Let's talk about Hell, baby.
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Thanks for sharing, Griever18. You have to love fundies resorting to scare tactics to convert people because plain ol' conversation and intelligent discussion is far too involving! I was going to link to the snopes page on this story, but D-Mic beat me to it.
Anyhow, I love how the video maker makes the connection between tube worms and Mark 9:48 - it just screams paranoid reasoning. Sad, too, because the guy does come off as well-intentioned, in a nutty, Jack Chick sort-of-way. It kind of annoys me - so I've known my fair share of VEEEERY religious folks who are so nice and sweet but want nothing more than you to dedicate every last thing you do to their church AND ONLY THEIR CHURCH INITIATIVES. Good to see sane heads among Christians & co who prevail enough to point out and mock these things.
Anyhow, I love how the video maker makes the connection between tube worms and Mark 9:48 - it just screams paranoid reasoning. Sad, too, because the guy does come off as well-intentioned, in a nutty, Jack Chick sort-of-way. It kind of annoys me - so I've known my fair share of VEEEERY religious folks who are so nice and sweet but want nothing more than you to dedicate every last thing you do to their church AND ONLY THEIR CHURCH INITIATIVES. Good to see sane heads among Christians & co who prevail enough to point out and mock these things.
This video is pretty screwed up in a lot of ways.
The Christian perspective on hell has evolved far beyond the simple hellfire that sinners are cast into at the center of the earth.
(mainly because it had to, seeing as Hell was only described in concept in the bible, which is effective really seeing as if it does exist it would most likely be beyond our comprehension.)
The modern perception usually gravitates around the ideas that the true suffering of hell is caused the the knowledge of one's eternal separation from God and that no one goes to hell without choosing it in some way (but, what constitutes that choice is a topic of heated debate even today)
Also another thing that should be pointed out is that almost every (there are exceptions to everything) devout Christian is devout out of love for God and not fear of hell, especially in the Protestant secs.
Sorry to get all religious on you, but just thought that a few people might appreciate the context of something like this in the perspective held by a majority modern Christian faiths.
The Christian perspective on hell has evolved far beyond the simple hellfire that sinners are cast into at the center of the earth.
(mainly because it had to, seeing as Hell was only described in concept in the bible, which is effective really seeing as if it does exist it would most likely be beyond our comprehension.)
The modern perception usually gravitates around the ideas that the true suffering of hell is caused the the knowledge of one's eternal separation from God and that no one goes to hell without choosing it in some way (but, what constitutes that choice is a topic of heated debate even today)
Also another thing that should be pointed out is that almost every (there are exceptions to everything) devout Christian is devout out of love for God and not fear of hell, especially in the Protestant secs.
Sorry to get all religious on you, but just thought that a few people might appreciate the context of something like this in the perspective held by a majority modern Christian faiths.
Exactly, I've always maintained that kids are the most terrible STD ever. The most insidious thing about them is that they often manage to make the host feel some affection towards them, allowing them to grow to the stage where it's possible to legally cure yourself. Illegally however... just don't tell the cops to look in the garden, under the rosebushes, ok?MaxTheReaper said:
Wow, I dropped the ball big time. Though in my defense, it's been a while since I read the article and I thought I remembered it having something about it in there.theklng said:
How did he get the sounds of my nightlife?
To be honest, though, Hell must be horrible.
I'd be there torturing you and all...
Edit: Anyways, claiming that it's Hell is a fatal flaw to their own religion. The afterlife is meant to be a spiritual plane, not a physical one. If that's Hell, then rightfully, we should be able to find "God" and heaven somewhere out in our Universe. However, no sign of it has ever been found, and by their own beliefs, rightfully so.
There is no physical manifestation of their Heaven or Hell, and they know it.
To be honest, though, Hell must be horrible.
I'd be there torturing you and all...
Edit: Anyways, claiming that it's Hell is a fatal flaw to their own religion. The afterlife is meant to be a spiritual plane, not a physical one. If that's Hell, then rightfully, we should be able to find "God" and heaven somewhere out in our Universe. However, no sign of it has ever been found, and by their own beliefs, rightfully so.
There is no physical manifestation of their Heaven or Hell, and they know it.
O.0 Shit! I'd rather be with the fundie religious peoples than the fundie athiestsEdje said:
Yeah, most people still think Christians have the old view of fire and brimstone, which is just more ignorance on their part. Views on Christianity have become more metaphorical than literal (think Medieval, then now), which is good because the Bible is historical (viewpoints) and fictional (lessons/morals) at once.Heard a Hutterite (spelled wrong probably. They're like the Amish, but they're really common in some areas of Canada) priest say that they made their children fear God. Even if I don't have a definite religion, I got extremely pissed off. It was/is wrong on so many levels.
If God Of War is anything to go by... there is alot of thing trying to kill you... After you've died... sounds like a blast of a place..
two things
1) hell is only an hours drive from me, and apparently that town kicks ass
2) i read this somewere, dont know if its true but, i read that they never actually mention hell in the bible, they mention the devil but never hell.
1) hell is only an hours drive from me, and apparently that town kicks ass
2) i read this somewere, dont know if its true but, i read that they never actually mention hell in the bible, they mention the devil but never hell.
Hell wouldn't be a bad place to be, at least they have all the sex, drugs and evil rock and roll there. To meet Freddie Mercury, John Lennon and Marylin Monroe (What? According to the God-Fearing, they would be) in a big drugged up orgy of billions, if not trillions, of other people in a warm cave. =]
