Kitten found buried alive in concrete.

[royohz]

We're destroying the planet?

Yes. Yes, we are. And yes, the earth has been through worse than us. We're not actually destroying the planet as much as we are screwing ourselves over. That's the problem. Whenever someone says we're destroying the planet, they mean it as a warning that if we keep it up, we won't be able to live here anymore. So many people just can't figure that one out.

OT: That is probably one of the sickest things I've heard all year. We are all animals and we are not any better or worth more than any other species.

 

[CarlMin]

I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?

You do realize you're an animal too right? You're a mammal. Just because you have higher thinking skills doesn't make you somehow better than that kitten.

I cut out the rage parts because I can understand it and can sympathize, but this sentence is just... ewww. Humans are certainly better than every other animal; it's why we're at the top of the food chain. Sure, we're animals, but we're the best animals ever! Leaps and bounds above the rest. If we didn't value human lives above all else, we'd be a failure as a species.

Top of the food chain? Which bloody food chain? If you wanna talk about which animal that dominates this earth, it's probably some kind of bacteria. Certainly not humans, at least not by many standards I can think of.

But that's aside of the question. I'm not disgusted with the idea of somebody valuing the life of an animal over that of a human being, as long as it doesn't lead to the person developing some sort of pathological, antisocial personality disorder. But that's not likely.

I care more about my pet dog than I do about some human being on the other side of this planet that I never met. That doesn't mean I wouldn't rescue that human being if given the chance. There is simply not many relevant, real-world scenarios in which this human vs non-human animal ethics are applicable.

 

[CarlMin]

and didn;t Movie Bob even say that essentially in Petas "mission statments/core belives" that they don;t actually belive in pets or keeping pets....so technically they think your dog is better off dead than as somones pet.

That part is not true actually. As you can read on their website, PETA does not disapprove of animal companions for humans. Their official stance is that they approve of pet owner ship as long as it doesn't harm the animal in question. Don't get me wrong though, I still hate PETA for their actions and the amount of damage they have done to the animal welfare community.

 

[the_green_dragon]

Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.

You do realize you're an animal too right? You're a mammal. Just because you have higher thinking skills doesn't make you somehow better than that kitten. In fact, by that comment I'm pretty sure you're not.

Lol Lol

Listen to these people, they value people less then animals or close to on par with them.

Speak for yourself.

*****, I'm fabulous.

 

[the_green_dragon]

Top of the food chain? Which bloody food chain? If you wanna talk about which animal that dominates this earth, it's probably some kind of bacteria. Certainly not humans, at least not by many standards I can think of.

Lol Lol!

I think this has become a Troll thread.

some kind of bacteria is top of the food chain he says!

Hahahahah.. I can't stop laughing

 

[the_green_dragon]

Wait... you'd sacrifice ALL kittens for one person?!? Woah...

I can see the argument that a human life is worth more than an animal's life- part of that attitude comes from our innate need to protect our own, part of it stems from our sense of superiority, whther deserved or not- but to kill all kittens for one person is overwhelming... I think I'd have to save the kittens, personally, but it's an intruiging scenario, to say the least!

I vote to save the one human!

How many kittens is worth a human life?

If the devil comes to you and says I will kill 1 human or X kittens. Choose. How many is X before you choose the human? 1? 10? 100? 1000? 10,000? All the kittens in the world?

What if that human was someone you love? How many kittens would you sacrifice then?

-Please do not answer this if u are a crazy cat lady.

 

[DRes82]

By my definition, we're better in every respect. I suppose if you think of us as "just animals" than yea you can say we're no better (or worse), but most humans greatly resent the notion that we're "just animals," so I doubt you'll find much support there.

But what makes a human not 'just an animal'? Do you believe that they have some divine gift that makes them different from all the other life that evolved along side us?

I just don't understand the line of thought that says humans are innately superior. Its like believing that the universe revolves around the Earth. Its just so...short sighted and naive.

I really am trying to be open minded, but believing that humans are just born with some spark that makes them superior to other life seems like religion to me. In my experience, more bad than good comes from religion.

 

[SFMB]

Wait a minute: did someone at least check "the kitten" of not being a vampire or a demon? I'm all for burying cats in concrete, but unleashing a demonic kitten to the world is just wrong!

 

[the_green_dragon]

Humans have souls..... i suppose is the argument.

 

[Kolby Jack]

By my definition, we're better in every respect. I suppose if you think of us as "just animals" than yea you can say we're no better (or worse), but most humans greatly resent the notion that we're "just animals," so I doubt you'll find much support there.

But what makes a human not 'just an animal'? Do you believe that they have some divine gift that makes them different from all the other life that evolved along side us?

I just don't understand the line of thought that says humans are innately superior. Its like believing that the universe revolves around the Earth. Its just so...short sighted and naive.

I really am trying to be open minded, but believing that humans are just born with some spark that makes them superior to other life seems like religion to me. In my experience, more bad than good comes from religion.

That's a touchy subject, buddy, although probably less so on this site. It also has nothing to do with animals, so I'm puzzled as to why you keep bringing it up.

Anyway, I'm not talking about this from a religious standpoint. Yes, we evolved alongside all other animals on Earth. But we evolved into the smartest animals on the planet, capable of logic, reason, abstract thinking, and killing any other damn animal we feel like killing. That's what makes us the best animal on Earth. We rule it, we change it, we care about it (or not), and we'll continue to do so until rocks fall everyone dies.

 

[DRes82]

Wait... you'd sacrifice ALL kittens for one person?!? Woah...

I can see the argument that a human life is worth more than an animal's life- part of that attitude comes from our innate need to protect our own, part of it stems from our sense of superiority, whther deserved or not- but to kill all kittens for one person is overwhelming... I think I'd have to save the kittens, personally, but it's an intruiging scenario, to say the least!

I vote to save the one human!

How many kittens is worth a human life?

If the devil comes to you and says I will kill 1 human or X kittens. Choose. How many is X before you choose the human? 1? 10? 100? 1000? 10,000? All the kittens in the world?

What if that human was someone you love? How many kittens would you sacrifice then?

-Please do not answer this if u are a crazy cat lady.

It would depend, if I didn't know the person...I'd probably go with 1 kitten. Kittens don't fuck things up. If the person was someone I cared for, there would be no amount of kittens worth their life, but I'd say there would be no amount of random assholes that would be worth their life, either.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

*snip*

Uh, wow. Having higher thinking capabilities absolutely does make people better then kittens. Jesus, dial the back the rhetoric. I mean, the guy who said "who cares, it's an animal" is a fucking **** (tell me I'm wrong, mods) but that doesn't make your post any less silly.

Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.

HAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, good god, you're serious. Humans couldn't put a fucking DENT in this planet even if we tried. It has been through so much worse then us and it's still fine. And people who are cruel sadistic cunts tend to be mentally unstable, i.e., THERE IS SOMETHING PSYCHICALLY WRONG WITH THEM. The healthy human mind has absolutely no desire to hurt anyone. If it did, we'd have killed each other off before the invention of fire. Not to mention the fact that animals are massive cunts, too. But I'm pretty sure about a million people have informed you of this already, so I'll go ahead and skip that part of my speech.

 

[Kolby Jack]

Wait... you'd sacrifice ALL kittens for one person?!? Woah...

I can see the argument that a human life is worth more than an animal's life- part of that attitude comes from our innate need to protect our own, part of it stems from our sense of superiority, whther deserved or not- but to kill all kittens for one person is overwhelming... I think I'd have to save the kittens, personally, but it's an intruiging scenario, to say the least!

I vote to save the one human!

How many kittens is worth a human life?

If the devil comes to you and says I will kill 1 human or X kittens. Choose. How many is X before you choose the human? 1? 10? 100? 1000? 10,000? All the kittens in the world?

What if that human was someone you love? How many kittens would you sacrifice then?

-Please do not answer this if u are a crazy cat lady.

It would depend, if I didn't know the person...I'd probably go with 1 kitten. Kittens don't fuck things up. If the person was someone I cared for, there would be no amount of kittens worth their life, but I'd say there would be no amount of random assholes that would be worth their life, either.

You say that, but if such an awful scenario were to happen, there's no way you'd pick the kitten. You may feel like shit afterward, but come on. We're talking about a person here, with thoughts, dreams, and feelings. You'd have to be one cold ************ to sacrifice a person for something you find inoffensive. Also, kittens break shit all the time. Just sayin'.

 

[Lucem712]

I would beat some mo-fos with a cane if I found my dog buried in concrete. (Though, it'd have to be a pretty big pipe or whatever they stuck her in.)

That kitten died too. Are the Mormons that Mafia now? I'm surprised he didn't wake up with a kitten head in his bed.

Those bastards ain't Mormons despite what they say. The church itself does not acknowledge them and many were in fact kicked out for there polygamy or other reasons. Don't lump the real Mormons into the same group as those cultists that claim they are something they are not.
Hell don't even call them Mormons. There not.

As for whoever did this they need to be killed in the most painful way possible. Hopefully via dying in concrete like he did to that poor kitten.

Sorry, I really didn't mean to offend anyone, just a quick post. You know what they say, it only takes a few to give the whole group a bad name.

 

[scorptatious]

That's just horrible. Why would anyone do this?

Damn cultists.
Throw one of your own in an open construction pit next time, leave the animals alone.

I despise PETA but this shit just get's me really riled up.

PETA kills 90% of the animals they save. In one famous case, they hired an industrial freezer and placed every single animal they had just "rescued" from an animal testing lab into it, ending all their lives. They claimed this was to "end suffering," but many vets and wildlife experts argued the vast bulk of the animals were in fine health. The truth is, PETA just didn't want to pay to keep all those creatures around.

I'm pro animal rights and a staunch vegetarian, but I detest PETA. Trust me, they are horrible extremists, on par with any terrorist group.

From what I've seen of Pen and Teller's show on PETA, they were associated with a guy who firebombed an animal research lab. So I guess you're not too far off with that description.

Source:

 

[CarlMin]

Top of the food chain? Which bloody food chain? If you wanna talk about which animal that dominates this earth, it's probably some kind of bacteria. Certainly not humans, at least not by many standards I can think of.

Lol Lol!

I think this has become a Troll thread.

some kind of bacteria is top of the food chain he says!

Hahahahah.. I can't stop laughing

I'm pretty sure you're trolling me right now. At least I hope so. But since I enjoy correcting people so very much, I'll spend a few minutes writing a lengthy post as to way you're wrong anyway.

Firstly, some basic facts about bacteria. They rule this planet. They have managed to successfully adopt to every single environment on this earth, from the driest subtropical deserts to the coldest Antarctic environments, including of course radioactive waste and the Earth's crust in temperatures we cannot survive. They are and have always been the most important and varied organic group on this earth and they make up more of the earth's biomass than humans and plants combined (there's more than 5 × 1030 (5 nonillion) bacteria on Earth), and our bodies need many of them to even function properly.

Take the very impressive mycobacterium which can survive and successfully reproduce in almost every environment, no matter how hot, cold or radioactive it might be, and has dominated this planet billions of years before us, and will continue to dominate this planet millions of years after we?re gone, and has killed billions of us during the time we've spent on this earth together.

The only difference between bacteria and us as that we depend on them whereas they do not depend on us. And to put things in more earthly terms, should be decide to start a war against, let's say mycobacterium, we would not be able to, with whatever technology we should apply, eradicate them. (because, even if we decide to nuke the shit out of this earth and destroy ourselves in the process, mycobacterium would still survive).

So in short, bacteria fucking rule this planet. Simple as that. If we are to be truly objective, that is. We could always say that humans are the dominate species because we managed to shoot a rocket to the moon, but then we're not really being truly objective.

 

[Denamic]

I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?

How the fuck would you accidentally put a kitten into a pipe that's taller than you are?
And even if it was an accident, the concrete would still be wet or it wouldn't be buried in it in the first place, which basically means you can just remove the supports and lift the pipe right off to free it. And who cares? Anyone with any measure of empathy.
Your comment ranks among the most disturbing comments I've ever read on this forum, and it speaks much of your character.
I'm glad I do not and never will know you in person.

 

[the December King]

Wait... you'd sacrifice ALL kittens for one person?!? Woah...

I can see the argument that a human life is worth more than an animal's life- part of that attitude comes from our innate need to protect our own, part of it stems from our sense of superiority, whther deserved or not- but to kill all kittens for one person is overwhelming... I think I'd have to save the kittens, personally, but it's an intruiging scenario, to say the least!

I vote to save the one human!

How many kittens is worth a human life?

If the devil comes to you and says I will kill 1 human or X kittens. Choose. How many is X before you choose the human? 1? 10? 100? 1000? 10,000? All the kittens in the world?

What if that human was someone you love? How many kittens would you sacrifice then?

-Please do not answer this if u are a crazy cat lady.

Why is it the Devil making the deal, Green Dragon? Why not Jesus Christ? God made people make these kind of brutal decisions all the time- at least in the Old Testament.

Yeah, I was kinda expecting that 'what if it was your loved one' line... but what if it was just some scumbag you didn't know? Why is a human life worth so much, when all most of us do is eat, waste time, shit, have more baby time- wasters, and die? That's all the cats are up to, too, and you want to exterminate all of a generation of life, for one lousy person... or maybe your mom ( I admit, I don't really know what I'd do if I were actually presented with the loved one scenario. I can't say- I've never been put in such a hard place!)

I'm not a crazy cat lady, but I'm not into kitty genocide either.

Hey! This would have made an intruiging poll...