If thier Non-Adults Only ratings are like the ones in the U.S. then it's only a suggestion on what the prefered age is since licenses or I.D.s are normally made for people younger than 16 here meaning it'd be hard to identify who's 14 or 15 and etc.crazypsyko666 said:If they're worried about children's addictions, then a 15 and up rating actually sounds pretty reasonable. I'm not sure how to respond to the drug use, though. Has anyone ever tried drugs because starcraft told them to?
You know, sometimes people get killed in car accidents, maybe we should get rid of cars.lacktheknack said:Note that "The best interest of the people" almost certainly includes "Keeping them alive", which is something that Starcraft did NOT do. That probably factored in somewhere.danpascooch said:I am saying they are corrupt because they did NOT do their job. Their job is to assess the level of mature content in a game and rate it accordingly, what they did was use the power of the 18+ rating to hurt the games penetration in Korea, because they were concerned that it's popularity was getting too many people in the country addicted to it. They overstepped their bounds by rating this game 18+ NOT because of it's content, but because they considered it dangerously popular. This game being rated 18+ breaks all past precedent of what garners an 18+ rating in Korea, and using their rating power to do anything but rate the game based on the maturity level of its content is a corruption.Akalabeth said:What exactly is corrupt about making Starcraft 2 a 18+ rated game? Seriously? CORRUPT? Where the hell do you even get that from? Governments are elected to serve the people. If the government official deems that it should be an 18+ rated game then it's an 18+ rated game. If they feel they need to protect younger games from the depictions in SC2 then how is it corrupt???danpascooch said:Don't worry, I'm not insane enough to suggest that South Korea has a corrupt government based on this one little thing, I'm just saying that government officials using their powers in a way not intended when they were granted the powers is dangerous, and yes, it is a corruption OF government, because they are part of the government, and whoever made that decision is corrupt.
Seriously try looking up definitions to words before you start throwing them around. A government acting in the interests of its people is DOING ITS JOB. If you don't think their actions are in your best interests then elect someone else and/or petition your local politician.
Also, things aren't nearly as black and white as you say, who decides what the "best interest of the people is" anyway? I think it's in the best interest of the people for the South Korean government to not use it's ratings to incorrectly rate a game 18+ in order to curb it's popularity instead of misusing the power of the ratings board for a purpose besides what it's there for
So sorry, you're wrong, and you seemed WAY too outraged at my opinion
Edit: No I was talking about the age 15 being reasonable part I knew the Adult Only means illegal to sell to minors but the other person thought a 15 rating one would be fair though if it's like in the U.S. any oen could buy it'd only be a suggestion and not stop younger kids to an extent that AO would.666Chaos said:It means that if your under 18 you cant buy it in a store.Lucane said:If thier Non-Adults Only ratings are like the ones in the U.S. then it's only a suggestion on what the prefered age is since licenses or I.D.s are normally made for people younger than 16 here meaning it'd be hard to identify who's 14 or 15 and etc.
There isnt much that blizzard can or should do about this. The rating has nothing to do with the actual footage/gameplay and more to do with the title of the game. I agree that its definatly alittle corrupt but its korea what do you really expect.
this is what happens when you have a ratings board thats controlled bt the government, at least with a private ratings board you can keep a lot of the politics out ratings process and give a more objective rating.13lackfriday said:Why do politics always get involved with content rating?
Sigh...everyone's got an agenda...
that's like saying that it was the alcohols fault that a drunk driver killed 4 people. while its true that the without the booze he wouldn't have killed them it takes the blame completely off of where it squarely belongs, on the idiot that got bombed and then got behind the wheel of a car. and its the same here, while it may be true to say that he wouldn't have died if it weren't for starcraft if he really spent 50 hours playing a game without eating or sleeping then there's something seriously wrong with him, and that's a FACT that you seem very eager to ignore.Akalabeth said:Crooked sense of moral values? So what a game that shows violence and drug use is "good" morale values?Icehearted said:That was my first thought as well. I hate that the ratings board has that kind of power over a video game maker. It's like companies hobble their products just to pander to these people's crooked sense of personal moral values.Igen said:Seems like an attempt to control the masses more then anything else.
Howabout this instead, the Government is elected to serve the interests of the people.
Corporations don't give a shit about people, they just want to make money. Game companies are no different.
I mean hell people have died playing Starcraft:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4137782.stm
Most people think "oh, this guy's a dumbass" but the fact is, that without starcraft he wouldn't have spent 50 hours playing that game. You think the game isn't a factor? Of course it is. How can it NOT be a factor in his death? Maybe incidents like this are affecting the South Korean government's policy on video games. And with good reason. It's not like any of the people raking in the cash at Blizzard are really going to care when someone goes and dies playing one of their games.
They'll just think "oh, what drives this guy to play for so long? He must have been stupid! Oh well, let's continue making starcraft 2. We're gonna make shitloads of money! Woooo!"
I know this not because of comparing their criteria to an outside source, but from comparing their own criteria to their own criteria, that is to say, their own past precedent. For the level and category of mature content in the game, there has never been an 18+ rating in South Korea.Akalabeth said:Oh and you know this how exactly? Do some of your buddies work with the guys who rated the game? You know their exact motivations?danpascooch said:I am saying they are corrupt because they did NOT do their job. Their job is to assess the level of mature content in a game and rate it accordingly, what they did was use the power of the 18+ rating to hurt the games penetration in Korea, because they were concerned that it's popularity was getting too many people in the country addicted to it. They overstepped their bounds by rating this game 18+ NOT because of it's content, but because they considered it dangerously popular.
Hell maybe the criteria of their rating system is different from what you expect. Maybe the addictiveness of the game and the negative consequences in past players is in part motivating their decision. Who says what criteria is right and what criteria is wrong? They're the government. They set the policy. They can do what they want.
So basically you're saying the game needs to be rated 18 and up because it's TOO GOOD?Nalesnik said:While I don't agree with the South Korea Government's decision, I can see why they would slap an AO rating on SC2. Video game addiction is a huge problem there, so they're trying to address the problem directly, just like some America states are trying to curb obesity by placing restrictions on fast foods restaurants.
It certainly sucks for the under 18 Koreans that CAN employ self-control. They are the ones getting shafted.
No, I clearly said I DON'T agree with the rating. I just happen to understand the government's reason for the rating.danpascooch said:So basically you're saying the game needs to be rated 18 and up because it's TOO GOOD?Nalesnik said:While I don't agree with the South Korea Government's decision, I can see why they would slap an AO rating on SC2. Video game addiction is a huge problem there, so they're trying to address the problem directly, just like some America states are trying to curb obesity by placing restrictions on fast foods restaurants.
It certainly sucks for the under 18 Koreans that CAN employ self-control. They are the ones getting shafted.
Wow, what a load of crap on South Korea's part, the board is there to rate games based on level of mature content, not how popular it is
Blizzard's reaction is more along the lines of "We don't know if we're going to do anything about it because we haven't decided yet if any alterations will have any effect on the game's rating". Basically, the rating is clearly not based on the game's content, so it's debatable if there's even anything that Blizzard can do to change the rating. If it's decided that they can make some change to the content, then odds are that they'll change the Korean version of the game.mechanixis said:It's likely an undeserved rating - not that I've played SC2 - but what I really find amusing is Blizzard's reaction. "Challenge it? Meh. I 'unno. I'll see if I feel like it. I mean, if we're worried about money, we've always got WoW."
Bribe them?Lorsty said:The question is, if such rating was applied to the game because of its popularity, is there anything Blizzard can do so they change their mind about the rating?