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SEXTON HALE

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What kind of message is this suppose to send?
Mess with us and well torture and kill a kitten? That is an intense over reaction to what the guy did whoever did this is clearly a coward.
How could this possibly be seen as a good way to get back at ome one.
I can only imagine the horrors if they were given a reason to actually be pissed off.
 

DRes82

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Cakes said:
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An innate sense of self-superiority? That sounds suspiciously like religious drivel. Humans used to believe that their world was the center of the universe, too. You know how that worked out?

A larger intellect doesn't equate to better. It just means more powerful.
I'm sorry, but there is something very wrong with you if you really believe a human life is equal to that of a cat.
Why? Did god tell you that? It took just as long for the cat to evolve into what it is as it did for you to evolve from primordial monkeys.

And I'm sorry, buddy, the whole human superiority thing is what got our planet into the fucked up state it is in today. Do cats ever carry ak-47's? Do dogs sit at a control panel and remotely drop bombs from drones? Do lizards rape the earth for fossil fuels, burn them, and then fart them into the atmosphere and warm shit up?

You explain exactly why a human life is more valuable than any other life on this earth, and maybe we can get somewhere.
 

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DRes82 said:
Why? Did god tell you that?
Why are you so insistent on religion here? I said nothing about my faith, and it isn't at all relevant.

It took just as long for the cat to evolve into what it is as it did for you to evolve from primordial monkeys.
Therefore we're equals...? Okay.

You explain exactly why a human life is more valuable than any other life on this earth, and maybe we can get somewhere.
We're self aware, for one thing. Do cats even develop personalities at all comparable to the way we do? Do they experience emotions on a level even nearing that of a human being? They run solely on instinct and are incapable of reason. I love animals and cruelty towards them is disgusting to me, but if in some bizarre scenario I had the choice between all the adorable kittens in the world and a single human life, the kittens gotta go.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
OT: Fucking wow. Can we get a source on this or something? As in, a news story which goes into detail?
I must have forgotten to post the source but I put it up now
 

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DRes82 said:
An innate sense of self-superiority? That sounds suspiciously like religious drivel. Humans used to believe that their world was the center of the universe, too. You know how that worked out?

A larger intellect doesn't equate to better. It just means more powerful.
Define better.

It's such a big word, better. It could mean anything. How would you objectively compare two animals and pick the better one?

I say humans are better because we pretty much took over the world. Well the dry parts of the world anyway. The natural world rewards power. Survival of the fittest and all that.
 

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Is it sad when this, while horrible, doesn't rank in the top 20, or even top 50 of nasty things done to animals I've seen and helped try to deal with over the last 8 years?

Also, the entire PETA organisation can go suck a humvee's exhaust pipe. They make working in animal welfare much fucking harder than it should be with their retarded antics and bullshit over-the-top nonsense campaigns.
 

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Cakes said:
Why are you so insistent on religion here? I said nothing about my faith, and it isn't at all relevant.
Saying that "Humans are innately superior" without providing back up or reasons just sounds like religious dogma to me.
Cakes said:
Therefore we're equals...? Okay.
Why NOT?

Cakes said:
We're self aware, for one thing. Do cats even develop personalities at all comparable to the way we do? Do they experience emotions on a level even nearing that of a human being? They run solely on instinct and are incapable of reason. I love animals and cruelty towards them is disgusting to me, but if in some bizarre scenario I had the choice between all the adorable kittens in the world and a single human life, the kittens gotta go.
How do you know what goes on in a kitten's brain? I don't have a cat at the moment, but the ones I've seen seem pretty expressive. Like that kitten in the video. It was obviously terrified and in pain.

Lets make this clear. If Humans vanished from the earth right this instant, nothing bad would come of it. In fact, the Earth would heal and become more biodiverse without a bloated population of apex predators (humans). However, what would happen if the species that we use to sustain us all disappeared? We would starve. Or suffocate. Or both.

I'd say that makes everything else more important, logically.

Burst6 said:
Define better.

It's such a big word, better. It could mean anything. How would you objectively compare two animals and pick the better one?

I say humans are better because we pretty much took over the world. Well the dry parts of the world anyway. The natural world rewards power. Survival of the fittest and all that.
Taking over the world isn't better. We're on the geological verge of making this place uninhabitable. Pollution, Deforestation, Over fishing, Over grazing, Over hunting, Over populating. Doesn't sound like that fits ANY definition of better. You are looking at it from a more viable perspective than 'humans are just...better', though.
 

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DRes82 said:
You explain exactly why a human life is more valuable than any other life on this earth, and maybe we can get somewhere.
In about five billion years we know for a fact that the Earth will be destroyed. Natural selection by which the less intelligent species develop by will be unable to adapt to this before being destroyed.


All life on this planet is certain to be destroyed unless someone with an appetite for resources beyond what the planet can provide begins to work towards expanding the areas in which terrestrial life can exist.

 

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DRes82 said:
Do cats ever carry ak-47's? Do dogs sit at a control panel and remotely drop bombs from drones? Do lizards rape the earth for fossil fuels, burn them, and then fart them into the atmosphere and warm shit up?
They would if they had opposable thumbs and the brains to use them.

And this mentallity works both ways. Do men kill the children of their new girlfriend because they challenge their own genetic superiority?
 

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Casual Shinji said:
DRes82 said:
Do cats ever carry ak-47's? Do dogs sit at a control panel and remotely drop bombs from drones? Do lizards rape the earth for fossil fuels, burn them, and then fart them into the atmosphere and warm shit up?
They would if they had opposable thumbs and the brains to use them.

And this mentallity works both ways. Do men kill the children of their new girlfriend because they challenge their own genetic superiority?
Not regularly these days, but during the middle ages and before? Definitely...it was commonplace.
 

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krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
Unfortunately, this is a two-sided argument. See, certain animals that we consider to be companions (dogs, cats, and the occasional snake...) represent a certain degree of innocence in the human mind. We sympathize with hurt animals who are harmed by human actions because we had human motivations behind the action, but the animal did not...thus, they become victimized (there's this scene in the movie "Apocalypse Now" when some soldiers shoot a boat filled with civilians, and the audience makes no sound, but when a PUPPY appears on the boat, suddenly the audience is shocked and sobbing). In short, we understand the complexities of human cruelty, but animals don't.

Now, this is different for say...sharks, tigers and other large, predatory animals. These animals have physical superiority over your Average Joe (quickly turning him into Sloppy Joe). These animals can defend themselves, and so when they become injured the human mind perceives this as less of a tragedy and more as a natural conflict. We have more sympathy for small animals out of our twisted idea of "fairness". Nature has no "fairness". It exists only in the human mind...and that makes it as real as it needs to be, particularly for some.

Canine companions also seem capable to adapting to our human emotions quite nicely. Dog owners will understand that a dog will match their behavior along with their owners emotion, behavior, and daily routines...giving the dog a sort of identity, even if the dog may not comprehend it. This "imprinting" adds a new level to emotional attachment to animals.

But for some, the level of emotional attachment to animals is minimal, and this is usually dependent on that person's past history, mindset, and opinion. So the political opinion on animal cruelty is mixed, and always will be so.

As for your statement "how can we save others when we can't save ourselves?"...I find that a very deep and intricate statement, because you can just as naturally say "how can we save ourselves without saving others?" This ties together with the concept of Harmony...another long-winded discussion that an Internet forum would be ill-fit to discuss. Offering my opinion, I find it emotionally wrong and logically perplexing to harm a small animal, in the name of any human issue..because that reflects the sinister aspects of humanity. I see no reason why not to prevent such things from happening, regardless of human problems. It seems...wrong.
 

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DRes82 said:
Casual Shinji said:
DRes82 said:
Do cats ever carry ak-47's? Do dogs sit at a control panel and remotely drop bombs from drones? Do lizards rape the earth for fossil fuels, burn them, and then fart them into the atmosphere and warm shit up?
They would if they had opposable thumbs and the brains to use them.

And this mentallity works both ways. Do men kill the children of their new girlfriend because they challenge their own genetic superiority?
Not regularly these days, but during the middle ages and before? Definitely...it was commonplace.
Yes, but it isn't now.

Nature is just as fucking brutal as we are, otherwise it wouldn't survive.
 

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Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
THANK YOU! No no we're not better not by a large margin. Why aren't we better?...CAUSE MEMBERS OF OUR SPECIES DO SHIT LIKE THIS! Yes animals kill each other, usually outright. They don't bury each other in cement to 'send a message'. Oh and It's a religious cult that did it too. How surprising.
 

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Blablahb said:
What? Those people should be arreste.... Oh wait, it was a religious group doing it? Then it's okay. Nothing to worry about folks, move along.

[/American mindset mode]

Jaythulhu said:
What an epic avatar
I'm American and I find that to be a misrepresentation of my character. I recommend caution in the future, as such statements may only perpetuate such behavior in the future.

The sarcasm of your statement wasn't lost on me, though. The people responsible should be arrested. Such behavior is an extension of an sick mind, and they should atone for what they've done...they might even learn something.
 

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that was one of the hardest videos to sit through. Such a shame the cat died, it looked in good shape at the end there (beaten, obviously, but not bad enough to die).
 

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TheRookie8 said:
Monxeroth said:
Im sure we can find some use for it now and look on the bright side:



*badum tss*
Please be Photo-shopped.
Its not. If i remember the story correctly, the owner of the cat loved it so much that after it died, he decided to stuff it and turn it into a flying quadcopter.