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Gecko clown

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This point of view doesn't make any sense to me. It's like not watching a film because the protagonist is male and you feel you connect to him better if he was female. I rarely play female unless I have no choice.
 

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Akratus said:
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Mylinkay Asdara said:
Do you find yourself not feeling a desire to play games that do not offer a male or female protagonist choice, the way others do i.e. Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout 3/NV, Skyrim and so forth?
It's really depends. Some male protagonists are nothing but surrogates for the male power fantasy. So sick of it. The Witcher is a perfect example.
It's a wrong example. If Geralt is a male power fantasy then I am a donkey.
You're certainly an ass. Did you miss the "Romance Cards". Hello?
A card collecting game makes a character a male power fantasy, how logical.
I'm glad you understand now.
 

Headdrivehardscrew

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Gecko clown said:
This point of view doesn't make any sense to me. It's like not watching a film because the protagonist is male and you feel you connect to him better if he was female. I rarely play female unless I have no choice.
You certainly are an odd lady, sir.

Couldn't help it.

Spank me. Wait.. no, you can't spank me before Saturday. I'm free Saturday. How about it? You in?
 

Bara_no_Hime

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Mylinkay Asdara said:
So here's my question: Do you find yourself not feeling a desire to play games that do not offer a male or female protagonist choice, the way others do i.e. Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Fallout 3/NV, Skyrim and so forth?
If character customization is an option, then yes, I will only play games with a female option.

When customization is not an option (such as in JRPGs like Xenoblade or Final Fantasy, or other story-based games like Catherine) then it doesn't bother me. Xenoblade is the story of Shulk, Catherine is the story of Vincent, etc. No problem with that.

But if the game is an open world, custom character, "choose your path" kinda game, like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, or Skyrim, then yes, I insist on games where I can choose to play a Female protagonist.

This is one of the many reason I love Persona 3 Portable. It is a JRPG that added a female protagonist in addition to the male option. Great stuff.

And for games with a static story that relies on a male protagonist, the protagonist must be interesting and worthwhile. Give me a blank slate character in a game where I can't insert any of myself anyway, and my interest is nullified.

You will never see me playing Call of Duty or similar for that reason - generic interchangeable characters.
 

SaetonChapelle

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As a female gamer myself, I've almost always chosen a male character over a female in most cases when I have the option. When it comes to games like Mass Effect, I have been featured the image of the strong, male character in the promotional arts and covers, and so it feels a little strange to play a female protagonist when I'm already in the mind set of a male character. I don't ever turn away a game just because I don't have the option of having breasts. I enjoy the game for its story and game play, not for the gender of the pixels given to me.
 

norashepard

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I find that I do have a harder time playing a game if it does not have a female player character option, or to a lesser degree, a lesbian romance option. I certainly have played games as a man in the past, and romanced the crap out of some dudes, but I guess the more I see that there are games, like Mass Effect, that can and do allow a lesbian player like myself to play the way I really prefer, I have less of a tolerance for male-centered games.

Not that I don't like them. Not at all. I loved The Walking Dead, but I have always considered that series more about the collection of characters, instead of just one, so that probably made it easier for me to get into. But games like Far Cry 3, in which women are very much thrown to the back, I just really don't enjoy nearly as much, even if they are good games. Also, I find I'm a lot more willing to play a game if it does have the option for a female protagonist, even if it's generally not my kind of game (For example, I didn't bother with Planetside 2 until they added female pcs in an update).

No idea why this is, but I'm guessing it's just that I feel more comfortable seeing someone like me on the screen for however many hours the game is, as opposed to Muscles McMann, especially now that I know that it can be done.
 

deathzero021

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As a man, i don't care. I'm not really into creating my own characters anyway, i'd rather play as a really interesting, well designed character. i don't care what their gender or race is. I don't usually FEEL like i'm that character, i'm the player, not the character.

Just finished playing Legend of Heroes VI and you play as a female the whole game. loved the game every bit, didn't bother me at all. had good characters so why should i care?

If you're really into the whole ROLE PLAYING thing than i can understand where you are coming from, but there are a whole lot of other types of games out there, many of them being very enjoyable as they are. I don't think we need more of the "create your own character" BS that is becoming a large part of open world games. Most character creation systems are pretty lame and the character i create i end up feeling LESS attached to, seeing as they're nothing but a blank slate that could be anything and has no personality what so ever.
 

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Why do people here automatically equate the possibility of character creation with a lack of personality/interaction? Why not let us pick character/origin upon character creation? Why not let the game world react appropriately to a characters gender/physique? (Why not let the gender influence your stats/abilities, with the option to revert it if you want to play a burly woman or a girly man? (arcanum did it))

Oh. Right. The dev-team would have to put *effort* in it. Rather then just having one outfit and one face, so you can save money rendering the cutscenes, and barely any character. Isn't that right Human Revolution? Alpha Protocol?

Also, Witcher II didn't offend me because it made me play a male asshole, it offended me because it was quite possibly the most hatefully mysoginistic piece of media produced in the western hemisphere, since women got the right to vote.
 

norashepard

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Zannah said:
Why do people here automatically equate the possibility of character creation with a lack of personality/interaction? Why not let us pick character/origin upon character creation? Why not let the game world react appropriately to a characters gender/physique? (Why not let the gender influence your stats/abilities, with the option to revert it if you want to play a burly woman or a girly man? (arcanum did it))

Oh. Right. The dev-team would have to put *effort* in it. Rather then just having one outfit and one face, so you can save money rendering the cutscenes, and barely any character. Isn't that right Human Revolution? Alpha Protocol?

Also, Witcher II didn't offend me because it made me play a male asshole, it offended me because it was quite possibly the most hatefully mysoginistic piece of media produced in the western hemisphere, since women got the right to vote.
I agree with basically everything you said here. Games that not only let me play as a woman but acknowledge it, be it through stats, dialogue, or even unique solutions to challenges, are great. Arcanum was awesome specifically for this reason (in no other game is being a female half-orc anywhere close to interesting).

And if a developer doesn't want to put the effort into making a good game, why should we ever even bother playing it? Like, in Far Cry 2, they had three or so female mercs, who filled the same role as all of the male mercs, with the exception that you couldn't play as them, because Ubisoft didn't want to make the hand models. Literally that is it. There were already combat grunts and stuff for them in the game, and the protagonist was silent otherwise if I recall correctly. It was just lazy.

Oh, and don't get me started on The Witcher. I tried to like it. Really hard. But I couldn't get past the flagrant disrespect towards basically everyone but white men. And I don't care if that's "just the way it was in medieval times." There was no magic back then either. No white haired monster hunters, and certainly no crazy impossible boss monsters.
 

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Akratus said:
Have you played the witcher games? There happens to be this character called Triss who just so happens to be more powerful than the main character Geralt.
Eh, the fact that there's a strong female character (or that women work at the developer and so on) doesn't actually disprove the male power fantasy thing. And frankly, "male power fantasy" isn't an insult - I liked The Witcher, and I'm happy to acknowledge that there's a huge element of that in there. That's part of the fun - at least for me. That said, I think it's equally fair if it turns other people off.

It's bizarre to pretend that it's not there though (even beyond the cards, although frankly they're a very good example of it).

Mylinkay Asdara said:
Nothing against the game or those who are about it - I hear it's really well done. That's why I'm bothered that a single factor turned me off like that and now I'm trying to figure out why and if I can fix it how to do that.
Why does it bother you and why do you want to fix it? Personally, if a game turns me off because of whatever feature (sometimes for very superficial things), I just move on. What's the drive to change your own mind about that?