Let's Play: Knights of the Old Republic II: Update 23: The Dark Side of the Force

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Vlad-X7 said:
It seems like the restored content mod might be worth it. Is the voice acting THAT bad? Are there any graphic update mods recommended by anyone?
There's the Restored Content Mod, and then there's an optional addition to it which adds another planet based off notes, but which the resources were never properly developed for. The Vanilla RCM is excellent, makes lots of tweaks here and there, and uses existing voice assets to do what needs doing (there's a great section with HK which didn't exist previously) - it's definitely worth getting. The optional expansion to the RCM with the new planet, being based on unfinished assets as it is, uses creator-recorded voice assets, which are abominable.
 

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Smiley Face said:
There's the Restored Content Mod, and then there's an optional addition to it which adds another planet based off notes, but which the resources were never properly developed for. The Vanilla RCM is excellent, makes lots of tweaks here and there, and uses existing voice assets to do what needs doing (there's a great section with HK which didn't exist previously) - it's definitely worth getting. The optional expansion to the RCM with the new planet, being based on unfinished assets as it is, uses creator-recorded voice assets, which are abominable.
Duly noted. thanks for the assessment - definitely will check it out.
 

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Man loving this post, it has actually inspired me to go through TSLRCM and it's been great. Couldn't find the power source for HK though, so he's still dormant and I'm at Malachor already (yes, I blasted through). Loving this, keep up the good work :)
 

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I say dantooine because thats where i always go first although i almost always do darkside which means that dantooine is usually a bit of a challenge because Vrook is a tough fight but i assume you wont be killing him so thats less of a problem. And id probably grab a lightsaber but thats cause i always like the crafting mechanincs in this one especially with the unique crystal and your mostly light side so if you try you could get the silver color crystal which is awesome in its uniqueness
 

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[HEADING=2]Update 13: Fellowship of the Porn[/HEADING]

Last time, we finally reclaimed our ship, and set off on our quest to find the missing Jedi Masters. As per the vote last time, the first destination of our search is Nar Shaddaa, which is like Detroit if it stretched across an entire planet.

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Just kidding, Detroit. It's more like New Jersey.

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Bob: "So there's a lot of ex-soldiers on Nar Shaddaa?"

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Bob: "So hard it would it be to find a Jedi here?"

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Bob: "You sound like you've been here before."

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Bob: "So, the refugee sector? What's that like?"

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Bob: "Will it be easy for us to hide from the Sith here?"

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Bob: "Then let's take the Ebon Hawk in for a landing."

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Bob: "Oh, for fuck's sake, Atton. Why don't you say 'what could possibly go wrong' on top of that? Saying that is like taunting the universe. It will immediately drop whatever it is doing and make fucking you over it's number one priority."

Atton: "Relax, Bob. What could possibly go wrong?"

Bob: "Goddammit, Atton."

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Meanwhile, in the orbit of the smugglers moon...

Universe: "How do you like this, Atton? You bastard. You fucking asshole."

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???: "Robot slave! Bring me five teenagers with attitude! ...oh, sorry. My day job sometimes bleeds over into this."

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Good lord, woman! That outfit cannot be practical. Not that I'm complaining, but...

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You clearly have not met the crew of the Ebon Hawk.

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Universe: "Ha. Take that, Rand."

Meanwhile, in the Refugee Sector...

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Bob: "Any problems with the dock authorities?"

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Bob: "See, I would classify that as a problem."

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Bob: "Are we gonna be ok on this landing pad?"

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Bob: "Great. Wonderful. Fan-fucking-tastic. Let's just go before the sky falls on our head."

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Bob: "See! Look at this. Someone who isn't bitching constantly. Thank you, Handmaiden. You can stay. Now, let's go find Zez-Kai Ell."

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Bob: "What about the bounty on Jedi? That might be worth investigating."

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Atton: "Both literally and figuratively. There's a prostitute for every fetish here."

Bob: "...how do you know?"

Atton: "Oh! Um, well, y'know, uh...I heard about it. From a friend. Yeah, a friend. A friendly friend."

Bob: "All right then. I have zero desire - no, less than zero - to continue this line of inquiry. Let's just go."

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We begin to head towards the refugee sector, but we are accosted by...well...see for yourself.

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Bob: "Oh, goddammit."

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Bob: "The uh...the Exchange told me I could land here."

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Bob: "Go ahead. I'll just make sure to tell the exchange that you delayed my drop."

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Bob: "I'm sure you'll think of something."

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Gotta love the silence here. He's just thinking "I'm going to wake up in a gutter tommorow, with my spleen about three inches away from the rest of my body."
 

woodaba

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Finally, with all that out of the way, we set off for our adventures on Nar Shaddaa. We're bringing Atton and Bao-Dur with us, because there are a few influence opportunities for the latter and something special here for Atton.

We turn the corner from the landing pad to find an old man being harassed by a group of rough looking aliens.

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Alien: "Our puddle of liquid excrement is far too upper class for you! Go back to your own puddle of liquid excrement!"

Bob: "Eww."

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Bob: "A bunch of corpses, if you don't leave that man alone."

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No. No they cannot.

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Bob: "I suffer from varying degrees of compulsive hero syndrome. I couldn't just stand by and let them hurt you. Why were they hunting you?"

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Bob: "What do you mean?"

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Bob: "You're in luck: we of the Ebon Hawk are professional asshole disposal experts. Simply point us in the direction of this Visquis guy, and we will do what we can to...ah...convince him to stop his dickery. Where can we find him?"

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Man: "So, in other words, in capitalist Nar Shaddaa, Visquis finds you."

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Bob: "Sure. Take five."

Atton: "Oh, thank god. My feet are killing me."

Bob: "We've been walking for about a minute! How can you be tired already!"

Atton: "Hey, it ain't like I've had plenty of opportunity to hit the gym in between being arrested everywhere we go. Besides, I'm still in better shape than your average FPS protagonist, what with their lack of ability to run for more than four seconds at a time."

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Bob: "No problem. I'd like some information, if you would."

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Bob: "Do you know someone named Zen-Kai Ell?"

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Bob: "Actually, never mind. You stay safe now."

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Bob: "That'd be great. Thanks."

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Bob: "Eh. Sure. Take five."

Atton: "Whew! Thank..."

Bob: "ATTON!"

Atton: "Tch. Fine."

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We're about to continue onward, until a familiar voice echoes through our mind.

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Bob: "Kreia? What I have him isn't much - it may help him, if nothing else, then to survive."

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Bob: "And what if he doesn't?"

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Man: "Dammit, where are the others? It's time for a daily Abbey Road album cover homage."

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Dear god, he punched through his stomach! This guy is hardcore!

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This scene serves three distinct purposes. Firstly, it continues to reinforce and inform the Social Darwinist aspect of Kreia's character, though it is presented much more reasonably in this situation, as she argues that her philosophies are not nesecarilly about individual benefit but also creating adversity through which others can strengthen themselves. This is emphasized by the dark side version of this scene, which is triggered by being a dick while refusing the guy your money. In this version of the scene, she calls out the Exile for being an asshole for no good reason, dispelling some ideas that she is the token evil teammate, while simultaneously reinforcing the influence the Exile has over others when his dickery causes the man to take out his frustration on an innocent bystander. Secondly, this scene sums up the game's approach to morality and moral choice perfectly: your choices, good and ill, may not have the results you expected, and things are a little more complex in this game than in KotOR 1 and in the majority of other Star Wars media, and exposing the naivety of the issue of black and white morality in those works and any other that exhibits it.

Finally, it provides an excellent system for Bioware to rip off for Jade Empire. And then completely botch.

Because we want to grant influence with Kreia, we take the path of least resistance.

Bob: "I...will consider what you have said."

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Finally getting a chance to move on, we enter the nearby swoop garage.

Meanwhile, like, 5 inches away...

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???: "Oh boy, it's a good thing he can't hear me, seeing how he's so far away from me and all."

Bob: "Uh, yeah. About that."

???: "Oh, goddammit."

After rifling through the Swoop Garage's boxes for loot, we talk to the resident robot helper.

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Bob: "32nd model? I could make a red-ring joke here, but that'd be too easy."

Atton: "That's never stopped you before."

Bob: "Atton, I'm trying to exhibit a little dignity. Stop being an ass."

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Bob: "Ok then. Well, see you later."

We head to talk to the droid's master.

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Atton: "Oh, great. Apparently, I don't exist."

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Bob: "Dude, he answered a question. He isn't using the war against you, or any such crap. Lighten up."

Bao-Dur: "Tienn always was, for lack of a better word, a whiny little *****."

Bob: "I can see that. Speaking of seeing, Tienn, are you alright?"

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Atton: "Oh, so now you notice me? Little bastard."

Bob: "I...came here to do business."

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Bob: "Depends. What is this place?"

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Bob: "Can you change a ship's ID transponder codes?"

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Bob: "I have money."

Tienn: "Then I shall do it, government peoples be damned! But..."

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Bob: "We'll see what we can do. We'll be back soon enough."
 

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Before we leave, we're stopped by Tienn's droid.

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Atton: "Lemme guess. Big ears felt that the droid wasn't giving him 'due respect', and blew his circuits out with a blaster? Hell, I can't blame him."

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Bob: "What would you like me to do?"

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Bob/Bao-Dur/Atton: "Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure."

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Bob: "Plans? What plans?"

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Translation: Several terabytes of pornography.

Bob: "These plans aren't...dangerous, are they?"

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I stand by my previous assertion. This droid is talking bollocks.

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Okay, that was pretty funny.

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Bob: "That much porn cannot fall into the wrong hands. We shall gladly reclaim this droid!"

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Bob: "Where can I find Kodin?"

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Bob: "You're rather dramatic for a protocol droid."

Droid: "I have to put my acting classes to work somewhere."

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We leave to go track down Kodin, but Bao-Dur interrupts us.

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Bob: "Huh? Yeah, I'm fine. What are you talking about?"

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He's referring to the fact that if you stand idle with our karma level, we kinda glow blue.

Bob: "When one is closely attuned to the force, it can manifest itself visibly. That's why hideously evil people like Emporor Palpatine look really, really ugly."

Bao-Dur: "I thought Palpatine was ugly because he hit himself with his own light-"

NOPE. NEVER HAPPENED.

Bob: "Bao-Dur, maybe you shouldn't piss off the omnipotent narrator."

Bao-Dur: "Duly noted."

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Bob: "Where did you get that remote anyways?"

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Bob: "What does it do? I remember it following you everywhere during the war, but does it do anything else?"

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That done, we finally head out into the mean streets of Nar Shaddaa.

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I like the design of this place. It's kind of a dirty, dinky version of Coruscant, and while I prefer it's planet-wide casino look in The Old Republic, it looks pretty cool here too.

We decide to head to a local swoop club to see what's what.

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Bob: "There's a guy."

Twi'lek: "Yes."

Bob: "On the floor."

Twi'lek: "Yes."

Bob: "Is...is he all right?"

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Bob: "Uh...you the owner of this...establishment?"

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Bob: "Name's Bob. Bob Bindo. Pleased to meet you. And your horizontal friend."

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Bob: "Rare? How so?"

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Bob: "Well...I think I can compete."

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We'll get back to this in a couple of updates. For now, it's time to rescue Tienn's porn stash.

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Bob: "I'm looking for an astromech droid - IT-31, once belonged to Tienn Tubb?"

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Bob: "I don't know. That droid seems to know what I'm talking about."

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Bob: "How about I buy that droid from you?"

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Yeah..."programs". I know what's going on, game.

Bob: "How about 300 credits?"

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Bob: "Fine. I'll return the droid to Tubb."

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Bob: "Chin up, little guy. I negotiated your release."

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Bob: "You're free to go: see you back at Tienn's garage."

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We decide to explore Nar Shaddaa a little more before we head back to Tienn's garage.

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Bob: "I'm finding myself giving a lot of money to strangers in exchange for nothing, today. How much does he owe?"

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Bob: "500 credis? That's a pittance! A pittance, I say! You guys really need to get into the adventuring business.Lots of dead bodies to loot. I wipe my ass with 500 credits in the morning. Here."

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Bob: "You don't have to pay me anything. Just don't get into debts with mobsters."

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Bob: "Nah. I'm just trying to piss off the woman who talks to me that only I can hear."

Man: "...alright. I'm going to leave now."

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Bob: "If someone suffers, they are worth our time."

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Atton: "But I can get behind pissing Kreia off. That is it's own reward."

 

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Nearby, we strike up a conversation with a nearby vendor.

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Bob: "What do you mean, 'veteran of a war yet to come'?"

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Bob: "You're pretty articulate for a Rodian."

Atton: "You're pretty racist for a human."

Bob: "You're pretty shut the fuck up."

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Bob: "So, you're the Rodian equivalent of a furry?"

Atton: "What would that even be? A smoothy? A skinny?"

Bob: "I really don't want to think about this very long. So, you spend a lot of time around humans?"

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We'll come back to this rodian soon. For now, Kreia has more stuff to say to us.

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Bob: "I...I feel this background noise. Like a vibration."

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Bob: "It feels so alive, yet with a desperation about it."

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Bob: "It feels...strange. Tense."

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Bob: "Then, can one control the heart of a world with such feelings?"

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This is a bizzare scene, in that it comes completely out of nowhere, and while it does hold certain foreshadowy elements, it doesn't have them to anywhere near the same degree as one might expect given the placement of this scene. However, I like this scene because it really shows the power of the Jedi. Too often Jedi are just these guys who fight with laser swords and move some objects without touching them. But Jedi are, in reality, incredibly powerful, and, a Jedi clever enough can manipulate the force, the very fabric of life, to godlike proportions. As much as I dislike the story of the Force Unleashed games, they really emphasized just how powerful I imagine a Jedi can be.

We go and speak with a Duros merchant on the other side of the street.

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Bob: "She's a schutta?"

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Bob: "I know what it means. I meant that the Rodian seemed nice to me. Bit odd, but what can you do."

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Bob: "Dude, this is capitalism. If you can't compete, then you lose. Simple. But if she's really hurting your business, maybe I can talk to her. Reach a compromise."

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Bob: "All right. I'll go talk with her."

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Bob: "Y'know that Duros across the way offered me a discount to deal with you?"

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Bob: "Well, we'll see. I think the Narrator has to consult his fellow interdimensional superbeings before making any kind of decision like this."

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Well, I'll leave this one up to you. Though, be warned, deciding which of these shopkeepers to screw over is a choice upon which rests the fate of the entire universe. Entire civilizations rest upon this choice, and making the wrong one could spell doom for the entire omniverse. Existence itself is in your hands, my friends. But right now, we have an even more important goal. We must ensure Tienn's porn is returned to him.

On the way, we run into this scene.

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Squik? His name is Squick?

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No comment.

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Squick attempts to dodge the Trandoshan's axe, but unfortunately, he fails.

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Squik: "Ugh...remember me...as an incredible character."

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Trandoshan: "So sayeth Mr.Mohawk."

And, without having the slightest idea of what just happened, we have to murder some gangsters.

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Atton: "Bob! This is a firefight! Stop practicing your goddamn gymnastics!"

We finish off the remaining gangsters, and continue onwards, but it isn't long before we are interrupted AGAIN.

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Bob: "What makes you think the ship is yours?"

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Bob: "If you can prove the ship is yours, I'll give it back to you."

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Bob: "Ooh, I didn't know about the cargo hatch."

Atton: "I did, but you shouldn't look in there! There's stuff in there. Personal stuff. Besides..."

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Bob: "Can I buy it from you?"

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Bob: "sigh Fine. Take it."

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Bob: "Relax, this KotOR, not Ultima. There's no way the designer would implement a way to intentionally screw yourself over from ever finishing the game. Something will work out in our favor."

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Bob: "Atton, would you mind restraining your homicidal rage for like, five minutes?"

FINALLY, without any further interruptions, we head over to Tienn's garage.

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Bob: "What about the porn? Is it safe?"

Droid: "There was no..."

Bob: "-glare-"

Droid: "Er...yes. It is safe."

Bob: "Oh, thank god. High fives all round, everyone! We did it."

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Bob: "All right, let's go, everyone. I need a drink."

And thusly, we head to the local cantina.

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NEXT TIME: Atton finally reveals what his deal is, we become a pimp, and the dreaded Pazaak strikes back.

Question Time! Now that Microsoft has backpedaled on their DRM policies, the console wars are looking much more evenly matched than they were a week ago. Therefore, have any of you decided which console you are going to get? Xbox One, PS4, both, or none? Personally, I think I'm going to get the PS4 first, mainly because PS+ is a much better deal than Xbox Live, but also because I've been really dissatisfied with the 360s exclusives these past couple of years, and the promise of Halo Whatever isn't enough to make me slap down £430 for something less powerful than the cheaper option.
 

CC17

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First, great update!! :)

I favour siding with Geeda, just because that Duros is a complete and utter dick.

And I'm going PS4 too, being £80 less and PS+ being amazing swung it for me. High five!!
 

BrotherRool

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The Old Republic! I want to walk around on these planets so much, but I can't face the idea of actually having to play the game to do it. I actually wish they'd stuck with KotoR combat, at least it feels a little bit Star Warsy if nothing else whereas under the TOR system manipulating the force doesn't feel any different at all from a soldier being able to run very fast or create their own cover. (Plus the way they totally ignore the fact it's an MMO that got to me)

A lot of people take that beggar scene as a vindication of Kreia, but I always thought it was a little too forced to actually prove her right. You could be making the beggar a target, or he may just get one night sleeping on a full stomach, or used it to start some wacky adventure which led to him setting up an orphanage. As a result I was never really a fan of it. I do like that it makes you think, if you didn't think about it and the issue wasn't raised it's sweeping genuine points under the rug for sake of convenience, but you don't have to think about it and necessarily agree.


I'm going to get a PS4, I always was in honesty Sony would have had to severely screw up for that not to be the case, I don't think there was much Microsoft could do DRM or no DRM. Even if it were more expensive, Sony have Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch and Quantic Dream. Locking myself out of Naughty Dog's games for 5 years seems silly.

Whereas on the Microsoft side only Remedy are left now with a track record of producing interesting games. Even if I liked Halo, Bungie left and I don't consider 343 Industries to have proven themselves yet. And if you compare Remedy and Quantic Dream, both make brilliant but highly flawed games, however Quantic Dream's mistakes are still interesting whereas Remedy's missteps led to hours and hours of holding a cursor over unchanging enemies again and again with little to no variation, which really got in the way of Alan Wake's good points.
 

woodaba

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BrotherRool said:
The Old Republic! I want to walk around on these planets so much, but I can't face the idea of actually having to play the game to do it. I actually wish they'd stuck with KotoR combat, at least it feels a little bit Star Warsy if nothing else whereas under the TOR system manipulating the force doesn't feel any different at all from a soldier being able to run very fast or create their own cover. (Plus the way they totally ignore the fact it's an MMO that got to me)
The fact that TOR is an MMO is easily it's biggest problem. The class storylines are really good, it's visually great, with a good art style meshing well with breathtaking environments, but it's combat falls into dull hotkey-bashing MMO tedium, and the raids and operations are way too easy. If TOR was a single player game, it would be fantastic. Right now, it's just a mediocre MMO worth playing only for it's 'single-player' storylines.

A lot of people take that beggar scene as a vindication of Kreia, but I always thought it was a little too forced to actually prove her right. You could be making the beggar a target, or he may just get one night sleeping on a full stomach, or used it to start some wacky adventure which led to him setting up an orphanage. As a result I was never really a fan of it. I do like that it makes you think, if you didn't think about it and the issue wasn't raised it's sweeping genuine points under the rug for sake of convenience, but you don't have to think about it and necessarily agree.
Almost TOO contrived, you might say. Almost as if someone else is directing the situation to go a specific way. We know that Kreia can manipulate minds, what's the mind of a beggar against teaching her favored student of her ways?

I'm going to get a PS4, I always was in honesty Sony would have had to severely screw up for that not to be the case, I don't think there was much Microsoft could do DRM or no DRM. Even if it were more expensive, Sony have Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch and Quantic Dream. Locking myself out of Naughty Dog's games for 5 years seems silly.

Whereas on the Microsoft side only Remedy are left now with a track record of producing interesting games. Even if I liked Halo, Bungie left and I don't consider 343 Industries to have proven themselves yet. And if you compare Remedy and Quantic Dream, both make brilliant but highly flawed games, however Quantic Dream's mistakes are still interesting whereas Remedy's missteps led to hours and hours of holding a cursor over unchanging enemies again and again with little to no variation, which really got in the way of Alan Wake's good points.
While I wasn't a fan of the Uncharted games, I've really enjoyed the Last of Us so far, and am excited to see where Naughty Dog is going to go on the PS4. As for Quantic Dream and Remedy, I think you hit the nail on the head. All of the games the two studios have made have been based on excellent ideas that end up being failures on release, but the differences is that while every Quantic Dream game I've played from Omikron onwards has been an utter train wreck, they've at least been interesting train wrecks. Farenheit in particular is a fascinating case study of just how utterly mental a story can get without proper pacing. I mean, it's a game that begins with you unwittingly murdering a guy, and ends with you FIGHTING THE INTERNET.
 

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I'm sticking with my plan to get a PS4. Microsoft went too far when they announced this stuff, and pulling the DRM is just because they're falling behind in pre-order sales.
 

The_Lost_King

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PS4 has Infamous Second Sons. I'm obviously going to get a ps4. Plus ps+ > xb gold.

I think you should help Geeda. You get better stuff in the long run.
 

Smiley Face

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woodaba said:
BrotherRool said:
The Old Republic! I want to walk around on these planets so much, but I can't face the idea of actually having to play the game to do it. I actually wish they'd stuck with KotoR combat, at least it feels a little bit Star Warsy if nothing else whereas under the TOR system manipulating the force doesn't feel any different at all from a soldier being able to run very fast or create their own cover. (Plus the way they totally ignore the fact it's an MMO that got to me)
The fact that TOR is an MMO is easily it's biggest problem. The class storylines are really good, it's visually great, with a good art style meshing well with breathtaking environments, but it's combat falls into dull hotkey-bashing MMO tedium, and the raids and operations are way too easy. If TOR was a single player game, it would be fantastic. Right now, it's just a mediocre MMO worth playing only for it's 'single-player' storylines.
I only started playing SWTOR when it hit F2P, because I don't like MMOs, but still wanted to play it to see how things went. I took it in doses for a while, and haven't got back to it in months, but I will eventually, because the storylines really are quite interesting - but I care not one whit for the multiplayer aspect of it. This new batch of quasi-MMOs coming out is interesting though - Elder Scrolls Online, Journey - they've got MMO elements, but it seems like they'll be blurring the line to some degree or another - also, they'll be on consoles, which should prove interesting. Maybe they'll manage to pull me into the multiplayer elements, maybe they'll stand well as single-player-like experiences, or maybe neither will shine enough to get me in - but at least there's a possibility I'll enjoy the gameplay, unlike SWTOR, where I knew exactly what I was in for.

As for Geeda, she doesn't pay off until later, but when she does, I think she's the only source of the Pacifist Module, which I'm dying to see. Generally, when I hit Nar Shaddaa, I talk to the Duros WITHOUT talking to the Geeda, buy all the stuff of his I want, then help Geeda out, because after that point you can't buy from him - but unlike Geeda, he doesn't upgrade is wares, and is a total asshole.

Oh, and Xbone/PS4. I'm a 360 player, but my god, the Xbone just set off so many alarm bells that it scared me the hell off - plus, ultimately, you pick your console based on the exclusives, and in the past few years, the 360 has had few exclusives I cared for - shooters, yeah, but fuck shooters - whereas the PS3 has always had great exclusive franchises, and just keeps dishing them out (I REALLY want to play The Last of Us, dammit). So yeah, unless the PS4 turns out to run off the life force of puppies, I'm probably going that way.
 

AD-Stu

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Cool update :)

I vote to help the rodian because the duros strikes me as a massive toolbox.

As for the consoles, this generation as with most previous generations I'm going to just stick with my PC :)

woodaba said:
Almost TOO contrived, you might say. Almost as if someone else is directing the situation to go a specific way. We know that Kreia can manipulate minds, what's the mind of a beggar against teaching her favored student of her ways?
I dunno if that's how it was intended to work or not but even the thought... that is so damn cool.

When I first played this game it was immediately after I'd played KOTOR1 (came to the series late, so I finished KOTOR1 one day then literally went out the next day, got this game and installed it, pre-restored content mod) so I guess I was still in more of the Bioware mindset, and I simply couldn't stand Kreia as a character. She struck me as being like one of those annyoing kids that's always asking "why? why? why?" just to get a rise out of you. She's definitely grown on me over time though :)
 

Reven

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Personally i would like it if you added the WiiU since it is a next gen console :p I personally grabbed a wiiu, but between the xbox and ps4 id say ps4 all the way, it's cheaper, more powerful, and has features that i feel are much better. I might eventually grab an xbox one once the price for it drops to what i would consider reasonable for a purchase.
 

Snograt

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Already have the WiiU - and have the PS4 and XBone on preorder.

Why? I dunno. I hardly play the PS3 or the 360, apart from retro stuff. I think I'm a collectoholic.

Keep up the great LPing - I've just read your 9 months of work in three days, so it's going to be slow moving from here on.
 

iwinatlife

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I Say Geeda cause i think you can get something shiny from her and if not that yeah the duros is a dick so Geeda
 

Smiley Face

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Whoa, something's up with the screens, anyone else getting that or is it just me? Not just this past one too - all the ones in the thread.
 

woodaba

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Smiley Face said:
Whoa, something's up with the screens, anyone else getting that or is it just me? Not just this past one too - all the ones in the thread.
Photobucket has just informed me that I have used up all of my bandwidth for my account, so that may be what is going on. Hopefully the situation should be resolved today, but I apologize for the inconvenience.