Maybe we should send a message back from the future saying, "Higgs singlet sounds fucking stupid, come up with a more dignified name please"
Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine
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that'd be hilarious, i could definitely picture that happening.xXxJessicaxXx said:My money on Higgs singlet hitting Nostradamus right in the face.
OT: if could send myself a message to the past it'd be along the lines of....
LAY OFF THE DAMN PORN, AND GET A LIFE. and tell your parents to invest in Google.
I remember going through the physics dept of college and reading all the theories of time travel. All of them boil down to "Let's do a math equation and arbitrarily call it time travel" I have yet to see any of them with solid, credible explanations. My favorive was "If you travel around the circumference of an infinitly long cylinder." Mathematically it may pan out that the constant they infer to be time goes negative, but I have yet to see anyone in real life take 6 apples from 5 to make negative apples.
Not all math can be applied to the real world. A constant may truely represent a factor we have yet to identify or sometimes it is just how we fudge numbers to make them fit a trend (look at Imaginary Numbers for example)
Not all math can be applied to the real world. A constant may truely represent a factor we have yet to identify or sometimes it is just how we fudge numbers to make them fit a trend (look at Imaginary Numbers for example)
"oh look. A message from my future self. Lets look at what my future holds.....
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But seriously. Even though I don't understand pretty much all of this. The basic point amazes me.
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But seriously. Even though I don't understand pretty much all of this. The basic point amazes me.
Actually it does not necessarily mean it failed it means that the time that is now is not the time that scientists have decided to message who knows maybe they are planning to send a message in a year or maybe even a month or two in the future.Ranorak said:
You've never heard of the Astronomers Brother problem? Very basic, very common in high school physics. How there's twins/brothers/whoever, one goes away in a space ship traveling near the speed of light, another stays on earth and sends messages at one a week. Astronomer is gone for 2 months, how many messages did s/he/it receive.
Answer, time is relative. Simply being in a jet at mach 2, or even a 747 is enough to slow time down for you.
Time machines exist, just not in the "Oh look I've gone back twenty gadzillion years" kind. And even if someone could build them, they wouldn't. Proving the evolution v creation debate would be too much.
Answer, time is relative. Simply being in a jet at mach 2, or even a 747 is enough to slow time down for you.
Time machines exist, just not in the "Oh look I've gone back twenty gadzillion years" kind. And even if someone could build them, they wouldn't. Proving the evolution v creation debate would be too much.
I was talking about telling them hiter was insane and skipping the most part of the holocaust? Why isnt it relevent then... Maybe 3 years before in fact. Dunno why i chose the early-mid stages of the war.Xealeon said:
I see how the Higgs singlet might be able to pass from one time to another, but how could we feasibly ensure that I makes it to a future or past human? Even if those boffins managed to invent a way to send it in a way they know it'll be received either in the past or the future, time and space are not absolute. If we send a message 50 years into the future, for example, planet earth, the sun and all of the solar system will have moved millions of miles away from our current location, which itself is can only measured relatively (with respect to our position in the galaxy, or our galaxy's position in the local group. How would that work?
Creating any kind of legible message, using particles that only theoretically exist and can only be observed via mathematics, is NOT EASY. Even if it were possible, at any indeterminate point IN the future, there is no way we can receive any kind of transmission at this time, and it's likely that if such technology ever develops, then the means of producing and receiving a signal will evolve at the same time. So please stop saying 'It's obviously not going to happen because we haven't got any time travel from the future yet'. It's "obviously not going to happen" because it is ridiculously complex quantum physics and you cannot possibly have any control over something when you cannot predict the outcomes of the system.
I don't think any kind of controllable time machine will ever exist. Perhaps, with great effort and the finest minds of their generation, they could observe a Higgs singlet passing from one point in time to another - but control it? Not a chance.
I don't think any kind of controllable time machine will ever exist. Perhaps, with great effort and the finest minds of their generation, they could observe a Higgs singlet passing from one point in time to another - but control it? Not a chance.
So... you can put something into a 5th dimension and from there it can move backwards and forwards in time,right?
What happens if it moves sideways? SUPERmindf***k.
But in all seriousness, I doubt time travel is possible due to the fact that time is always and will always move in one direction. Sure, time dilation is possible but until my textbook says that Hilter was assassinated by someone wearing a pink frilly tutu, I can safely say that time travel is impossible.
What happens if it moves sideways? SUPERmindf***k.
But in all seriousness, I doubt time travel is possible due to the fact that time is always and will always move in one direction. Sure, time dilation is possible but until my textbook says that Hilter was assassinated by someone wearing a pink frilly tutu, I can safely say that time travel is impossible.
That would be so epic! And the moment they perfect the device they receive a message and it says:
You've doomed us all
Sending messages through time would be enough time travel that we would ever need. All we do is ask ourselves 100 years in the future for all the new scientific discoveries they have made, and repeat, for infinite science.