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Burst6 said:
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An innate sense of self-superiority? That sounds suspiciously like religious drivel. Humans used to believe that their world was the center of the universe, too. You know how that worked out?

A larger intellect doesn't equate to better. It just means more powerful.
Define better.

It's such a big word, better. It could mean anything. How would you objectively compare two animals and pick the better one?

I say humans are better because we pretty much took over the world. Well the dry parts of the world anyway. The natural world rewards power. Survival of the fittest and all that.
Mental Note: Prepare full-scale assault on natural world. These lesser beings must be shown the glory of the Human Dominion.

Side Note: Stay away from oceans. Too many sharks and giant squids. The Human Dominion is strong, not stupid.
 

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Im sure we can find some use for it now and look on the bright side:



*badum tss*
Please be Photo-shopped.
Its not. If i remember the story correctly, the owner of the cat loved it so much that after it died, he decided to stuff it and turn it into a flying quadcopter.
Wait...so that's a DEAD cat in the picture?

...that picture went from uncomfortably amusing to downright terrifying. The man has a twisted idea of "love". My family loves me...and I can tell you that their funeral plans do not include having me stripped, stuffed, and strung onto helicopter blades and flown through the streets...

...actually, uh...better check on that.
 

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If I saw someone trying to bury a kitten alive in concrete I am pretty sure I would beat them over the head with a lead pipe. Just sayn'.
 

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God this kind of crap pisses me of, if this was intentional then let the fucker burn.
For those arguing about witch species is superior, life is life, dose it really matter.

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I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
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are you kidding? animals are cruel and sadistic cunts....they also destroy the environemtn like a cancar if they are a noxious species (granted some of that is due to human error but I havnt seen any cain toads go "hey guys...mabye we should be nicer to the natves")

animals are not better than us...or worse because you simply cannot apply morality to them
But by extension you also can't applie characteristics like 'cruel' or 'sadistic'.
Rarely do animals do things out of spite.

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Plus who cares , it's an animal .
Thats pretty messed up, it's a living creature, just like you.
Humans will always survive and endure, the things that are around at the same time as use, not so much.
 

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Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
We aren't destroying the planet. The planet is doing fine as it always has.
What, do you think a couple of plastic bags or global warming are going to make the earth blow up and turn into rubble?
No, what we're doing is making the planet inhospitable for ourselves.
Our planet is going to endure long after we are gone. When the sun grows to such a level that the earth is heated so much it's basically covered in lava like Venus or something, the planet will still be doing fine.
We're fucked

And actually, animals are fucking dicks. Dolphins, for example, both rape and kill for sport.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom_p2.html

Don't go around saying we're shittier than other animals.
I kinda think we are shittier, though, because 'we' should know better. Big brains and all that.

And we are ruining the conditions for life on this planet- though you are correct, the planet will still be here, it won't support the current diversity of life much longer, and it does seem like we are a direct cause.

On topic, to willingly torture any living thing is a despicable act.
 

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I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
You know, counting to ten has never really helped me deal with my anger. I suppose the reason was always because I really, really hated numbers and having to count them whenever I was angry was kind of like pouring salt on an open wound. I'm not too sure how well I handle my anger, but not too long ago I made a promise that I'd be a nicer person, even online. Still, There are about three issues that piss me off. What this thread is based around is the first of the three and exactly what you said is the second. So, to put this as politely as possible: I'm extremely pissed off. Here's to hoping that I won't be a dick.

I never cared about the notion of 'helping animals second and humans first' because what it really translates to is 'lets not even bother with the animals' And well, I've never quite agreed to that reasoning. Man isn't above beast, man is beast. This is irrefutable no matter how many theories we come up with, no matter how many abstract ideas we invent, or how many skyscrapers we build. We do what we can to survive, and we fuck. Not a whole lot else happens outside of us being smarter. The reason why we look to end suffering isn't based around someone's worth or because of their contribution; but solely because they can feel pain and we should look towards ending it. Intelligence and worth is irrelevant.

Ultimately though, I think it speaks of just how much we really deserve to be helped and saved when we refuse to help other creatures on the basis that we see them beneath us. Imagine a doctor deciding not to help you because you're not quite as smart as them, or perhaps because they consider you to be beneath them. Would that ever make any sense either?

No, it wouldn't. And the sad truth is no matter how much an animal is beneath you and how much a human life may be more valuable than an animals (which it isn't because worth is completely subjective)by that logic, there will always be someone smarter than you, someone more valuable than you. And these people, will be far more entitled to being helped and saved than you.
 

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krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
Crap on that. Animals are incapable of malice and evil. Humans revel in it. Why should we help/save a species that's even capable of dreaming up this sort of twisted shit?
 

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Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
Your right we should all kill ourselves, you go first.
 

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Why? Did god tell you that?
Why are you so insistent on religion here? I said nothing about my faith, and it isn't at all relevant.

It took just as long for the cat to evolve into what it is as it did for you to evolve from primordial monkeys.
Therefore we're equals...? Okay.

You explain exactly why a human life is more valuable than any other life on this earth, and maybe we can get somewhere.
We're self aware, for one thing. Do cats even develop personalities at all comparable to the way we do? Do they experience emotions on a level even nearing that of a human being? They run solely on instinct and are incapable of reason. I love animals and cruelty towards them is disgusting to me, but if in some bizarre scenario I had the choice between all the adorable kittens in the world and a single human life, the kittens gotta go.
Wait... you'd sacrifice ALL kittens for one person?!? Woah...

I can see the argument that a human life is worth more than an animal's life- part of that attitude comes from our innate need to protect our own, part of it stems from our sense of superiority, whther deserved or not- but to kill all kittens for one person is overwhelming... I think I'd have to save the kittens, personally, but it's an intruiging scenario, to say the least!
 

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Paladin Anderson said:
krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
Actually I'd save an animal over a person I don't know. It would be different if I knew the person, yeah, and I would never put the person in danger to begin with, I'm not a sociopath. But I've been put through too much crap by people, and watched too much Fox News, to feel any value in human existence in general.
I would never hurt an animal for no reason but what you said is unbelievable...your not allowed to be a human anymore.
 

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Wow... this story is depressing. Especially after my recent and rather absurd run-in with a stray kitten. I'm happy to say that my story didn't end on a low note like this one.

The thing is, I was out with a couple of friends one night, and we were taking a break and had decided to go to the local store for some nourishment. We left my car behind and rode in my friend's car, and when we got back we were getting back to business when we started hearing a quiet meow every now and then. It sounded like it was coming from my car, and sure enough, we found a tiny kitten curled around the axle of my front-left wheel. Having not heard anything before we left, my guess is the little cat just crawled up and curled around the axle while we were gone. So then we jacked up the car and lifted the little thing up and around the axle, and took her to an animal shelter. Last I heard she was healthy, and was adopted a couple weeks later.

No injuries, no deaths. Then you hear stories like this and that little high you got from saving a kitten is plummeted straight into the ground.
 

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I have never quite wanted to jam a pickaxe in some people's heads quite so much. Why did they pick a kitten that had absolutely nothing to do with the situation? Obviously some of this cult's members need to be cleared out.
 

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JESUS CHRIST! As if I needed yet another reason to dislike people...! I hope they find the people responsible, and throw the book at them. Preferably, a bit heavy book. With an iron cover with poison-tipped spikes.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go find my kity
I did the exact same thing. Went and pet my cat.
 

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How do you know what goes on in a kitten's brain? I don't have a cat at the moment, but the ones I've seen seem pretty expressive. Like that kitten in the video. It was obviously terrified and in pain.
All you're doing is anthropomorphizing its instinctual actions. It isn't experiencing any such emotion as terror, and puppies don't lick our faces because they love us.
 

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All you're doing is anthropomorphizing its instinctual actions. It isn't experiencing any such emotion as terror, and puppies don't lick our faces because they love us.
Gotta call bull on this. Animals are supposed to feel fear, it's hardwired into all of us. An antelope is supposed to be afraid of a lion, that's why they shit themselves and run the moment they even think they see something fishy. Fear is one of the most basic instincts that there is.


Also, licking is a sign of affection that can be viewed within the animal kingdom as well as the average home. Some might call it love, depends on how strongly you view a word like that.
 

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Cakes said:
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How do you know what goes on in a kitten's brain? I don't have a cat at the moment, but the ones I've seen seem pretty expressive. Like that kitten in the video. It was obviously terrified and in pain.
All you're doing is anthropomorphizing its instinctual actions. It isn't experiencing any such emotion as terror, and puppies don't lick our faces because they love us.
But pain is universally instinctual, isn't it? If an animal cries out when hurt, isn't that as much a sign that it is in pain as, say, someONE crying out when hurt? If it would hurt you, you probably shouldn't do it to other living things, I think.

Why do puppies lick faces- is it to recognise our scent?
 

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krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
Well aren't you just a cheerful person.
 

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How do you know what goes on in a kitten's brain? I don't have a cat at the moment, but the ones I've seen seem pretty expressive. Like that kitten in the video. It was obviously terrified and in pain.
I'm pretty sure they have tests that determine self-awareness. The mirror test is one I know of. Most animals don't pass it, when even a newborn human baby can. It's not exact, but it's evidence.

Fact of the matter is, animals aren't intelligent. They aren't people. There is no other perspective to look at this from but the human one, because it's the only perspective with any meaning to us. And animals can absolutely destroy when given the opportunity. There are a number of species that are royally fucking up the environments they inhabit because that's what they do, and they don't care at all because they can't comprehend anything greater than their survival instinct. Humans may destroy the environment and each other, but we also try to fix it when it happens, which is a LOT more than you can say for literally any other animal. We are better than them.
 

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targren said:
krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
Crap on that. Animals are incapable of malice and evil. Humans revel in it. Why should we help/save a species that's even capable of dreaming up this sort of twisted shit?
That's only because they don't know what those are. an animal wouldn't go out of it's way to save the kitten unless they wanted to eat it