I'm someone who's friends you're putting the fear into, that's who I am.The Clown said:Many reasons, who the hell are you?Stephanos132 said:And why are you doing this?The Clown said:Shotgun.Stephanos132 said:@Clown: So, how you going to do it? Poison, slit wrists, hanging?
So you think it's right to make others suffer because you're not very happy? You don't think for a minute it might be worth pressing on for the better tomorrow?The Clown said:nice..... all I wanted to do was say goodbye, if you want to try and guilt me then feel free, I'll shut up and leave you all alone without so much as a whisper if thats what you think is right.Stephanos132 said:I'm someone who's friends you're putting the fear into, that's who I am.The Clown said:Many reasons, who the hell are you?Stephanos132 said:And why are you doing this?The Clown said:Shotgun.Stephanos132 said:@Clown: So, how you going to do it? Poison, slit wrists, hanging?
The only reason I can see is you're an attention seeking bellrider. What right have you to put these people, good people who are willing to contribute their time and energy into making sure you're ok, through the emotional wringer like this? Is this how they treat friends where you come from?
You want to be left alone, don't post crap like this and go quietly then. You think you're the only person who's ever had a bad time of things? Pull the other one. Vast numbers of others have been through much worse, and they managed. If they can do it, so can you, so suck it up and get on with living life rather than lamenting it.The Clown said:@Stephanos132: can you please just leave me alone, I'm sure you're a very nice person but you have to understand, I have tried just living for you guys, but it is no longer enough, if you want me to keep living in misery just to keep you content then you've misunderstood how much pain I'm in, my life is forfeit, please just go.
I'm not going anywhere until you give a solemn promise you're not going to do it. If you want your last memories to be of a belligerent **** like me, you know what to do. If not, then you sit back and think about the ramifications of your actions.The Clown said:I meant YOU leave me alone, you're just making things worse.Stephanos132 said:You want to be left alone, don't post crap like this and go quietly then. You think you're the only person who's ever had a bad time of things? Pull the other one. Vast numbers of others have been through much worse, and they managed. If they can do it, so can you, so suck it up and get on with living life rather than lamenting it.The Clown said:@Stephanos132: can you please just leave me alone, I'm sure you're a very nice person but you have to understand, I have tried just living for you guys, but it is no longer enough, if you want me to keep living in misery just to keep you content then you've misunderstood how much pain I'm in, my life is forfeit, please just go.
like hell you're going anywhere yet.The Clown said:FINE, i'll leave, edit out all my posts and bid you all adew, you REALLY made my last moments good.Mackheath said:You think putting your friends through the emotional wringer is right? You think causing them unnecessary mental suffering is right? Smooth idea.The Clown said:nice..... all I wanted to do was say goodbye, if you want to try and guilt me then feel free, I'll shut up and leave you all alone without so much as a whisper if thats what you think is right.
we understand you are in pain, and I wont start telling you you're not the first nor the last person to be, because I know you probably dont give a shit about that.The Clown said:if you want me to keep living in misery just to keep you content then you've misunderstood how much pain I'm in, my life is forfeit, please just go.
What pain exactly, is he in?steeple said:we understand you are in pain, and I wont start telling you you're not the first nor the last person to be, because I know you probably dont give a shit about that.The Clown said:if you want me to keep living in misery just to keep you content then you've misunderstood how much pain I'm in, my life is forfeit, please just go.
instead, Ill continoue to convince you that you dont have to forfiet your life, and I gave you an example of another way out in the french legion.
you can always contact the red-cross and ask to travel to africa to assist people there, if thats something you feel is a good choice...
my point is, there are plenty of better alternatives...
I cant tell you exactly what he feels, but I can tell you what I felt a few years ago:Stephanos132 said:What pain exactly, is he in?steeple said:we understand you are in pain, and I wont start telling you you're not the first nor the last person to be, because I know you probably dont give a shit about that.The Clown said:if you want me to keep living in misery just to keep you content then you've misunderstood how much pain I'm in, my life is forfeit, please just go.
instead, Ill continoue to convince you that you dont have to forfiet your life, and I gave you an example of another way out in the french legion.
you can always contact the red-cross and ask to travel to africa to assist people there, if thats something you feel is a good choice...
my point is, there are plenty of better alternatives...
Like I've never heard that one before...steeple said:I cant tell you exactly what he feels, but I can tell you what I felt a few years ago:
emptiness in this alien world. like nothing is important (and, really, nothing is really important when put on the cosmic scale)...
Imsorryhappy for you if you cant undersand what it could feel like, to understand that you have no real place in the world
exactly, what matters is the here and now... and when the here and now are fucked up, with no light in the future, why in hell would you care about the fact that you were given life?Stephanos132 said:Like I've never heard that one before...steeple said:I cant tell you exactly what he feels, but I can tell you what I felt a few years ago:
emptiness in this alien world. like nothing is important (and, really, nothing is really important when put on the cosmic scale)...
Imsorryhappy for you if you cant undersand what it could feel like, to understand that you have no real place in the world
I know all too well about the insignifance of man on the cosmic scale, but it goes both ways. By and large, the universe has no meaning in the day to day affairs of everyone. All that matters is here and now, and here and now I'm seeing another fool all too eager to throw his life away for no apparent reason. Such senseless waste should not come to pass.
Clairvoyant are we? How do you or anyone else know what's on the horizon? I'll answer for you: You don't. And if you are so utterly convinced of a dark future, why not take steps to remedy that? If our ancestors gave up as easily as you lot we wouldn't be bloody well here, so maybe we should accept their gift of tomorrow rather than frittering it away.steeple said:exactly, what matters is the here and now... and when the here and now are fucked up, with no light in the future, why in hell would you care about the fact that you were given life?Stephanos132 said:Like I've never heard that one before...steeple said:I cant tell you exactly what he feels, but I can tell you what I felt a few years ago:
emptiness in this alien world. like nothing is important (and, really, nothing is really important when put on the cosmic scale)...
Imsorryhappy for you if you cant undersand what it could feel like, to understand that you have no real place in the world
I know all too well about the insignifance of man on the cosmic scale, but it goes both ways. By and large, the universe has no meaning in the day to day affairs of everyone. All that matters is here and now, and here and now I'm seeing another fool all too eager to throw his life away for no apparent reason. Such senseless waste should not come to pass.
Im just saying that in this situation, trying to make a person ashamed of his actions (or whatever it is you're trying to do) is not the best course of action (as far as I can tell at least, Im not a psychology expert so I can only say what I think is right)
I have to say, I smiled when I read this. this is somewhat close to my feelings about life (though mine are usually presented in a different way, but I digress).Stephanos132 said:Clairvoyant are we? How do you or anyone else know what's on the horizon? I'll answer for you: You don't. And if you are so utterly convinced of a dark future, why not take steps to remedy that? If our ancestors gave up as easily as you lot we wouldn't be bloody well here, so maybe we should accept their gift of tomorrow rather than frittering it away.
As for that fellow, I attacked because of the waste and the additional burden he's creating for people who could do without it. People who are working to create their future. An example he should jolly well follow.
Ah, I get ye now, but the analogy wasn't great, because it just made depression seem too easy to escape from, and, from what I hear, it ain't.steeple said:I have to say, I smiled when I read this. this is somewhat close to my feelings about life (though mine are usually presented in a different way, but I digress).Stephanos132 said:Clairvoyant are we? How do you or anyone else know what's on the horizon? I'll answer for you: You don't. And if you are so utterly convinced of a dark future, why not take steps to remedy that? If our ancestors gave up as easily as you lot we wouldn't be bloody well here, so maybe we should accept their gift of tomorrow rather than frittering it away.
As for that fellow, I attacked because of the waste and the additional burden he's creating for people who could do without it. People who are working to create their future. An example he should jolly well follow.
I was not trying to convince you that the world is fucked up and there is no reason to try to live. on the contrary, I believe me need to live life in enjoyment, and regard even sadness as a blessing to be given.
I was just explaining what it could feel like to stick your mind in the hole that is called depression
sorry to mislead you then.Stephanos132 said:Ah, I get ye now, but the analogy wasn't great, because it just made depression seem too easy to escape from, and, from what I hear, it ain't.
And if it's depression this fella has, surely he's getting help? If not, then why not?