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lacktheknack

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Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.

Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
 

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CarlMinez said:
I'm pretty sure you're trolling me right now. At least I hope so. But since I enjoy correcting people so very much, I'll spend a few minutes writing a lengthy post as to way you're wrong anyway.
So basically bacteria rule the world because they can survive everywhere and they help us survive....

So food also rules the world because that helps us survive too?

We are much more awesome then bacteria because we can think, reason and write stupid posts on an internet forum.

Even if the world was ruled by bacteria they're too stupid (since they lack a brain) to realize it. Therefore humans win.

wait... why am i responding to you?
 

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CarlMinez said:
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Top of the food chain? Which bloody food chain? If you wanna talk about which animal that dominates this earth, it's probably some kind of bacteria. Certainly not humans, at least not by many standards I can think of.
Lol Lol!

I think this has become a Troll thread.

some kind of bacteria is top of the food chain he says!

Hahahahah.. I can't stop laughing
I'm pretty sure you're trolling me right now. At least I hope so. But since I enjoy correcting people so very much, I'll spend a few minutes writing a lengthy post as to way you're wrong anyway.

Firstly, some basic facts about bacteria. They rule this planet. They have managed to successfully adopt to every single environment on this earth, from the driest subtropical deserts to the coldest Antarctic environments, including of course radioactive waste and the Earth's crust in temperatures we cannot survive. They are and have always been the most important and varied organic group on this earth and they make up more of the earth's biomass than humans and plants combined (there's more than 5 × 1030 (5 nonillion) bacteria on Earth), and our bodies need many of them to even function properly.

Take the very impressive mycobacterium which can survive and successfully reproduce in almost every environment, no matter how hot, cold or radioactive it might be, and has dominated this planet billions of years before us, and will continue to dominate this planet millions of years after we?re gone, and has killed billions of us during the time we've spent on this earth together.

The only difference between bacteria and us as that we depend on them whereas they do not depend on us. And to put things in more earthly terms, should be decide to start a war against, let's say mycobacterium, we would not be able to, with whatever technology we should apply, eradicate them. (because, even if we decide to nuke the shit out of this earth and destroy ourselves in the process, mycobacterium would still survive).

So in short, bacteria fucking rule this planet. Simple as that. If we are to be truly objective, that is. We could always say that humans are the dominate species because we managed to shoot a rocket to the moon, but then we're not really being truly objective.
But they're not at the top of the food chain, because they don't eat people.

That was the original point.

And if you're going to mention that they use nutrients in corpses, then you've just entered food cycles, because plants do that too.
 

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the December King said:
Why is it the Devil making the deal, Green Dragon? Why not Jesus Christ? God made people make these kind of brutal decisions all the time- at least in the Old Testament.
Hello!

good question. I suppose since God created the Devil he is to blame for this situation.
 

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lacktheknack said:
CarlMinez said:
the_green_dragon said:
CarlMinez said:
Top of the food chain? Which bloody food chain? If you wanna talk about which animal that dominates this earth, it's probably some kind of bacteria. Certainly not humans, at least not by many standards I can think of.
Lol Lol!

I think this has become a Troll thread.

some kind of bacteria is top of the food chain he says!

Hahahahah.. I can't stop laughing
I'm pretty sure you're trolling me right now. At least I hope so. But since I enjoy correcting people so very much, I'll spend a few minutes writing a lengthy post as to way you're wrong anyway.

Firstly, some basic facts about bacteria. They rule this planet. They have managed to successfully adopt to every single environment on this earth, from the driest subtropical deserts to the coldest Antarctic environments, including of course radioactive waste and the Earth's crust in temperatures we cannot survive. They are and have always been the most important and varied organic group on this earth and they make up more of the earth's biomass than humans and plants combined (there's more than 5 × 1030 (5 nonillion) bacteria on Earth), and our bodies need many of them to even function properly.

Take the very impressive mycobacterium which can survive and successfully reproduce in almost every environment, no matter how hot, cold or radioactive it might be, and has dominated this planet billions of years before us, and will continue to dominate this planet millions of years after we?re gone, and has killed billions of us during the time we've spent on this earth together.

The only difference between bacteria and us as that we depend on them whereas they do not depend on us. And to put things in more earthly terms, should be decide to start a war against, let's say mycobacterium, we would not be able to, with whatever technology we should apply, eradicate them. (because, even if we decide to nuke the shit out of this earth and destroy ourselves in the process, mycobacterium would still survive).

So in short, bacteria fucking rule this planet. Simple as that. If we are to be truly objective, that is. We could always say that humans are the dominate species because we managed to shoot a rocket to the moon, but then we're not really being truly objective.
But they're not at the top of the food chain, because they don't eat people.

That was the original point.

And if you're going to mention that they use nutrients in corpses, then you've just entered food cycles, because plants do that too.
I thought the overall point was human superiority. I mean the food chain isn't even a thing. It's just a mental concept of how animals feed of each other that they teach in first grade. Saying that humans are on the top of the food chain doesn't mean anything, unless you by extension imply that humans are superior to other animals, which we aren't necessary.
 

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I don't think I want to watch the video of this. Wet concrete can be nasty If your skin stays in contact with it a long time.

This is monstrous.
please dont watch it. all you will see is an innocent creature meowing its last few meows.
 

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idarkphoenixi said:
... After 2-3 minutes in, I had to shut the video off.

It was to painful, I really wish nothing had to suffer like that. It's cruel to be prey to another animal or be killed on the spot, but I find it all so much worse when you're dying/suffering slowly especially in this kitten's situation.

Teary eyed and sad as heck right now. Call me super sensitive, but that kitten deserved much better. Least it was saved and given a chance to live even though it didn't make it at the end. Also, who would ever... ever consider throwing anything alive down there as a sign or warning? That is brutally wrong, unless it was by chance the kitten getting into an accidental situation. But still, ... my sympathy towards the kitten.
Aw crap I've upset Caramel. The kitten story I could handle (barely) but this, this is too much.

 

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CarlMinez said:
I thought the overall point was human superiority. I mean the food chain isn't even a thing. It's just a mental concept of how animals feed of each other that they teach in first grade. Saying that humans are on the top of the food chain doesn't mean anything, unless you by extension imply that humans are superior to other animals, which we aren't necessary.
Fine, I can work with that. It means you responded to someone on uneven terms, but hey, what happens happens.

That said, I don't see the point of treating other animals as equals. It contributes nothing to human society, and has horrific implications in the farming industry.

Sure, you shouldn't abuse animals (as seen in the OP), but there's no reason to break out the "humans are the same as other animals" argument. I don't agree with it, but above all, there's no point to it.
 

Lilani

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krazykidd said:
I bet it was an accident . There is a lot of easier ways the dispose of kittens . Plus who cares , it's an animal . Let's worry about helping/saving humans first and then animals . How can we save others when we can't save ourselves?
That doesn't make it any less cruel. The thing could barely breathe, the concrete was pressing against its lungs. I don't care where we are on the food chain, we must hold ourselves to higher standards than this. No creature deserves to suffer like that.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.

Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
I think a big part of the problem is that if we're supposed to be so much better than animals, why do we still end up doing all of the worst, malicious things? We're supposed to be better than that, as part of what 'elevates' us from them.

I understand you're stance on the 'humans are the same as other animals' argument- it can get messy- but it seems to be that we are the ones locked into having to admit that bad behaviour is a human trait, because we consciously have made the choice to BE bad, to actively pursue and commit unnecessarily despicable acts of our own free will with our big brains/souls/what have you.

And maybe dolphins, too.
 

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the December King said:
lacktheknack said:
Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.

Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
I think a big part of the problem is that if we're supposed to be so much better than animals, why do we still end up doing all of the worst, malicious things? We're supposed to be better than that, as part of what 'elevates' us from them.

I understand you're stance on the 'humans are the same as other animals' argument- it can get messy- but it seems to be that we are the ones locked into having to admit that bad behaviour is a human trait, because we consciously have made the choice to BE bad, to actively pursue and commit unnecessarily despicable acts of our own free will with our big brains/souls/what have you.

And maybe dolphins, too.
As someone else in this thread said, the worst humans have nearly all been physically/mentally ill, "defective" if you will.

We seem to think that the urge to maim, kill and destroy is a naturally human one, but I just straight up don't think it's true. Even the "horrors of war" require soldiers to be conditioned first.
 

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Micromyni said:
I'm gonna go hug my cat.
I couldn't help but do the same (he's my current avatar). Sob stories arn't my thing but when someone hurts the official mascot of the internet, then they've crossed the line. Hopefully the more attention it gets, maybe something will be done about it.

I'd hug my african grey parrot too but it might not be as easy.
 

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lacktheknack said:
the December King said:
lacktheknack said:
Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.

Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
I think a big part of the problem is that if we're supposed to be so much better than animals, why do we still end up doing all of the worst, malicious things? We're supposed to be better than that, as part of what 'elevates' us from them.

I understand you're stance on the 'humans are the same as other animals' argument- it can get messy- but it seems to be that we are the ones locked into having to admit that bad behaviour is a human trait, because we consciously have made the choice to BE bad, to actively pursue and commit unnecessarily despicable acts of our own free will with our big brains/souls/what have you.

And maybe dolphins, too.
As someone else in this thread said, the worst humans have nearly all been physically/mentally ill, "defective" if you will.

We seem to think that the urge to maim, kill and destroy is a naturally human one, but I just straight up don't think it's true. Even the "horrors of war" require soldiers to be conditioned first.
Thanks for the prompt and polite reply!

You might be right about my skewed view on people- it's really hot where I am, and I hate the heat, and it might be coloring my attitudes at the moment.

Also, and more on topic, in general I view the notion of a kitten's torture and death to be a message to someone because of differing beliefs a reprehensible, despicable and condemnable act.
 

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lacktheknack said:
CarlMinez said:
I thought the overall point was human superiority. I mean the food chain isn't even a thing. It's just a mental concept of how animals feed of each other that they teach in first grade. Saying that humans are on the top of the food chain doesn't mean anything, unless you by extension imply that humans are superior to other animals, which we aren't necessary.
Fine, I can work with that. It means you responded to someone on uneven terms, but hey, what happens happens.

That said, I don't see the point of treating other animals as equals. It contributes nothing to human society, and has horrific implications in the farming industry.

Sure, you shouldn't abuse animals (as seen in the OP), but there's no reason to break out the "humans are the same as other animals" argument. I don't agree with it, but above all, there's no point to it.
Well not from a human perspective. But I'm sure that a lot of non-human animals would benefit from us, at least recognizing that they are too sentient beings. And most mammals and birds are indeed sentient.

I don't think it's necessary about treating humans and animals as equals, it's more about acknowledged that the reasons we care about human lives is not simply because they are a member of homo-sapiens, it's because we recognize that they have a capacity to feel physical and psychological pain, which arguably most animals do as well.

Therefore, that is a limit to how we should allow ourselves to treat them. Where that limit goes I guess is very individual.
 

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the December King said:
lacktheknack said:
As someone else in this thread said, the worst humans have nearly all been physically/mentally ill, "defective" if you will.

We seem to think that the urge to maim, kill and destroy is a naturally human one, but I just straight up don't think it's true. Even the "horrors of war" require soldiers to be conditioned first.
Thanks for the prompt and polite reply!

You might be right about my skewed view on people- it's really hot where I am, and I hate the heat, and it might be coloring my attitudes at the moment.

Also, and more on topic, in general I view the notion of a kitten's torture and death to be a message to someone because of differing beliefs a reprehensible, despicable and condemnable act.
I do as well. I just refuse to take the sicko who buried a kitten alive as the "norm" for human behavior. There's a reason (s)he'll be prosecuted if (s)he gets caught.

Also, it's enormously hot here as well. This is Canada! The Great White North! Not the land of a thousand suns! I feel your pain.
 

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idarkphoenixi said:
Micromyni said:
I'm gonna go hug my cat.
I couldn't help but do the same (he's my current avatar). Sob stories arn't my thing but when someone hurts the official mascot of the internet, then they've crossed the line. Hopefully the more attention it gets, maybe something will be done about it.

I'd hug my african grey parrot too but it might not be as easy.
I decided to go hug all my pets, and my dog is on my lap as I type. Here, I'll get her to paw the keybord: gyubtfv f5tvg078vtyblu ijoiurdfvgbh

My cat would be on my lap, but she's prissy and only wants affection when she seeks it out herself. Little brat, but I wouldn't want her any other way.
 

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You know, maybe I've just got an utterly fucked perspective, what with my existence taking a turn for the asocial over the last year or so, but I genuinely value my dog's life over any human I can think of. She's been my best friend since I was a kid, she's always been there for me, and now she's getting old and arthritic, I spend most of my time returning the favor and looking after her. For which, I might add, she seems damn grateful, which is more than I can say for any human in my life right now. Perhaps I'm just pathetic, even a bit deluded, but if it comes down to a choice between my dog and some stranger, "inherent human superiority" be damned, I'm saving my friend.

OT: In case the above doesn't make it obvious, I'm saddened and infuriated by this story. Poor kitten...
 

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There is a special ring in Hell for anybody who would bury a Kitten in Concrete, it's the same as PETA wackos and anybody who would harm a kitten.