Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine

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Ranorak

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All in all, we're still left with the big question.

Where did the Song of Storms come from!?
 

Flac00

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wait, the 5th dimension? Holy crap, what ever are the 5 dimensions. I know it is Length, width, height, then what? Like "SPACE WIDTH!!".
 
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well it's going to be pretty damn scary if the first message they get from the future is : "dont send messages"

Coz I get the feeling that that's probably what will happen. Can you imagine how messed up the world would get if we could send messages even a week back in time?

On the one hand we could save millions by predicting disasters like japan, on the other hand... well... I dare not think.
 

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Para199x said:
Tom a Hawk said:
A nice idea, but time travels too much of a headf**k. Even messages would probably just screw things up. First the LHC was set to possibly turn into a black hole, now this? It's more trouble than its worth. Lets put those genius scientists to work doing something useful instead, like giving a Wii game decent graphics.
To quote Brian Cox who is particle physicist, anybody who believes that the LHC will create a black hole is a twat. The LHC is several orders of magnitude below producing even the same sorts of energies as the theoretical Hawking radiation which allows black holes to obey thermodynamics. Also even if it was capable of making one it would be so tiny it would decay nearly instantly due to the said Hawking radiation.
I am sad that there has been only one person to have mentioned thermodynamics.
 

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People keep saying if it could happen we would of seen people messaging us already... Problem is we don't have a receiver yet. Didn't think about that did you?
 

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Verlander said:
I thought this was really old news? Unless this is a new time travelling Hadron theory...
No. This is the first anyone has ever mentioned it ever.
Wait a minute that means. You got a message from the future. AHHHH!
 

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Dunkhelzahn said:
Well, if this Higgs particle does exist, we could have limited time travel - travel from the point the machine was created to - theoretically - the end of time. If data is sent forwards and backwards through time, and we had machines which could replicate the human body (Nanobiotics, perhaps? There would be an issue in maintaining long-term cerebral stability, but still...) then a person in the future could 'time-travel' back to when the machine was first created. All of the data required to create the person (And replicate their brain patterns) would be sent backwards in time using the Higgs Singlet, and when it is received in the 'past' that person could be made on the spot. Technically it's time travel! Kinda.
This post made me lol.

Assuming any of this made sense, why not just send a 1 terabyte harddrive back in time with data? That's muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch simpler than assembling a whole person and the high probability that they won't remember what they need to.

Also, nanobiotics? Really? That's cybernetics. What you're referring to is more analogous to the matter convertors present in Star Trek transporters, but with matter, not energy. That itself presents complications. You would require either a synthetic womb that would generate a person over time or a device capable of creating organic life from elemental ingredients.

I don't know where you get "long-term cerebral stability" from. If the person was constituted as they were when they left, there'd be no problem. They would be assembled from matter from the time they are sent to. If you're think it's like 12 Monkeys, they wouldn't send someone that is mentally unstable to get the job done.

Of course, doing any of this is very unlikely courtesy of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Good luck knowing exactly where an atom is and what it's doing. That's kind of necessary to the assembly of something from elements (which is necessary to do to get everything right.)
 

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my favorite website regarding the large hadron collider

http://www.hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/
 

Gauntes

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back then, i thought to myself; "that could pass as an over-sized flux capacitor".
well damn..
 

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phoenix352 said:
AmrasCalmacil said:
Part of me doesn't like the sound of this. Personally I'd rather leave time travel to The Doctor.

At least we're not gonna send anyone through it to mess up history.

sending anything can get the same result ....
if i send a message to say 1937 and tell them .. kill this Hitler fellow , hes a douche in the making. the entire earth will change.

time travel is just a big ass paradox , also if this is a potential time machine in Theory the fact that we have no messages from the future at this very moment proves we dont invent a time machine ever...
well that depends on how you view time to work. perhaps it would only create an alternate time line in which the event didn't occur. while, if this is how time works then it wouldn't matter for shit cause then there would be an alternate time line for that anyway, just without the note. now if you view it as a set in stone type thing then maybe time travel is possible, it's just that it was supposed to happen, like in Harry Potter. time's a confusing thing, and i don't think we should try to tamper with it until we do understand it. so i think that even if this were to work, and it makes a time machine, then he should automatically smash it, in order to prevent anything bad from happening.

now this 5th dimension that was mentioned, i wonder what that is? perhaps it's nothing but chaos, maybe it's like the outside space that's in the ender's game books, who knows. i think if we do manage to find a 5th dimension we should definitely investigate this right away to at least get a bit of an understanding of what it consists of.
 

crazypsyko666

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Speaking of finding particles that don't exist, why don't we just find the Mass Effect relays and initiate FTL travel, since we're on the subject of theoretically possible but no less crackpot dumbshit ideas.
 

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Faladorian said:
People crying butterfly effect are operating on the theory that time is linear.

Time is just a theory, and there are many theories as to how it acts or if it exists at all. So I guess this is possible, albeit kind of ridiculous.

It seems like the LHC is just a shiny toy people say "it COULD do this!" Then somehow fail to prove it. It hasn't even done its intended job yet.
I agree with this. I'd love to be a theoretical physicist... getting to sit around thinking about stuff that can't be proven wrong so therefore MUST be true...
 

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Oh no, this isn't good. Time travel is the last thing we need right now. If we DO manage to figure that shit out, some moron is going to go back to the past and change some event and screw the entire world up.