L4D 2 demo... what do people think?

[FightThePower]

I flat out disagree. The core gameplay being the same is not a bad thing at all, but having many more weapons and three new Specials makes the game more varied than the original. It also makes the game harder (try backing into a tight alleyway now - my entire team got owned by a Charger), giving back that tense feeling you had when first playing Left 4 Dead, before you realised so long as you stayed in a corner everything would work out fine.

And I'm one of those people who doesn't give a shit about graphics, so the age of the Source engine means nothing to me. I can play Tomb Raider II on my laptop and it looks pretty bad when stretched to an 18 inch widescreen but I don't let it affect the fun I have playing the game.

So basically I like it a lot.

 

[Spygon]

i enjoyed the only to things that i was disapointed with are that i think the l4d survivors are more better than the new ones and because its now in the daylight you rarely get that "oh shit which direction are they coming" from moment.

Other than that a good game the new infected and weapons are awesome.Also you would rather better graphics than gameplay?.As the game play in deadspace was terrible also so was the story thinking about it.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Half the stuff you said seems to be just like what the boycotters said when the first trailer was released... anyway, I loved it... was too distracted by, you know, actually killing zombies to look around and think about what was wrong with it...

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I loved every second.
It was gory, fun, and I got to blast at zombies.
Sadly, I do not have the money to spare for it, so I have to pass at this time...sigh.

And I do not know where you're finding issues with the graphics...I played it on the default settings and it still looked markedly better than the first game when I played it on high.

Spoiler: L4D2 screen

I'll try and explain what I mean.

See how everything is angular?

This game has more right angles than the companion cube factory.

Look at the texture clash between the balcony and the wall below it... they look badly pasted together, it's too obvious. The balcony just floats next to the wall. Nothing seems to fit together well in the world.

I can see that.
But that's immediately followed by "why are you looking at the walls? Zombie! Shoot!"
...yeah, I'm not that good at taking the time to stop and look more closely.
I really noticed that the lighting seemed better(or at least more present), and the splatters were nicer.
*shrugs*
I'll admit I turned my brain off while playing it.

Which is, of course, not a bad thing.

I guess I'm a different kind of gamer, a lot of times I like to wander around the areas and admire the view, taking my time to see everything up close. I get really immersed in gameworlds, hence why I love Fallout 3 and Half Life 2 so much.

It drives my friends mad though. Hehe. Played L4D with No More Sanity and he spent the entire game about a mile ahead of me...

 

[MiracleOfSound]

i enjoyed the only to things that i was disapointed with are that i think the l4d survivors are more better than the new ones and because its now in the daylight you rarely get that "oh shit which direction are they coming" from moment.

Other than that a good game the new infected and weapons are awesome.Also you would rather better graphics than gameplay?.As the game play in deadspace was terrible also so was the story thinking about it.

How about nice graphics AND gameplay?

We should expect nothing less from developers of mainstream games.

Personally I loved the gameplay in Dead Space, it is one of my favorite games. It reminded me of Resi 4.

What was it you didn't like about it?

 

[Neonbob]

I can see that.
But that's immediately followed by "why are you looking at the walls? Zombie! Shoot!"
...yeah, I'm not that good at taking the time to stop and look more closely.
I really noticed that the lighting seemed better(or at least more present), and the splatters were nicer.
*shrugs*
I'll admit I turned my brain off while playing it.

Which is, of course, not a bad thing.

I guess I'm a different kind of gamer, a lot of times I like to wander around the areas and admire the view, taking my time to see everything up close. I get really immersed in gameworlds, hence why I love Fallout 3 and Half Life 2 so much.

It drives my friends mad though. Hehe. Played L4D with No More Sanity and he spent the entire game about a mile ahead of me...

Wait...you played with him and lived through it?
I've only heard horror stories about sessions with NMS X-D

 

[ButanicXpandA]

2 words: Australian censorship >.< !!!

 

[Footinbox]

I'm not sure what happened with this one...I mean, yeah it was more gory and there was a larger variety of weapons (guitar and axe are pretty awesome) but there was something about it...I don't know, it just didn't have the L4D feel. But maybe with a campaign larger than 2 stages, my mind might change. I'm getting it regardless, there is more to this one and having loved L4D so much, I'm willing 2 give L4D2 a chance at least. Hop I don't regret it.

 

[PseudoDuck]

I miss Bill and Francis.

Aside from that, everything is better. Love the "utility" items, like the Boomer Bile and the Adrenaline. Couldn't get enough of the machete and the combat shotgun.

And the daytime setting is a very welcome change.

 

[Snotnarok]

It was a lot like the other half of Left 4 Dead 1, not enough difference for me to shell out 50 bucks. That's not to say it's a bad thing I guess, but I'm a bit low in funds to buy a game that I'm not really excited for compared to say ...God of War III, Dead Rising 2, Uncharted 2, etc etc.

 

[EvilGamer89]

I thought the graphics looked great, the old girl, (Source,) still has a few games in her yet. I mean yeah, it's not top-of-the-line but it's certainly good enough to keep the emersion factor alive without causing your PC to spazz out.

I agree, I think the reason that they keep using the source engine is because not everyone is rich enough to go out and buy super charged computers from the future, they are trying to keep the games available to as many people as possible so that they may rake in more income.

I for one thought the demo was good, it showed off the new weapons and special infected well. Granted my graphics card is getting old and extremely outdated and I was forced to run it at 800x600 so that it would render the zombies instead of paint them bright effing green, it was ok. My only complaint was that the flashlights really didn't help in the dark areas, there was no range to it. Granted all of this the good out weighs the bad for me.

I am also gunna be playing it on the 360 after it's released so there should be a big difference between my Steam demo and the actual game. I am looking forward to this.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Wait...you played with him and lived through it?
I've only heard horror stories about sessions with NMS X-D

It was a rather frustrating experience, yes.

I played Borderlands with him the other day, he lead our level 8 party up a ravine full of level 11 Alpha Skags, despite my protests against it.

Oddly enough, the humiliating annihalation that ensued didn't seem to bother him.

 

[Spygon]

i enjoyed the only to things that i was disapointed with are that i think the l4d survivors are more better than the new ones and because its now in the daylight you rarely get that "oh shit which direction are they coming" from moment.

Other than that a good game the new infected and weapons are awesome.Also you would rather better graphics than gameplay?.As the game play in deadspace was terrible also so was the story thinking about it.

How about nice graphics AND gameplay?

We should expect nothing less from developers of mainstream games.

Personally I loved the gameplay in Dead Space, it is one of my favorite games. It reminded me of Resi 4.

What was it you didn't like about it?

i agree about games having good graphics and gameplay but i cant see why your complaining when you compare it to something like dead space.

Trying to do anything in dead space was really slow and was rather unnatural. Also the constant find a key,open a door,kill everything and repeat was horrible it was like playing an early 90s game. Also the horror elements were none existence as everything either killed you instantly or not at all that quickly made the game boring.

 

[Spyd3rs]

Make sure you're playing on a different rig than the one you got for Half-Life 2. Then make sure you go to the video options and crank everything up to 10. You're blind if you can compare the graphics to half-life 2, but I do agree that the source engine doesn't look as fancy as many of it's competitors.

As far as the game goes, I think it's as fun as Left 4 Dead has always been, except for a much needed change in scenery. You're just pissed because it's not free.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

It is a demo.
And not the final system.
Seriously.
Does no one read that?

Demos are meant to be a way to experience the best the game has to offer, so people will then go and buy it.

They should function as well as the finished game.

And developers should be perfect, find every bug long before it comes out, max out the game engine to the full capabilities of the hardware, and have the entire game in mint condition weeks before release. That way they can release a demo that's just cutting out the majority of the content. Who would dare release a demo that's put together from an unfinished product, taking time from that product which is being stressfully worked on already, just to satisfy and entice potential consumers?

Someone with good business sense, that's who.

 

[ToxinArrow]

Cool new features, but not enough to warrant a $50 purchase.

Good thing my friend gifted it to me.

 

[londelen]

The only problem I havei s that there is a ton of different weps, and I don't really know the difference between them most of the time.

 

[link141]

"Terrible graphics"? Are you sure you and I played the same game? I played it on my 360 and I thought it looked remarkably better than the first one.

Yes, I am sure. The first one looked pretty bad too, though due to being mainly in darkness the flaws weren't as glaringly obvious.

You can see the texture separations on the Tank and other character models from 20 or 30 yards away. They're horrible.

The houses look like dolls houses.

It's like everything in the world was built from giant Lego polygons from 2004.

For a perfect example, go to the first saferoom and look at the shelves. Ugh.

I still maintain, Mike Patton was the best thing about this demo.

Well were sorry you can't enjoy a game without graphics that look amazing,you should care more about the gameplay.