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[tsolless]

theres a difference between bottling emotions and being able to manage them. bottling your emotions means you show none whatsoever until you have a nervous breakdown. managing your emotions means you can control yourself rather then let your emotions get the best of you. by the way i have no idea where you live at, cause when i was 14, i never saw any guys my age cry, outside of a funeral. i saw fear, i saw anger, i saw lots of emotions but crying just cause you hadn't seen a friend in a long time and didnt know if they were alive or dead and you just went through some crap yourself? not a chance. hell i remember running across a friend of mine that i thought killed himself and the first thing that ran through my mind was if he had the 20$ he owed me. but as i stated before, im from an older generation watching the nuts drop off of this generation.

shadowstriker's kind of a big deal.

edit:

Oh and your profile shows your birthdate. (February 16, 1986). Older generation my ass. Stop trying to be an internet tough guy and learn how to lie convincingly.

 

[Composer]

One thing I WILL say about KH is the plot is convoluted and retarded. But then i've only played the PS2 games, not the PSP ones. Making me buy a 2nd console to get the whole story = failure tactic of failure, Squeenix.

there are no psp KH games are there...??

 

[Amnestic]

One thing I WILL say about KH is the plot is convoluted and retarded. But then i've only played the PS2 games, not the PSP ones. Making me buy a 2nd console to get the whole story = failure tactic of failure, Squeenix.

there are no psp KH games are there...??

Not yet. Birth by Sleep is coming out 'soon' which is PSP exclusive.

With all due respect, what the hell are you talking about? There's nothing "emo" (Damn I HATE that word) about Kingdom Hearts. I don't know where you get that from.
As for why I enjoyed it, well I thought it had a very surprisingly deep story while at the same time getting in touch with that little kid inside me.

emo = sora crying when he sees riku in xenahort form. enough said.

That's not emo, that's called being human you nob! Geez the slightest displays of emotion do not make a character emo!

Seriously. It seems you can't have a person act like anything but a robot without being called "emo" these days. Cloud tries to hide his emotions and is "emo". Sora cries seeing his best friend, he has been looking for, after over a year and is "emo". Where do people draw the damn line?

They can't even to that, because emotionless robot characters are condemned as boring, uninteresting, and unable to connect with. There's no way to win, unless your character is an overly masculine shithouse that sweats testosterone, shits bullets, has unfeasibly huge shoulders, and an extremely tiny penis that he needs to compensate for with a gun bigger than the turret off a tank.

seriously do i have to explain everything? oy. 1st, yes the situation is emo because he cries like a pansy when he sees his friend and NOT the chick he (supposedly) has a crush on. 2nd, a person doesnt have to be a robot and emotionless to be considered interesting. I forgot that i live in an era where bad writing and flat characters are considered to be good story elements. Im not gonna turn this into like a massivly long text wall, but i'll give the best example i can come up with, Gran Torino. The entire movie Walt (Clint Eastwood's character) is a pissed off and bitter old guy. Throughout the whole movie he learns to not be such a dick and befriends the kid from next door and teaches him how to be a man. It isn't until 3/4 into the movie that something really messed up happens that sends him into a rage bender, and when he finishes, he barely lets a tear trickle. Good Writing + Character Development + Depth = Good Story. Flat characters + Bad writing = shitty story. You see where im goin with this?

I felt the scene was perfectly believable and NOT emo (I seriously want the punch the next person who uses that word). At the end of the first game, Sora knew Kairi was safe, but Riku's status was less certain, plus he's now bound in form of the villain from the last game; AND Sora's only like 13/14 so him getting a little choked up is not all that hard to believe.
Also your description of what you consider good character development only proves my point.

you're kidding right? what 13/14 yr old boy cries like that? or rather why would you consider sora not being a pussy? unless if riku got shot up like that guy from the first godfather movie and his heart exploded out of his chest at the same time he told him that he has pancreatic cancer just as he dies right in front of him, then MAYBE he's allowed to cry without lookin like a total pussy. But then i always forget that i grew up in a place where you only cried for 30 seconds at a funeral at most and then spent the rest of the time reliving memories and getting over it. But as i said, im from an older generation watchin everyones nuts fall off of this generation

All of them?
Because he's run around across dozens of world slaughtering huge fuckoff monsters with narry a backwards glance?

You're not impressing anyone by the way. Being able to bottle up your emotions so no one ever sees them isn't a huge thing to be proud of and in general makes for terrible storytelling because your characters come across as unemotional twatbags with the depth of a stick all in the name of 'appearing not like a pussy' (whatever that means).

theres a difference between bottling emotions and being able to manage them. bottling your emotions means you show none whatsoever until you have a nervous breakdown. managing your emotions means you can control yourself rather then let your emotions get the best of you. by the way i have no idea where you live at, cause when i was 14, i never saw any guys my age cry, outside of a funeral. i saw fear, i saw anger, i saw lots of emotions but crying just cause you hadn't seen a friend in a long time and didnt know if they were alive or dead and you just went through some crap yourself? not a chance. hell i remember running across a friend of mine that i thought killed himself and the first thing that ran through my mind was if he had the 20$ he owed me. but as i stated before, im from an older generation watching the nuts drop off of this generation.

You're four years older than me. That's not a "older generation" you tit. That's "slightly older". Tell me, how long has your subscription [http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/internet-tough-guy-magazine.gif] been running?

I grew up in Sheffield, England though I'm currently in Stockton-on-Tees attending my first year at University. Don't know why it matters where I grew up really, but there you go.

 

[digipinky75910]

Ah the difference between bottling your emotions and managing is those who bottle actually do *show* emotion eventually. Got it. Real men don't cry. Just like Chuck Norris.

And wow. I do hope you got your $20 back, cause clearly it was more important to you than your friend.

i saw fear, i saw anger, i saw lots of emotions but crying just cause you hadn't seen a friend in a long time and didnt know if they were alive or dead and you just went through some crap yourself?

Cause I'm sure that happens to you on a daily basis.

Anyway, I'd really rather not continue this anymore, because I pity your emotional immaturity.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

With all due respect, what the hell are you talking about? There's nothing "emo" (Damn I HATE that word) about Kingdom Hearts. I don't know where you get that from.
As for why I enjoyed it, well I thought it had a very surprisingly deep story while at the same time getting in touch with that little kid inside me.

emo = sora crying when he sees riku in xenahort form. enough said.

That's not emo, that's called being human you nob! Geez the slightest displays of emotion do not make a character emo!

Seriously. It seems you can't have a person act like anything but a robot without being called "emo" these days. Cloud tries to hide his emotions and is "emo". Sora cries seeing his best friend, he has been looking for, after over a year and is "emo". Where do people draw the damn line?

They can't even to that, because emotionless robot characters are condemned as boring, uninteresting, and unable to connect with. There's no way to win, unless your character is an overly masculine shithouse that sweats testosterone, shits bullets, has unfeasibly huge shoulders, and an extremely tiny penis that he needs to compensate for with a gun bigger than the turret off a tank.

seriously do i have to explain everything? oy. 1st, yes the situation is emo because he cries like a pansy when he sees his friend and NOT the chick he (supposedly) has a crush on. 2nd, a person doesnt have to be a robot and emotionless to be considered interesting. I forgot that i live in an era where bad writing and flat characters are considered to be good story elements. Im not gonna turn this into like a massivly long text wall, but i'll give the best example i can come up with, Gran Torino. The entire movie Walt (Clint Eastwood's character) is a pissed off and bitter old guy. Throughout the whole movie he learns to not be such a dick and befriends the kid from next door and teaches him how to be a man. It isn't until 3/4 into the movie that something really messed up happens that sends him into a rage bender, and when he finishes, he barely lets a tear trickle. Good Writing + Character Development + Depth = Good Story. Flat characters + Bad writing = shitty story. You see where im goin with this?

I felt the scene was perfectly believable and NOT emo (I seriously want the punch the next person who uses that word). At the end of the first game, Sora knew Kairi was safe, but Riku's status was less certain, plus he's now bound in form of the villain from the last game; AND Sora's only like 13/14 so him getting a little choked up is not all that hard to believe.
Also your description of what you consider good character development only proves my point.

you're kidding right? what 13/14 yr old boy cries like that? or rather why would you consider sora not being a pussy? unless if riku got shot up like that guy from the first godfather movie and his heart exploded out of his chest at the same time he told him that he has pancreatic cancer just as he dies right in front of him, then MAYBE he's allowed to cry without lookin like a total pussy. But then i always forget that i grew up in a place where you only cried for 30 seconds at a funeral at most and then spent the rest of the time reliving memories and getting over it. But as i said, im from an older generation watchin everyones nuts fall off of this generation

Older generation my ass! I'm older then you, so don't give me that! But I'm tired of discussing this. Go back to your generic tiny penis space marines if that's what amuses you.

 

[C117]

To each his own? People like different things. Best to ignore and move on.

Seconded.

 

[shadowstriker86]

One thing I WILL say about KH is the plot is convoluted and retarded. But then i've only played the PS2 games, not the PSP ones. Making me buy a 2nd console to get the whole story = failure tactic of failure, Squeenix.

there are no psp KH games are there...??

Not yet. Birth by Sleep is coming out 'soon' which is PSP exclusive.

With all due respect, what the hell are you talking about? There's nothing "emo" (Damn I HATE that word) about Kingdom Hearts. I don't know where you get that from.
As for why I enjoyed it, well I thought it had a very surprisingly deep story while at the same time getting in touch with that little kid inside me.

emo = sora crying when he sees riku in xenahort form. enough said.

That's not emo, that's called being human you nob! Geez the slightest displays of emotion do not make a character emo!

Seriously. It seems you can't have a person act like anything but a robot without being called "emo" these days. Cloud tries to hide his emotions and is "emo". Sora cries seeing his best friend, he has been looking for, after over a year and is "emo". Where do people draw the damn line?

They can't even to that, because emotionless robot characters are condemned as boring, uninteresting, and unable to connect with. There's no way to win, unless your character is an overly masculine shithouse that sweats testosterone, shits bullets, has unfeasibly huge shoulders, and an extremely tiny penis that he needs to compensate for with a gun bigger than the turret off a tank.

seriously do i have to explain everything? oy. 1st, yes the situation is emo because he cries like a pansy when he sees his friend and NOT the chick he (supposedly) has a crush on. 2nd, a person doesnt have to be a robot and emotionless to be considered interesting. I forgot that i live in an era where bad writing and flat characters are considered to be good story elements. Im not gonna turn this into like a massivly long text wall, but i'll give the best example i can come up with, Gran Torino. The entire movie Walt (Clint Eastwood's character) is a pissed off and bitter old guy. Throughout the whole movie he learns to not be such a dick and befriends the kid from next door and teaches him how to be a man. It isn't until 3/4 into the movie that something really messed up happens that sends him into a rage bender, and when he finishes, he barely lets a tear trickle. Good Writing + Character Development + Depth = Good Story. Flat characters + Bad writing = shitty story. You see where im goin with this?

I felt the scene was perfectly believable and NOT emo (I seriously want the punch the next person who uses that word). At the end of the first game, Sora knew Kairi was safe, but Riku's status was less certain, plus he's now bound in form of the villain from the last game; AND Sora's only like 13/14 so him getting a little choked up is not all that hard to believe.
Also your description of what you consider good character development only proves my point.

you're kidding right? what 13/14 yr old boy cries like that? or rather why would you consider sora not being a pussy? unless if riku got shot up like that guy from the first godfather movie and his heart exploded out of his chest at the same time he told him that he has pancreatic cancer just as he dies right in front of him, then MAYBE he's allowed to cry without lookin like a total pussy. But then i always forget that i grew up in a place where you only cried for 30 seconds at a funeral at most and then spent the rest of the time reliving memories and getting over it. But as i said, im from an older generation watchin everyones nuts fall off of this generation

All of them?
Because he's run around across dozens of world slaughtering huge fuckoff monsters with narry a backwards glance?

You're not impressing anyone by the way. Being able to bottle up your emotions so no one ever sees them isn't a huge thing to be proud of and in general makes for terrible storytelling because your characters come across as unemotional twatbags with the depth of a stick all in the name of 'appearing not like a pussy' (whatever that means).

theres a difference between bottling emotions and being able to manage them. bottling your emotions means you show none whatsoever until you have a nervous breakdown. managing your emotions means you can control yourself rather then let your emotions get the best of you. by the way i have no idea where you live at, cause when i was 14, i never saw any guys my age cry, outside of a funeral. i saw fear, i saw anger, i saw lots of emotions but crying just cause you hadn't seen a friend in a long time and didnt know if they were alive or dead and you just went through some crap yourself? not a chance. hell i remember running across a friend of mine that i thought killed himself and the first thing that ran through my mind was if he had the 20$ he owed me. but as i stated before, im from an older generation watching the nuts drop off of this generation.

You're four years older than me. That's not a "older generation" you tit. That's "slightly older". Tell me, how long has your subscription [http://www.joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/internet-tough-guy-magazine.gif] been running?

I grew up in Sheffield, England though I'm currently in Stockton-on-Tees attending my first year at University. Don't know why it matters where I grew up really, but there you go.

i probably shouldve specified older mentality. and yes it does matter where you grew up because of culture, and if you looked at my profile you probably noticed that im in america and therefore our perspectives are defined by our 2 cultures. humanities 101, take it sometime while you're in college.

 

[shadowstriker86]

theres a difference between bottling emotions and being able to manage them. bottling your emotions means you show none whatsoever until you have a nervous breakdown. managing your emotions means you can control yourself rather then let your emotions get the best of you. by the way i have no idea where you live at, cause when i was 14, i never saw any guys my age cry, outside of a funeral. i saw fear, i saw anger, i saw lots of emotions but crying just cause you hadn't seen a friend in a long time and didnt know if they were alive or dead and you just went through some crap yourself? not a chance. hell i remember running across a friend of mine that i thought killed himself and the first thing that ran through my mind was if he had the 20$ he owed me. but as i stated before, im from an older generation watching the nuts drop off of this generation.

shadowstriker's kind of a big deal.

edit:

Oh and your profile shows your birthdate. (February 16, 1986). Older generation my ass. Stop trying to be an internet tough guy and learn how to lie convincingly.

2nd time havin to say that i shouldve specified older mentality.

 

[Nullphantom]

but that's just my opinion.

Exactly why people some like Kingdom Hearts and some don't. People have their own opinions. I personally love the game since the combat is simple, it has good Disney characters, and the story is actually interesting.

 

[NeutralDrow]

i probably shouldve specified older mentality. and yes it does matter where you grew up because of culture, and if you looked at my profile you probably noticed that im in america and therefore our perspectives are defined by our 2 cultures. humanities 101, take it sometime while you're in college.

As a college-going American your age, I still think you're full of it.

EDIT: Wait, this has gone on a surprisingly long time, and the absurd lengths...dammit. I fell for another troll, didn't I? I thought Kukul or whatever his name was would be the last one...

 

[tsolless]

2nd time havin to say that i shouldve specified older mentality.

Do people with an older mentality spend nearly 1500 hours playing WoW?

http://www.xfire.com/profile/shadowstriker86/

Really though people like you love to imagine that they are one step higher above everyone else and so much more mature and intelligent. The fact is that you are probably not and bragging about how you wouldn't cry when you were 14 if you went through the things that happened in a fictional video game isn't impressing anyone.

Also the name shadowstriker86 doesn't ring of mental maturity to me and your posts do not show it either.

 

[Space Spoons]

I can't decide which kind of thread is more annoying, "why liek kingdom harts" or "OMG HULO SUX".

People like it because they think it's fun, the exact same reason you like ODST. Quit being such a killjoy.

 

[shadowstriker86]

With all due respect, what the hell are you talking about? There's nothing "emo" (Damn I HATE that word) about Kingdom Hearts. I don't know where you get that from.
As for why I enjoyed it, well I thought it had a very surprisingly deep story while at the same time getting in touch with that little kid inside me.

emo = sora crying when he sees riku in xenahort form. enough said.

That's not emo, that's called being human you nob! Geez the slightest displays of emotion do not make a character emo!

Seriously. It seems you can't have a person act like anything but a robot without being called "emo" these days. Cloud tries to hide his emotions and is "emo". Sora cries seeing his best friend, he has been looking for, after over a year and is "emo". Where do people draw the damn line?

They can't even to that, because emotionless robot characters are condemned as boring, uninteresting, and unable to connect with. There's no way to win, unless your character is an overly masculine shithouse that sweats testosterone, shits bullets, has unfeasibly huge shoulders, and an extremely tiny penis that he needs to compensate for with a gun bigger than the turret off a tank.

seriously do i have to explain everything? oy. 1st, yes the situation is emo because he cries like a pansy when he sees his friend and NOT the chick he (supposedly) has a crush on. 2nd, a person doesnt have to be a robot and emotionless to be considered interesting. I forgot that i live in an era where bad writing and flat characters are considered to be good story elements. Im not gonna turn this into like a massivly long text wall, but i'll give the best example i can come up with, Gran Torino. The entire movie Walt (Clint Eastwood's character) is a pissed off and bitter old guy. Throughout the whole movie he learns to not be such a dick and befriends the kid from next door and teaches him how to be a man. It isn't until 3/4 into the movie that something really messed up happens that sends him into a rage bender, and when he finishes, he barely lets a tear trickle. Good Writing + Character Development + Depth = Good Story. Flat characters + Bad writing = shitty story. You see where im goin with this?

I felt the scene was perfectly believable and NOT emo (I seriously want the punch the next person who uses that word). At the end of the first game, Sora knew Kairi was safe, but Riku's status was less certain, plus he's now bound in form of the villain from the last game; AND Sora's only like 13/14 so him getting a little choked up is not all that hard to believe.
Also your description of what you consider good character development only proves my point.

you're kidding right? what 13/14 yr old boy cries like that? or rather why would you consider sora not being a pussy? unless if riku got shot up like that guy from the first godfather movie and his heart exploded out of his chest at the same time he told him that he has pancreatic cancer just as he dies right in front of him, then MAYBE he's allowed to cry without lookin like a total pussy. But then i always forget that i grew up in a place where you only cried for 30 seconds at a funeral at most and then spent the rest of the time reliving memories and getting over it. But as i said, im from an older generation watchin everyones nuts fall off of this generation

Older generation my ass! I'm older then you, so don't give me that! But I'm tired of discussing this. Go back to your generic tiny penis space marines if that's what amuses you.

3rd time havin to say i shouldve specified older mentality. generic tiny penis space marines comment? coming from a guy who has a dbz avatar? wow, ok, so apparently you're assuming that just because i call someone a pussy for crying like a damn pansy = i like halo/gears of war. learn not to assume and learn to read. had you actually read what i posted you wouldve seen that i enjoy good storytelling, not just mindless (not to mention boring gameplay) action. last good fps i played that had a good storyline? Half-Life 2. And i dont remember Gordon Freeman or any other male character crying in that game do you? Wait a tick, my bs sense is tingling....age difference you say? Ok, ever seen the Goonies? Probably not, but i'll drive the point. A group of kids more than likely younger than sora, get chased by criminals out to kill them manage to barely escape several death traps, reunite with their parents AND manage to save their town from being bought out. And not 1 single solitary tear at that final scene.

 

[NeutralDrow]

A group of kids more than likely younger than sora, get chased by criminals out to kill them manage to barely escape several death traps, reunite with their parents AND manage to save their town from being bought out. And not 1 single solitary tear at that final scene.

*sigh* I know it's just furthering the trolling, but I still need to bring up Flight of the Navigator.

 

[Jonci]

i probably shouldve specified older mentality. and yes it does matter where you grew up because of culture, and if you looked at my profile you probably noticed that im in america and therefore our perspectives are defined by our 2 cultures. humanities 101, take it sometime while you're in college.

I am an American-born and American-college educated career man, five years older than you. In my educated opinion, are you an idiot.

Don't go around claiming to be "mentality older" for being American and putting your concept of emotional stability as the general option of someone from the US. Sora's crying matched HIS personality and background. Just because you didn't have a reason to cry as a young teen doesn't mean that it is wrong for someone else to cry. Sora hadn't seen his best friend in over a year and you expect them to just go "Hey, man. Where ya been?" and move on? Sora's motivation was to find Riku the entire time. Rika wanted both his friends back in his life, and at times Sora thought that Riku was lost to him forever. He cried because he was happy, a natural emotional response.

Why don't you go back to college and take Psychology 101?

 

[tsolless]

3rd time havin to say i shouldve specified older mentality. generic tiny penis space marines comment? coming from a guy who has a dbz avatar? wow, ok, so apparently you're assuming that just because i call someone a pussy for crying like a damn pansy = i like halo/gears of war. learn not to assume and learn to read. had you actually read what i posted you wouldve seen that i enjoy good storytelling, not just mindless (not to mention boring gameplay) action. last good fps i played that had a good storyline? Half-Life 2. And i dont remember Gordon Freeman or any other male character crying in that game do you? Wait a tick, my bs sense is tingling....age difference you say? Ok, ever seen the Goonies? Probably not, but i'll drive the point. A group of kids more than likely younger than sora, get chased by criminals out to kill them manage to barely escape several death traps, reunite with their parents AND manage to save their town from being bought out. And not 1 single solitary tear at that final scene.

You're basing what a fictional character in a fictional video game should do based off of fictional characters in a fictional movie?

My god are you dense.

Maybe you should become a paramedic. You would be surprised at the age of people who begin crying from difficult circumstances, especially people who are young teenagers. Or study psychology or something. Stop basing what you think people should do off of video games, movies, or your own limited experiences.

 

[shadowstriker86]

2nd time havin to say that i shouldve specified older mentality.

Do people with an older mentality spend nearly 1500 hours playing WoW?

http://www.xfire.com/profile/shadowstriker86/

Really though people like you love to imagine that they are one step higher above everyone else and so much more mature and intelligent. The fact is that you are probably not and bragging about how you wouldn't cry when you were 14 if you went through the things that happened in a fictional video game isn't impressing anyone.


Also the name shadowstriker86 doesn't ring of mental maturity to me and your posts do not show it either.

so what if i play WoW? it's fun! you know what fun is dont you? and whoever said that a screen name in an online forum had to reflect your maturity level? granted i dont claim to ever be the smartest guy on the planet, but at the same time, most people do agree that the one scene when sora cries after he sees riku, is really really gay.

 

[NeutralDrow]

I have to assume this. The alternative is just too hilarious to contemplate.

 

[rokkolpo]

well i grew up disney was all around me. tv, videotapes, kid books. so it,s a great treat having it come back to you when you.re older.

youre probably too young too understand that(making phrases as ''emo'').
so i don,t blame you for not having taste.