couldn't keep up and the AI sucked. I liked it, but it isn't a great game. It's just average.
 

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sneak_copter said:
Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock (Months before PS3), Oblivion (Months before PS3)
etc. etc.

Anyway, I have a PS3 AND Xbox 360 and I like them equally.
if a game comes out late on a PS3 that doesn't make it 360 exclusive.
Especially when the two that you mention run better or have more content than the 360 versions!
 

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sneak_copter said:
Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock (Months before PS3), Oblivion (Months before PS3)
etc. etc.

Anyway, I have a PS3 AND Xbox 360 and I like them equally.
But Bioshock on the PS3 is better than it is on the 360. And it has DLC. No DLC on the 360.
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
KayScaler said:
I disagree.
Even though Killzone didn't sell well it got great reviews.
I think it is a good franchise for the game!
What reviews did you read?! All the reviews I saw gave it 5-7, maybe one or two 8's. It's a mediocre shooter at best. Has a lot of great ideas (most of them poorly implemented), great animations, and great graphics (for the time), but the hardware couldn't keep up and the AI sucked. I liked it, but it isn't a great game. It's just average.
I just meant that it is a well known franchise.
I didn't mean to say it had better reviews. My fault.
 

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sneak_copter said:
delta4062 said:
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I hated the first Killzone, and from what I've seen of this it looks like more of the same.
Anybody else get the idea that the Sony is trying too hard to get a good exclusive game?
Seeing as how they HAVE teh best exclusives no....but from all the videos ive seen no 1 shows gameplay of using the sights on your guns which looks like you NEED to.
Erm... Can you name any Sony exclusives that are better than the Microsoft equivalants?
Bioshock (better on the PS3, not a matter of opinion, it has more content), Resistance, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Warhawk, MGS4, SOCOM: Confrontation (admittedly not such a great game, but the 360 doesn't have any 16 vs 16 multiplayer games anyway so it wins by default), Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, inFamous, Uncharted, and Uncharted 2.
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
sneak_copter said:
delta4062 said:
sneak_copter said:
I hated the first Killzone, and from what I've seen of this it looks like more of the same.
Anybody else get the idea that the Sony is trying too hard to get a good exclusive game?
Seeing as how they HAVE teh best exclusives no....but from all the videos ive seen no 1 shows gameplay of using the sights on your guns which looks like you NEED to.
Erm... Can you name any Sony exclusives that are better than the Microsoft equivalants?
Bioshock (better on the PS3, not a matter of opinion, it has more content), Resistance, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Warhawk, MGS4, SOCOM: Confrontation (admittedly not such a great game, but the 360 doesn't have any 16 vs 16 multiplayer games anyway so it wins by default), Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, inFamous, Uncharted, and Uncharted 2.
You forgot Wipeout HD / Superstardust HD and various other PSN games!
 

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Firstly I think that while we are giving good topics about the game, people need to stop talking about it for Thor's sake. I thought gametrailers was the only place that had more than 10 killzone threads but now it's spreading to here (although GT had threads like 'ZOMG KZ2 HAS BETTOR GFX THAN CRYSIS' but still)

Oh well at least there is no flaming here, still perhaps going the way of GT and enforcing an embargo wouldn't be all bad.

Anywho back to topic.

This game will sell like crack and be the most successful game and franchise for the PS3.

It does not have a great deal of competition in the sense that there is not a game of it's genre coming out on the same platform, so it will be fine. I also think the first game was great, the only thing it didn't do right for me was the exclusion of local multiplayer, otherwise I think it was a great game. I don't have a PS3 but this game was one of the reasons I would buy one. Plus the amount of hype for this game means that every sony fanboy and his dog will be buying this, so it's past means nothing.

Long story short KZ2 will sell millions, Guerilla games will buy mars and sony will still be making a loss on each console.

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KayScaler said:
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You forgot Wipeout HD / Superstardust HD and various other PSN games!
I don't download too many PSN titles so I wouldn't really know. I've got a lot of stuff from the Xbox Live Arcade, but I don't use PSN to download games much. Xbox Live for games, PSN for movies.
 

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delta4062 said:
sneak_copter said:
Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock (Months before PS3), Oblivion (Months before PS3)
etc. etc.

Anyway, I have a PS3 AND Xbox 360 and I like them equally.
you only listed one exclusive their mate
Alright, I admit. I might have been a tad hasty to make my point so I didn't check anything.
I just flicked through all of the games that are in my Xbox 360 collection that arne't in my PS3 collection.

Sorry.
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
sneak_copter said:
delta4062 said:
sneak_copter said:
I hated the first Killzone, and from what I've seen of this it looks like more of the same.
Anybody else get the idea that the Sony is trying too hard to get a good exclusive game?
Seeing as how they HAVE teh best exclusives no....but from all the videos ive seen no 1 shows gameplay of using the sights on your guns which looks like you NEED to.
Erm... Can you name any Sony exclusives that are better than the Microsoft equivalants?
Bioshock (better on the PS3, not a matter of opinion, it has more content), Resistance, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet, Warhawk, MGS4, SOCOM: Confrontation (admittedly not such a great game, but the 360 doesn't have any 16 vs 16 multiplayer games anyway so it wins by default), Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, inFamous, Uncharted, and Uncharted 2.
Sorry to interrupt, but Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2 aren't even out yet, or inFamous for that matter, so how can you possibly know if they are better than anything?

Also he said exclusives, and Bioshock isn't an exclusive (even if it is superior to the 360 version)
 

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Indigo_Dingo said:
Metal Gear Solid, God Of War, Gran Turismo, Singstar, Ratchet and Clank.....
Not that I have much of a problem with most of those games (except for a preference to DMC over GoW), but... SINGSTAR? Seriously? My sister got that for PS2 and it is utter fail. Game doesn't even give you fair chance to learn the song, unlike Karaoke Revolution or Rock Band.

Back on topic... whether it was the wrong franchise a couple of years ago or not, at E3, people were hyping Killzone 2 as the "actual" Halo killer (as opposed to all those other Halo killers that failed to kill Halo). There's no way Sony's going to drop that hype with a name change. Though if it wants to kill Halo, it'd better have hammers that can send tanks flying or I'll be seriously disappointed. It's already got a -1 against killing Halo for not having bright colorful graphics and alien midgets running around.