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FootloosePhoenix

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Ubisoft's press conference was okay. I liked the trailers we got, The Crew interested me even though I've never been one for driving games and Aisha Tyler was entertaining as usual, but there was only one new announcement with Rainbow Six. Er, unless Assassin's Creed Unity was technically a new announcement. I don't even know. It feels like that game was leaked months ago. Anyway, I found it fun to watch, but certainly not too exciting.

Sony kind of let me down this year. I always look forward to their conferences the most and especially after Ubisoft's just being okay, I was really hoping for an announcement or two that would fire me up. Not to mention last year was their best conference I'd ever seen; they had Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts III, a bunch of neat indie titles and generally lots of good news regarding the PS4 and such. I wasn't expecting it to be as impressive, but I did want something to grab onto. I will say No Man's Sky looks awesome and soon having the chance to play Grim Fandango is definitely good news.

Also what was with that announcement about a Ratchet and Clank remake? They really just slipped that in there. No trailer, no screenshot, no nothing. Not even its own logo. They just expected us to take it on Andrew House's word, I guess. Sorta makes me question whether it really happened or I just hallucinated the whole thing.
 

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I heard a dumb rumor that Valve was going to be at this E3, is that true? Haven't heard anyone talk about it so....

Obviously they would announce HL3, the cure for cancer, and the contents of Al Capone's wallet.
Don't hold your breath, I'm pretty sure Valve already up and said they weren't going this year, if HL3 is announced before the year's out, it'll be as part of another ARG thing like they did with Portal 2, that's just Valve's style.
 

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I honestly enjoyed the Ratchet and Clank trailer. Sony's downside was very small for me at least.
Same for me. Ever since the first trailer I was interested in seeing the Ratchet and Clank movie was going, so with this it seems interesting. The main villain is already confirmed to be Chairman Drek, but I'm interested into how Dr. Nefarious will be in it. For me I'm probably just fan-gasming is all because for a while Insomniac seemed a bit iffy with the series, but after playing Into the Nexus I don't think Insomniac has lost their edge yet.

Plus for me, when I think of my childhood and the games that stood out most honestly I remember Ratchet and Clank being one of the main series from there. :3
 

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I thought Sony had a good conference overall, nothing mind blowing, but good nonetheless. I can honestly say that No Man's Sky is the first indie game I've ever been interested in, and I am interested in Uncharted 4, and maybe the Order 1886.

Still, I feel a bit jaded by most of the announcements so far. I am the most interested in all the Nintendo stuff to come tomorrow, but I am usually still excited after the other conferences too. Maybe I am just tired of the "now you can play four player co-op, IN EVERYTHING!!!" Seriously, it that like the theme for E3 2013, and 2014?
 

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while I'm pretty eye roll-y about the E3 hype (especially given the whole watch dogs thing) I will say I DO like what I saw of the next tomb raider so far

I like the [i/]"jacket and hoodie of sadess"[/i] look on Lara

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Uncharted 4: Sully dies for real this time.
really? THATS AWSOME! next it might be Drake!

....don't look at me like that....
Dreadman75 said:
Batman Arkham Knight looks incredible (Like that's a shock.) But I do have to wonder how they'll keep people from going all GTA in the Batmobile. Batman doesn't kill after all...
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Driver:sanfransisco had a thing where you just can't hit people because they jump out the way
 

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Neronium said:
mysecondlife said:
I honestly enjoyed the Ratchet and Clank trailer. Sony's downside was very small for me at least.
Same for me. Ever since the first trailer I was interested in seeing the Ratchet and Clank movie was going, so with this it seems interesting. The main villain is already confirmed to be Chairman Drek, but I'm interested into how Dr. Nefarious will be in it. For me I'm probably just fan-gasming is all because for a while Insomniac seemed a bit iffy with the series, but after playing Into the Nexus I don't think Insomniac has lost their edge yet.

Plus for me, when I think of my childhood and the games that stood out most honestly I remember Ratchet and Clank being one of the main series from there. :3
Ratchet and Clank was not part of my childhood. Only RC experience I have is the first half of the first game. I just genuinely thought it might be a fun movie when it come out.
 

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Honestly, colour me rather underwhelmed by the whole experience.

Still seems like a next-gen console won't be worth owning until at least 2015.
 

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Arkham Knight looked impressive. Although the Batmobile seems like it'll be overpowered as all-get-go, or more likely severely restricted in use.
Far Cry 4 looked fun, if not anything mind-blowing (not that anyone expected it to be).
Littlebigplanet 3 having backwards compatibility was unexpected.
I'm skeptical that the amount of level design in the bit of Unity they played is consistent throughout the game.
The new UFC looks godawful, visually worse then the 2010 and 3 entries, and they're using stupid popup menu things for submissions, ugh.
No Mans Sky looks promising, but it also has terrible Molyneux/Spore vibes. Call me a cynic, but I'm guessing the limits of the procedural content will start showing up fast in actual gameplay, and the experience could wash out quick.
Order 1866 looks like bullshots, especially compared with earlier gameplay vids.
MK looked ... pretty? I guess. Fighters seem to be stuck in a rut, and its hard to justify shelling them out at AAA prices for minor graphical updates. DLC can update a roster, and patches can fix balancing, so its tough to justify a new version.
I've heard GTA:Online may have improved the filtering on annoying ****heads when you play, possibly making it playable. Maybe I'll look into the PS4 version, since I got the PS3 one for free anyways. I wonder if by "new activities", they actually added any crime potential into the SP sandbox, or more nature hike junk.
Sony's TV series might be ok, its free to PSPlus (which is a no-brainer to anyone with the cash handy) anyways. I"m not sure how much potential the PS:TV box thing has, beyond a nostalgia crowd (but also requiring that nostalgia crowd to not have the old consoles still).
Dragon Age just seems like a mess.
Bloodborne'll have to throw more out then bog-standard creepy gothic visuals and zombies (apparently) to win me over.
Dead Island 2's trailer was sort of funny, makes me wonder if Deep Silver pulled some of the Saints Row guys over for it. Dead Island's history as a game is very suspect however.
Meh on The Crew.
Can we just get some regular in-context gameplay of Destiny yet? I've seen 4 or 5 trailers on the thing and still don't know if its an MMO/Co-op/faction warfare thing/whatever Titanfall is. The story seems possibly interesting, but presented in horrible cliches.

Stop showing your alpha/concept art like its an actual thing. EA's was the worst for this, yeesh.
Sony clearly hasn't done their homework on people's reaction to free-to-play games to dedicate that much time to it.
 

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Went to bed before Sony's confernce (I'm English, it was at 2am) from people's reactions it seems they did shit this year
Also in the mind of sony execs, wow xbone really fucked up last year by not talking about games so lets dedicate this half this e3 to not talking about games.
Looking forward to the abridged versions, last year's ones were funny
 

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King Whurdler said:
Guys! Guys! Can we PLEASE just talk about Valiant Hearts for a second? Even this trailer is choking me up a bit! I have no idea how this game will play, but damn if I'm not interested in the sheer humanity of the project. It's a crying shame the news room didn't feel like covering it.
Just looks like another one of these "my feels!" games that are popular right now that you'll play once and then shelve it. Not really all that interesting. That said, that trailer shows sweet fuck all about any gameplay, so there's nothing worth discussing at the moment. Probably why it isn't being covered.
 

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King Whurdler said:
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Why is replayability such a big issue? I don't need to play Brothers more than once, but I can still say it's easily the best game of 2013. Like the saying goes, show what you know.

And remember, this is Ubisoft. 'Lack of actual gameplay' should be their mantra, so it hardly fits as a criticism in this case. Did you see that trailer for the new Rainbow Six? As far as I'm concerned, the only thing I can bet on happening in that game at this point, is guns being fired.
Well, I like to replay my games over the years. So replayability is a big deal for me (which is reinforced due to these "feels" games usually being pretty short). If I cannot extend my enjoyment of a game, then I probably won't bother with it. Unless it's ultra cheap or something.
 

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Only watched the Microsoft one, since it was the only one which was at a reasonable time.

Good things:
- topics different from: XBONE, tv, sports, television, tv, sports, sports, A DOG!

Bad things:
- Apart from a very few games, only the expected sequels
- Microsoft, you make this thing called 'windows'. Don't act like it fucking does not exist as a gaming platform, you assmonkeys.
- Too much BS about DLC

Specific thoughts on games:
- Scalebound: I wasn't a fan of Dante, and this guy looks like an even bigger douche.
- Sunset Overdrive: may be fun, but I'd currently describe it as Tony Hawk's Infamous Crackdown. Plus: they do have to tone it down a bit, I think. Slightly too overdone
- New Fable: it's going to be impossible to balance. Either the Bad Guy has too much resources, which makes it impossible for teh good guys to win unless the overlord holds back, or he has going to have too little and it'll be too easy. And the zone between those two is impossibly thin. Furthermore: I can see people getting sick of the 'funny' comments made by the other heroes 15 minutes into the game.
- Advanced Warfare: Call of Halo? Seriously. It had pretty pixels, but it still has the same boring gameplay, they actually seem to acknowledge this time that grey and brown makes it impossible to make out enemies, so they give you a gadget which lights them up like a christmas tree and putting a heroic death in a trailer DOES NOT WORK.
- AssCreed Unity: could be fun, could not be fun. I'm afraid they won't be able to top being a pirate.
- Tomb Raider: they now seem to be completely over the idea that Lara Croft is not an insame killer of men. Also: what kind of arrows does she use that she can penetrate a fucking skull without the arrow shattering?
- Halo Collection: would be fun it this came out on the PC, but still: don't know if it'll be worth the money. Also: those updated graphics on the levels they showed actually made the levels look worse, imho.
- Indie games: too much self-indulgent 'artsy' stuff for my taste.
- Crackdown. So the police now do stuff worse than 9/11 to kill a single criminal?
- Forza: yes, your cars look pretty. However, your environments still look really stilted when not seen racing past the window at 200 mph.
- Evolve: that was one of the most unappealing things I've seen in a long time. If it's good, the trailer sold it short. Looked like they were just bunnyhopping around a overgrown Imgarl Stealer while shooting it ineffectually. Monster's movement looked stilted and I saw nothing of the evolving the title promised.
- Dragon Age: I haven't play DA2, but I sort of liked the semi-tactical combat of DA:O. Was the move to generic action fighting with bullshitty high jumps already present in the second game, or is this new?
- Project Spark: I liked the look of this, however then I reminded myself this will be released on XBLive. Half of the levels will be full of penises and it will be impossible to create levels, since you have to do it with a fucking Xbox controller instead of a normal mouse/keyboard interface. And sure, it's slower, but doable when placing objects, but as soon as you have to get the subroutines for the different mobs to behave itself, they'll be either limited to a few archetypes or you'll have to do some coding sort of stuff using the controller.
- Halo 5: "a journey about his past and his future"? It's Master Chief, known even in the expanded universe for being a complete blank slate.
- Playdead: if you're making your game monochromatic, at least make it contrast rich.
- Witcher 3: Eh. Can't really complain here. On the other hand, they have shown virtually nothing. Hoping that this time, they will have some form of an actual fucking tutorial instead of saying: here's the game, there are some enemies, try not to die horribly a hundred times before figuring out the buttons.
- Phantom Dust: they announce it like it's a huge thing, but even I had to look it up. Apparently, it sold less than 10K copies.
- Contagion: I really love the idea of a tactical coop shooter, but please, can we finally move past the fucking cover based mechanics again?
 

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The problem which I had was that all of the Ubisoft games looked stunning, and I don't believe it one bit, especially after Watchdogs.

Other than that, I thought it was pretty decent. I am disappointed that very little was shown of Battlefront, but I am happy that EA showed a lot of alpha and work in progress games as opposed to just showing CG trailer or a vertical slice of gameplay that is entirely unrealistic.

The things that really amazed me were No Man's Sky and Rainbow Six: Siege, other than that, there were a lot of games that were either not overly special, or just not my thing. Good show overall.

YES:
No Man's Sky
Sunset Overdrive
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - I don't like Call of Duty, but it looked interesting enough to catch my attention. Well done.
Master Chief Collection - Horrible name, but im a sucker for Halo, okay? And 100 multiplayer maps is a good selling point.
Battlefront 3 - It's purdy
Rainbow Six: Siege - Very impressive, and I am glad the series is back

Meh:
Forza Horizon 2
Project Spark - It is entirely based on how much freedom it gives you.
Fable Legends
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Crackdown
Witcher 3
Mirror's Edge 2
Dragon Age: Inquisition - Would have liked some actual gameplay, aside from a very small, not even full battle with a dragon.
The Division - I don't trust it
Assassin's Creed 4 - I don't trust it
Far Cry 4 - The lack of green is disappointing
Dead Island 2
Batman: Arkham Knight
Destiny - I love Bungie, but it looks super bland.
Battlefield: Hardline - Looked okay. Played the beta. Disappointed.

Nope:
Sims 4
Scalebound
The constant fight for who can have more timed exclusives.
 

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Vault101 said:
Dreadman75 said:
Batman Arkham Knight looks incredible (Like that's a shock.) But I do have to wonder how they'll keep people from going all GTA in the Batmobile. Batman doesn't kill after all...
Driver:sanfransisco had a thing where you just can't hit people because they jump out the way
If you listen to the bit of gameplay, Oracle says the vehicles are unmanned so it's ok for Bats to blow every them up. My guess is that the game simply won't let you shoot an actual person. What's Batman's stance on rubber bullets?
 

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All those trailers with no gameplay. Terrible.

At least Far Cry 4 looked decent.

Dead Island 2's trailer is probably better than the finished game will be.
 

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LaoJim said:
If you listen to the bit of gameplay, Oracle says the vehicles are unmanned so it's ok for Bats to blow every them up. My guess is that the game simply won't let you shoot an actual person. What's Batman's stance on rubber bullets?
I reckon theres a good chance he'd be all for them

he doesn't kill people but I don't think he has anything against inconveniencing/hurting them
 

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My take on the conferences: (Sorry for the book) :)

MS: I felt MS played it very safe. They didn't do anything but games, I got the impression that they were avoiding saying anything that would make it seem that they were anything but a game machine. Two things stood out about this they never actually mentioned the Kinect by name and never once mentioned the "Cloud", instead calling it XBox Live. Their pacing was very good, it flowed nicely, unlike Sony's which ebbed and flowed. To me the games weren't all that spectacular. They really didn't show much of anything that if you weren't going to buy a One already, that would make you say I got to go and buy one, certainly not anytime soon. Sunset Overdrive looked interesting, although I am very surprised that no one seems to have mentioned it, but to me it screamed like a new generation, re-skinned version of Ratchet and Clank. Except for shooting from the rails and going back and forth, a lot of the mechanics seemed very similar. Not that it's a bad thing. I personally will be keeping an eye on Scalebound, but without knowing too much about it right now it's hard to get too excited. Overall I think their presentation was a solid one, but not an overly exciting one, unless you were specifically looking forward to the games mentioned and/or already an owner or planned to get a Xbox One in the near Future.

EA: EA tried to be different in that instead of just confirming that certain games exist they had developer diaries about said games. The problem is that the diaries while nice didn't give much information, if any at all. They would have been better served just by having the CEO or whomever confirm the list of games that were in production. It seems though that if they didn't do the diaries the presentation would have taken maybe 15-20 minutes and with most of their games being shown at MS or Sony's conferences there wouldn't have been much of a reason to have one. I will say that while we'll see how it truly turns out the new CEO seemed like he did want to make "better" games, but with EA being such a "company" we'll just have to see how it turns out for him. EA probably would have been better served just releasing trailers instead of having a full fledged conference.

Ubisoft: I didn't see their conference, so I can't give my thoughts.

Sony: Sony has never completely learned that the conference is more of a hype machine than an actual business presentation. So as I said before the pacing was very uneven and them including certain things (i.e. the Powers show) in the actual presentation seemed out of place. It would have been one thing if they had 5 or so shows or movies that will premiere on PSN, but it was only one, so it was very out of place. They could of easily held that out and issued a press release for it. I was also disappointed that the PS3 and especially the PSVita didn't really get any airtime on games. They could have at leazt made a sizzle reel with games that are coming out for the respective systems, especially since they did one for Free to Play games (with the hilarious caveat that some features might require a fee). I don't really know why they even mentioned Project Morpheus at this point, it isn't like it will be released anytime soon. From my perspective, when they were talking about the PS camera and how "successful" it was, I really thought they were going to announce that it would be included in the PS4 going forward, but they didn't. As for games, there were a couple of reveals, like LBP3, although I wouldn't think that nobody knew is wasn't coming eventually. Some might feel differently, but I liked that the demonstration fro LBP3 had mistakes and such. It made it feel very unscripted and you could tell that they were actually playing the game. Too many time to me, when they have gameplay demos I sometimes think that the people they have standing with the controller are just that, standing with the controller and we are all just watching a film of a runthrough, too many look too perfect, maybe that is just me. Gamewise nothing blew me away, No Man's Sky looks interesting, but I'll need to see if it is anything more than just flying around from place to place. Uncharted is, well, Uncharted, but the visuals... Overall, I think Sony had newer stuff to show, but the inclusion of some items and the general pacing of the show really dragged it down. As with MS, I don't think Sony really showed anything that would warrant people to say I need to go and buy a PS4, if you weren't already inclined to do so.

Conclusion: I think both MS and Sony's shows were about even this year, nobody "won" so to speak. However for different reasons. Most of what MS showed was either known or multi-platform, but they showed it in a coherent and more interesting manner. Whereas, Sony is pretty much the opposite, they seemed to have more pop as for what they were showing, but how and when, during the show, they showed these items left something be desired. Overall, it was a pretty unsurprising and, I guess, meh E3 so far.
 

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Time to see if Nintendo can reveal the massive game that nobody saw coming that's been lacking from the other conferences. Only fifty minutes to go guys, get hype.