Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine
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I remember my physics tearcher talking about the LHC all that time when I was in sixth form and kept on saying that it was deleyed by a part the that the americans didnt build properly, which delayed it by 2 years or somthing. Then all the fools saying it would make a black hole that would kill us all. There is not enough energy in the LHC for such things and the tiny black hole that may be produced would consume itself in mili-seconds. Bloody conspiracy theorists that know nothing of the reality of physics.
No no no no no! Leave time travel alone! If the Prince of Persia Sands of Time trilogy (or any sci-fi you care to name for that matter) has taught us anything it's that time travel causes far more problems than it solves.
This was exactly what i was thinking. We would need the working LHC to get the messages so that means future us is waiting for past us to make it. but it would already be made so they would be getting messages back and forth and...*sigh* paradox achieved brain does not computeFlashHero said:
ATTENTION ESCAPISTSTom Goldman said:
I am an American Prince from the year 2433, and I have an important message. Do you have $10,000 dollars I can borrow to get my dad out of jail? I'll pay you back ten-fold, honest.
I don't believe any messages to the past will succeed or have any impact on us now, primarily because it depends on a predetermined future and between entropy and chaos theory I don't believe there is a predetermined future. Of course that's my opinion and I don't have the scientific backing in theoretical physics to make any substantial claims to this effect, so it could be possible the future is predetermined or that there are infinite futures endlessly branching off from one another or anything in between. Of course I'm biased too, I would very much like to have control over my future.
Any messages of substance immediately contradict their purpose in sending anyway. Say you sent a message with all the outcomes of the research from the LHC experiments back to yourself before you began (most people should know where this is going), because this now means you no longer run the experiments, the results are never formulated and you never send them to yourself. So nothing would happen.
Any messages of substance immediately contradict their purpose in sending anyway. Say you sent a message with all the outcomes of the research from the LHC experiments back to yourself before you began (most people should know where this is going), because this now means you no longer run the experiments, the results are never formulated and you never send them to yourself. So nothing would happen.
What if this is what Ghost are. We actually learned how to send things in the past in the future, so people are playing jokes on us by pretending to be "ghost".
I dont believe that time machines exist, why didnt anyone from the future came back ang gave us a time machine? It would make every thing much more easy. They come to the past with future technology and then go back to their future, their future will be more developed since time went by with the technology that they provided us with.
The only way backwards time-travel could work without any paradoxes is if you actually travelled to an alternate dimension. Travelling back to where you came from would just bring you right back to where you started.
The other dimension will know what it was like to not have Hitler or Stalin, but yours will still have that piece of history and will never, ever go away.
Though I also read once that Stephen Hawking believes that there are mini worm-holes all throughout the universe. They're not big enough for anything more than maybe one atom to travel through though. Though Hawking also points out that if it were possible to expand them, we might be able to have instant-travel systems in the future.
The other dimension will know what it was like to not have Hitler or Stalin, but yours will still have that piece of history and will never, ever go away.
Though I also read once that Stephen Hawking believes that there are mini worm-holes all throughout the universe. They're not big enough for anything more than maybe one atom to travel through though. Though Hawking also points out that if it were possible to expand them, we might be able to have instant-travel systems in the future.
Farewell causality, we hardly knew ye.
Seriously, I can't even begin to wrap my head around the implications this might have.
Seriously, I can't even begin to wrap my head around the implications this might have.
Nooo... that function has not been turned on. The singlet has not yet been found, and the machine has not been calibrated to send or receive them as messages. Until that happens we WON'T receive messages. We'll know whether it works or not the instant we turn it on, because messages from the future should arrive immediately.phoenix352 said:
Well, who's up for destroying the LHC? I just know some asshole will stop WW2 with this. Thing is, if WW2 never happened, I wouldn't have been born. It may sound selfish, but I like existing.
Luddites unite!
Luddites unite!
