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Josh Kurber

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Alright, well I have been in love with the Kingdom HEarts games since they came out... sorta. I was reluctant to play at first in fear of the Disney Characters making it so childish. And that's not completely true. I actually enjoyed kicking ass with Donald and Goofy, and Sora is such an amazing protagonist. Hot too xDD. And they announced there will be a third one with Sora as the main character still (YAAY!!! :DDD) But won't be released until 2012 >_<

Anyways, I have played these games several times, but am still wondering. Did Riku ever become a heartless, or did he just embrace Ansem into his body? This is what confuses me, because I thought it once said Riku became a heartless. If so, where is his Nobody? Because a Nobody of Riku would rock the shit out of the KH world AND Sora lol. Since Riku was always the strongest one xDD
 

Julianking93

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No. Riku never became a heartless.

Ansem just possessed him.

And spoiler alert in the title at least please.
 

JWRosser

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To be honest I disliked Donald and Goofy. Mainly Goofy - at least Donald could heal. I always traded Goofy out for any guest character.
 

Josh Kurber

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There were some Guest characters I couldn't stand. But I always used Auron when I could. I usually traded out Donald, for my games, because he could get obnoxious >_<

I am just glad they changed Atlantis around in KH2, because I hated that level in the first game >_<
 

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Josh Kurber said:
I am just glad they changed Atlantis around in KH2, because I hated that level in the first game >_<
It was worse in the second game I thought...and it was bad enough in the first.
I hated the singing haha...apart from the actual Little Mermaid songs. But the others were just so...horrible...especially the last one which I don't think you can even call a song!
 

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I didn´t like Atlantis in KH2. It his a game, a good game, Not a FUCKING MUSICAL!
 

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Josh Kurber said:
There were some Guest characters I couldn't stand. But I always used Auron when I could. I usually traded out Donald, for my games, because he could get obnoxious >_<

I am just glad they changed Atlantis around in KH2, because I hated that level in the first game >_<
I'm not surprised; Auron was practically the only real badass in FFX.

As for Atlantica, at least in the first game it made sense in terms of the plot. (I think, I still haven't finished it.) In KH2 it was essentially a loosely strung together sequence of QTEs and the whole world itself is skippable.
 

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By the way, It wasn´t Ansem that possessed Riku. It was the Heartless of Xeranhot, Ansem´s apprendice.
 

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Josh Kurber said:
Did Riku ever become a heartless, or did he just embrace Ansem into his body? This is what confuses me, because I thought it once said Riku became a heartless. If so, where is his Nobody?
I always kind of thought Axel might be Riku's Nobody. It really reflected in his relationship with Roxas, the "older brother" type friendship that Sora and Riku share.
 

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BishopOfBattle said:
Josh Kurber said:
Did Riku ever become a heartless, or did he just embrace Ansem into his body? This is what confuses me, because I thought it once said Riku became a heartless. If so, where is his Nobody?
I always kind of thought Axel might be Riku's Nobody. It really reflected in his relationship with Roxas, the "older brother" type friendship that Sora and Riku share.
I remember when KH2 first came out everyone speculated that Reno (FF7) would appear in this game or the next due to his similarities to Axel (red hair, similar personalities, 4 letter name, same voice actor etc etc) so a lot of people thought he had turned into a heartless and Axel was his Nobody.
 

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JamesStone said:
If you want to now that, why don´t you play again with more attencion? I have the game, and in the moment that I played a second time, I understand all! So you are a lazy dick, or just a retard?
You know, no one is in here picking on your sub-par spelling/grammar because there's a chance that English is not your first language. So why do you have to go and call the OP a lazy dick or a retard just because he missed a few points or didn't understand a few points that you did happen to catch/understand?


OT: I'll have to agree that Riku never went Heartless. The only thing special about Riku is that he was meant to be the Keyblade (master?), but by letting his heart fall to darkness, paved the way for Sora to become that.
 

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Josh Kurber said:
I am just glad they changed Atlantis around in KH2, because I hated that level in the first game >_<
i really do hope that this is sarcasm, or you are mixing up which one is from which game. though, admittedly, neither of them were particularly nice levels, at least i didn't have to mute my television to resist tearing out my (and anyone-else-nearby's) cochlea(s) in fury... having to play a singing and dancing QTE... on a game... thats for 12 year olds and up...

Lost Cause said:
the whole world itself is skippable.
WHAAAAT!? Really?... so i put myself through that hell... so many times for no reason!? i think i'm going to cry, i'm not sure if its out of happiness or shame though. thankyou for telling me.
wait... i'd have needed to do it in order to 100% complete it anyway... so i'd have only delayed the inevitable.

On topic of Riku, its more that he just gained the power that Darkness had to offer, becoming a true badass... who wore a skirt :p silly Riku, those paperclips were so not worth having to wear the dress. (obscure, yet hilarious flash animation reference).
and related but kinda offtopic, how many people have been turned into heartless (and thus Nobodys)!? i swear i must have killed hundreds of thousands (not quite in the millions, even including all the handheld editions). by the way, this isn't really a question, because i do know that countless worlds have been swallowed by the darkness with only a few strong hearts surviving... and we can assume that such worlds have larger populations than just the few tens of characters we see in the Disney Movies.
 

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No, Riku never became a heartless. He was just possessed by Ansem (Or Xehanort if you want to get technical). Which I actually find ironic. Riku was the one who most used the darkness yet never became a heartless. However, Sora did and Kairi also lost her heart to make a Nobody. Man the series is confusing as hell yet still so awesome.
 

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Josh Kurber said:
I am just glad they changed Atlantis around in KH2, because I hated that level in the first game >_<
You liked "Finny fun?" I personally preferred Atlantis in the first one. At least there was actual stuff going on and not a bunch of musical numbers, which are completely skippable making the entire world kinda pointless story-wise.
 

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Well, yes, you COULD skip Atlantica, but the only reason to do it was to get the spell from completing it AND for the Ultimate Keyblade ingredients. Which, honestly, was worth it in my opinion lol.

But what bugs me is how you get the Final Form when you get to the final boss... Can't even use it against the boss... where is the point in that? Although it was really fun when collecting ingredients.
 

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BishopOfBattle said:
Josh Kurber said:
Did Riku ever become a heartless, or did he just embrace Ansem into his body? This is what confuses me, because I thought it once said Riku became a heartless. If so, where is his Nobody?
I always kind of thought Axel might be Riku's Nobody. It really reflected in his relationship with Roxas, the "older brother" type friendship that Sora and Riku share.
Well, actually, I am sure you noticed this but all of the Nobodies had the same letters and names as their original host, just jumbled up and with an X in it. So i was looking for someone with Riku's letters but never found one.

He would have made an amazing Nobody, don't you think?

And am I the only one? Or did anyone else scramble Xemnas' name and get mansex? O_O
 

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Blackmagic1515 said:
No, Riku never became a heartless. He was just possessed by Ansem (Or Xehanort if you want to get technical). Which I actually find ironic. Riku was the one who most used the darkness yet never became a heartless. However, Sora did and Kairi also lost her heart to make a Nobody. Man the series is confusing as hell yet still so awesome.
Amen, brother lol. The game was so awesome, and so was Riku. He never really was used to his full potential. The final boss fight though was wicked, yeah? Sora and Riku going all Jedi with the beams and everything xDD

I just hated how in this game the combat was made so easy. All you really had to use was the Triangle button for every boss and BAM, done.
 

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Josh Kurber said:
Blackmagic1515 said:
No, Riku never became a heartless. He was just possessed by Ansem (Or Xehanort if you want to get technical). Which I actually find ironic. Riku was the one who most used the darkness yet never became a heartless. However, Sora did and Kairi also lost her heart to make a Nobody. Man the series is confusing as hell yet still so awesome.
Amen, brother lol. The game was so awesome, and so was Riku. He never really was used to his full potential. The final boss fight though was wicked, yeah? Sora and Riku going all Jedi with the beams and everything xDD

I just hated how in this game the combat was made so easy. All you really had to use was the Triangle button for every boss and BAM, done.
I think you mean Amen sister, but I'll let it slide =p But I agree, Riku needed far more screen time, you never got a chance to truely let him shine. The same can be said for Demyx. He would have made such a fantastic villian.
 

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I want to know who namine is, what Sora did between the two games. I know he killed a bunch of orginization 13, but what was he trying to do? One more question, was Roxas' life just part of a computor program Ansem made? That part still confuses me :p