Let's Play: Knights of the Old Republic II: Update 23: The Dark Side of the Force

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Even now, we see how tragic it is that this game was rushed. Kreia's line there, as well as the docking sequence for this spaceship, is brilliant for creating tension, but the entire sequence was cut from the game.

At any rate, a chap who looks like the Nameless One has arrived, and Kreia doesn't appear too happy about it. Or maybe she's jubilant. It's hard to tell with her.

At any rate, we can't deal with that now, so let's focusing on rescuing the miners.





But, as par for the course, we're gonna have to hack our way through a metric fuck-ton of droids, first.







Dealing with the first bunch of robots, we find a corpse just ahead. This doesn't bode well. Maybe some Miners are still kicking further in? Ah well, let's loot his corpse.



This datapad is in an unusual state. It is covered with blood, however, the blood is frozen onto the pad, and the screen itself is frosted. However, you still manage to make out the text on it, with some effort.

"...now the fire suppression systems have gone active, and I can't even make it to the dormitory section - I watched the turrets turn their carbonite freeze rays on Maban before he even got halfway across the room. Fortunatly, their range doesn't seem to go beyond the room itself, so I was able to remain safe in the corridor... but I didn't have any ranged weapons to take them out from a distance, or a stealth field generator to sneak past them.

I tried to unlock the storage room door to see if there were any cold-resistant items or grenades I could use, but the door was sealed from the lockdown. I don't know enough about security systems to open it, and I don't have a sonic charge to blow it open.

Still, as long as the droids don't make it into this section, everything should be all right."

Let's add that one to the Big Book of Famous Last Words, eh?

After looting the storage locker using the security skill our deceased friend lacked, we proceed onwards.



These things are a pain in the ass. They freeze you with ease, which lasts for a good couple of turns, so you need to get in quick and finish them off before they get a lucky string of rounds. Luckily, they aren't too tough, so Bob can sprint up to them and smash them up without too much difficulty.





Once we finish the turrets off, we have to deal with their legged buddies.







That done, we find and access a nearby console.









Aha, let's use the comm controls to call out to the miners.



Or not. This does not bode well.



After unlocking the door to the dormitories, we find this interesting little tidbit.





Keep that in mind for later.























OH GOD HE STARES INTO THE SOULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL







One by one, we see the miners fall. Well...that was dark. And that's just the start of this game's steady march into the pits of despair.

Thoroughly depressed, we proceed to the dorms, and loot the bodies of the rotting dead. This is such a cheery game, isn't it?





We return to the console, and plug in the datapads we find.













Oh yes, the whole galaxy. Sullustrans are not prone to hyperbole, apparently.









Woah, woah, woah. What? Was it the maintenance officer all along?...





...or was it someone who could mimic the Maintenance Officer's voice perfectly?





Coorta gives the Sullustran a big whack on the head, presumably killing him.





Well, I guess this is when Coorta pulled his little coup. But, where is he now?















Oh god, he's turning into a Sith!











...and then he dies horribly. The end. Add another Famous Last Word to the list.

After fighting our way through a metric fuck-load of robots, we find another datapad.





No info on Coorta yet. Maybe once we get to the lift, we'll find out more...



...oh. Well...I guess that answers our question.



We access the camera logs on the nearby computer, to find out what exactly went down here.





That's the maintenance officer's voice.















That moment when you realize you're going to die horribly.










Yeah, we all knew. But still, pretty awesome reveal.





Cue the sound of lazers and people screaming and dying. Alas, Coorta. We hardly knew ye.





Alright, so, now we gotta open the turbolift door. We see the code in it's raw form in our journal, like this:

...
-X..
-...
X
X..

If the administrator is correct, then the first three numbers are 3, 17, and 13. That would mean that a dot means 1, the X means 5, and the dash means 10. That way, we can surmise that the code is 3, 17, 13, 5, and 7. But wait! HK said he reversed the code. So, we key in 7, 5, 13, 17 and 3.



...and the door slides open. Please though, no more maths, game. It makes me brain all hurty.

We take the turbolift up to the administration level, where Kreia is waiting for us.





"Enemy? You mean the psychotic robot who killed everyone here?"



"Wait - who is this enemy?"



"All right. Let's go. But I want to hear the whole story later."





Kreia has officially joined our party! She's a Jedi Consular, and she gives an experience boost to everyone in your party as long as she's there. She's probably going to become a mainstay in our party for a large portion of the game.



We make our way to the airlock, and Atton.







You just know he's been looking up Twi'lek porn this entire time.



"Atton, there's no time to explain. Grab a weapon, and follow me."



"Apparently not."





"I think we're all going to get along swimmingly."



Atton has joined our party! He's a Scoundrel, specced to Dual-Wielding, and has the unique ability of being unable to fall in battle unless he's the last one standing. It's bugged like hell though, even in the Restored Content, so it's inadvisable to rely on it, or try to abuse it.





"See, HK, it's not a veiled threat if you just say "Threat:" at the start of the sentence. It is an unveiled threat. A revealed threat, one might say. Besides, you were clear, but I don't make a habit of listening to Assassin droids."





"You were the one who mimicked the maintenance officer's voice to take control of the droids and kill all the miners in med bay, then?"











"Guess you didn't account for high level on the badassery chart. Why did you want to capture me?"



"What could a droid possibly need with money?"

"Hesitant Explanation: Oil is not cheap."



"Well, you found me. Obviously, I didn't do a very good job."





"Who is this client of yours?"



"Oh, you son of a *****."



"So, what now? Are you going to kill me?"



"I'm tired of listening to you anyway - prepare to be scrapped."







The three musketeers V an assassin droid. Who will win? Find out...right now.

HK himself is not particularly hard, the hard thing is trying to keep Bob and Kreia away from the mines long enough for Atton to shoot them.



Kreia, you're not a tank. Stop trying to be one.



Once you wear down his defenses, HK-50 (so it's not HK-47, hmm) isn't too hard. He can deal quite a lot of damage with his blaster, so the best thing to do is get in close and personal. He's highly resistant to the Stun Droid power, which might make things a tad more difficult for Consulars.



Dammit, Bob, now is not the time for breakdancing!



Oh, shit.

"Oh, shit."

"Oh, shit."

"Oh, excrement."



Thankfully, however, we manage to escape the blast, and look damn good doing it.

"Looks like the Hunted as become the Hunter, HK-50."

"Really? That was the best line you could come up with?"

"Shut up, Atton."



We loot what remains of HK-50, and make a run for the airlock.

Next time, we leave Peragus. Forever.


A little question time to finish off the update. The recent big news in the Star Wars world is that Disney has bought Lucasfilm, and is starting production on Star Wars: Episode VII. What do you think of this development. Personally, I think it may be the best thing to happen to Star Wars in a long time, after all, Lucasfilm haven't made a generally well-recieved film in almost 20 years. It think it's high time someone slapped some sense into them. Still, I wish they didn't just go right for the new trilogy. I hoped they would finally do this Live-action series that's been talked about for years, but I guess that isn't quite as headline making as "New Star Wars trilogy". There's every chance Disney will fuck it up, but seeing as they were responsible for the Avengers, I think it's in safer hands than at Skywalker Ranch.
 

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I think...
I'm just going to have to wait and see.

It's about time you updated; how 'bout that Halo 4, eh?

Rest in piece, HK-50. Your genre-savviness shall not be forgotten.
Seriously, that's the most methodical and efficient way of subjugating the entire station before your target even wakes up. He would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for Kreia.
All these entities playing chess-for-keeps, and Bob Bindo is both the pot and the King it seems.
 

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sage42 said:
woodaba said:
Evolutionary High said:
Finally got Atton's backstory, wow was that rewarding.

Totally didn't expect him to be what the was, that was outta left-field. The man is cold-blooded. He's easily better than Carth.
Yeah, it's one of the great surprises of the game.

The fact that the game does everything in it's power to convince you he's nothing more than a Han Solo stand in, then hits you with THAT curveball, is really something else.
You think that was a surprise, wait until we get the Handmaiden's back story. That one may make heads pop.
The best part? When Avellone was confronted with that, all he had to say was "Can't comment... but nice catch."

Damn they love to tease us.

Scorchy's Let's Play is pretty much required reading for anyone wanting to analyze this game.
 

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Aaahhh - see, Peragus is much more enjoyable in this format, where I don't have to sit through all the combat grind and endless running about. Instead we just get to enjoy the writing :)

As for Disney, I'm cautiously optimistic about what they'll produce.
 

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This is awesome! I especially loved the line that included "WHY DO PEOPLE HATE THIS GAME?"

I sure hope I can get an Xbox sometime this year in time for Winter break. What better game to enjoy than this :D !?

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HK-50 isn't very good at keeping things hidden is he? Everything he said was almost him revealing what he did. You would think an assassin droid of his caliber would be able to keep a secret.

Was it ever explained how HK-47's schematics got out to produce the HK-50s. I thought that Revan was the only one that ever had an HK droid.

As for the Disney thing. Like everyone else just waiting with careful optimism. Not much information to decide yet. Not sure how I feel about them getting Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, or Carrie Fisher. If they play a small role, that would be cool. Would like to see a new story with new characters.
 

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SantoUno said:
This is awesome! I especially loved the line that included "WHY DO PEOPLE HATE THIS GAME?"

I sure hope I can get an Xbox sometime this year in time for Winter break. What better game to enjoy than this :D !?

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I actually wouldn't advise getting the Xbox version, if at all possible. It's still a great game, but the combat is just unplayable. The framerate tanks hard if you get into any kind of fight more taxing than a couple of mooks, the music and sound assets will fade in and out when they feel like it, and, of course, you can't use the Restored Content Mod to bring back a lot of the missing content, such as quests, plotlines, character arcs, and an actual ending. The PC version is much more stable, but both are still great.
 

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sage42 said:
woodaba said:
Evolutionary High said:
Finally got Atton's backstory, wow was that rewarding.
You think that was a surprise, wait until we get the Handmaiden's back story. That one may make heads pop.

Ughh...too late....it seems I've been hanging out with hottie Visas for too long (actually it was only 2 missions or so). And now Handmaiden won't talk to me anymore. Oh well...I'll get it on the next playthrough. Handmaiden is still my favorite character in the game though.

I've just completed the Nar Shadaar portion (I think), I got Go-To in my party.

Now that's an interesting guy. He captures your you, tries to kill your party, and offers to help you AND threatens to kill you at the same time. Wow, I think he just might be my favorite behind Handmaiden.
 

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woodaba said:
I actually wouldn't advise getting the Xbox version, if at all possible. It's still a great game, but the combat is just unplayable. The framerate tanks hard if you get into any kind of fight more taxing than a couple of mooks, the music and sound assets will fade in and out when they feel like it, and, of course, you can't use the Restored Content Mod to bring back a lot of the missing content, such as quests, plotlines, character arcs, and an actual ending. The PC version is much more stable, but both are still great.
Well seeing as how I played KOTOR 2 and still enjoyed every second of it (seriously), I didn't find the combat unplayable. I am aware of all the technical problems, but funnily enough I've gotten so used to them I actually expect them now with little to no problem. Ironically they became "ingrained" into the fond memories I had of that game haha.

And OF COURSE I would get the PC version if I could! I WANT to play the RC mod sooo badly, but alas, this mortal does not have a computer fit for gaming. Hell I was barely able to run KOTOR 1 on this old laptop when I got it off Steam, and even then the onscreen graphics went haywire around the time I got to Dantooine so I was forced to stop playing.
 

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SantoUno said:
woodaba said:
I actually wouldn't advise getting the Xbox version, if at all possible. It's still a great game, but the combat is just unplayable. The framerate tanks hard if you get into any kind of fight more taxing than a couple of mooks, the music and sound assets will fade in and out when they feel like it, and, of course, you can't use the Restored Content Mod to bring back a lot of the missing content, such as quests, plotlines, character arcs, and an actual ending. The PC version is much more stable, but both are still great.
Well seeing as how I played KOTOR 2 and still enjoyed every second of it (seriously), I didn't find the combat unplayable. I am aware of all the technical problems, but funnily enough I've gotten so used to them I actually expect them now with little to no problem. Ironically they became "ingrained" into the fond memories I had of that game haha.
I see where you're coming from: a lot of the technical issues in K2 are just part of the charm for me. I have not played the Xbox version since it came out, but I distintlyt remember the framerate tanking to almost 0 in combat. As for not being able to play the RC, well, that's what I'm here for!
 

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Evolutionary High said:
I know most of us have played the game before, but you might want to spoiler stuff like that just in cse there's anyone who's seeing the game for the first time in this thread...
 

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woodaba said:
Chris Avellone: (wink wink, nudge nudge)

Yes, Chris, I think we've figured it out.

"How rude. Just for that, I'm going to impale all the love interests from Project Eternity on pikes."
I really doubt there is going to be a love interest in Project Eternity. I remember something about Chris, or someone on Obsidian said something along the lines of , "I am terrible at making relationship where one or both of the people end up dead" That kind of kills any hopes of romantic interests. The closest thing you get in KotOR 2 are Handmaiden, Visas, and the Nameless One.

sage42 said:
woodaba said:
Evolutionary High said:
Finally got Atton's backstory, wow was that rewarding.
You think that was a surprise, wait until we get the Handmaiden's back story. That one may make heads pop.
Well, GO-TO's background really suprised me. It made my head pop way more than that one surprise with Handmaiden.
 

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The_Lost_King said:
woodaba said:
Chris Avellone: (wink wink, nudge nudge)

Yes, Chris, I think we've figured it out.

"How rude. Just for that, I'm going to impale all the love interests from Project Eternity on pikes."
I really doubt there is going to be a love interest in Project Eternity. I remember something about Chris, or someone on Obsidian said something along the lines of , "I am terrible at making relationship where one or both of the people end up dead" That kind of kills any hopes of romantic interests. The closest thing you get in KotOR 2 are Handmaiden, Visas, and the Nameless One.
If there are going to be love interests in Project Eternity, I don't want Chris Avellone to write them. He's excellent at tragic romances, but a straight romance...

(remembers Neverwinter Nights 2's OC, and shudders)

...I don't want THAT to happen again.
 

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Here's an older quote from Avellone on writing love interests in games (borrowed from Scorchy's LP of this game):

"I wished I believed in romance more than Bioware. I just can't write it unless one of the pair gets impaled on a pike, set on fire, or betrays the other and then impales them on a pike or sets them on fire. Generally, I prefer unrequited, melancholy, quiet suffering whenever possible, which really doesn't go over well with a lot of the role-players out there."
 

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AD-Stu said:
Here's an older quote from Avellone on writing love interests in games (borrowed from Scorchy's LP of this game):

"I wished I believed in romance more than Bioware. I just can't write it unless one of the pair gets impaled on a pike, set on fire, or betrays the other and then impales them on a pike or sets them on fire. Generally, I prefer unrequited, melancholy, quiet suffering whenever possible, which really doesn't go over well with a lot of the role-players out there."
I think that could be said for Avellone's general writing style. I haven't played a single game he had a hand in where I didn't want to slit my wrists at some point.

Dah'kon's backstory. Way to make me feel like an asshole for recruiting party members, game.

The beggar incident on Nar Shadda. You know what i'm talking about.

Handing Cass over to the Van Graffs. Let's just say a Roaring Rampage of Revenge followed.

The ending where all of Mike's friends betray him or die and he's left alone on the boat, talking to himself :( What makes it worse is that it's actually a very easy ending to get playing a "nice guy" playthrough, emphasizing the sadness.

Still love the guy, and it's nice to get a break from Bioware's sometimes diabetes inducing Romance subplots, (here's looking at you, Dragon Age 2) but geez, the man takes a perverse pleasure in making us watch NPCs we care about suffer horribly.
 

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There was no "romance" in the first KOTOR.

If you call that Bastila-kiss-I love you - scene to be romance. It was just a sudden "out of character" moment where she burst out her feelings for you for no apparent reason.

There is no reason why Bastila should have fallen in love with you in KOTOR. I just could not see a reason. And the last fight in the Star Forge where she tells you she loves you, SECONDS after she tried to kill you......


The Carth-female Revan romance made a lot of more sense actually. You both are on the run, all starting from scratch, lost everything.....
 

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Evolutionary High said:
If you call that Bastila-kiss-I love you - scene to be romance. It was just a sudden "out of character" moment where she burst out her feelings for you for no apparent reason.

There is no reason why Bastila should have fallen in love with you in KOTOR. I just could not see a reason. And the last fight in the Star Forge where she tells you she loves you, SECONDS after she tried to kill you......
No kidding, Bastila's love confession felt so incredibly out of place, especially, since throughout the whole game, the times I acted nice towards her can be counted on one hand. I just found her insufferable, and looked forward to beating her.

"After all this, do you still love me?"

ಠ_ಠ You b**** better be kidding me
 

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Just found out about G0T0's backstory

wtf he's like the most interesting character in the whole freaking game!!

I think most people who play the game don't even talk to him....

So he's responsible for nearly half the things that are happening to you huh.

Was he responsible for the droids attacking you on Peragus as well?