Lich King Was Too Easy, Cataclysm Just Right, Says Blizzard

[firefly000]

Blizzard wanna make money. It's that simple. If people complain of course they are going to dumb it down.

 

[Lunar Shadow]

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4. You know, I wonder if there's ever going to come a time where people just...automatically move out of something swirly on the ground. The absolute rarity in wow, is a buff on the ground that dropps during a boss fight. Ugh, it's about as bad as people backing up and running away when they pull aggro...where the fuck are you going?!?!

I think keeping "unattainable" (difficult, long-term-achievable) content is very important.

Absolutely 100% agree.

the backing up thing is habit for most hunters as we are trying to get get to where we are shooting. I also Misdirect and Feign death if the tnak takes too long to regain aggro.

Edit: Though I swear if another tank/healer/both drop group halfway through a damn dungeon cause the gear/mount they wanted didn't drop I am going to kill somebody. Nothing like wating 30-40 minutes for a random then another cause a mount didn't drop and they don't have the courtesy to continue the damn run.

 

[matrix3509]

Some of the tanks are just atrocious too. Ran into a druid that could hold agro with me just using single target melee attacks while assisting him.

In all fairness druids have pretty much gotten the short end of the stick when it comes to tanking bear form with the current patch.

I'm a tank that has no trouble holding aggro. My only problems (and this happens with about 75% of every PUG I join) is that DPS are either stupid and think they can pull aggro, or they are impatient (and also stupid) and also try to pull aggro just because I might take and extra two or three seconds to get loot or wait for healer to regen mana or what have you. Seriously, not enough words exist that can properly describe my hatred of people who DPS right now.

 

[VanityGirl]

I'm bored with it, to be honest. I'm actually cancelling my subscription and going to DC Universe for a while.
Something about Cata just bored me. Once I hit 83 I just saw no point in continuing and instead played Fallout: New Vegas.

 

[RelexCryo]

Lich King Was Too Easy, Cataclysm Just Right, Says Blizzard

Lead systems designer Greg Street admitted it was a mistake for the dungeons of Wrath of the Lich King to be be so easy and that he is happy with the difficulty in Cataclysm.

World of Warcraft has always been an MMO that balanced providing solo content

Since when? When I left WoW there was pretty much only raiding content and team based PvP. It discouraged soloing heavily until around the time I left.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

"Too easy"?

Bullshit! Good lord! How far up their own asses can Blizzard be?!

 

[seditary]

I consider heroics easy since I've facerolled them for weeks now, so I would really like it if someone who is in the same position as me can tell me why they do not want them nerfed, if they are already geared up and have no need for them either. I'd hate to chalk it up (down?) to "you're just arrogant/elitist" like a lot of whiners do. So if you're well-geared by heroic standards (full 346), you've no use for the heroics except daily VP, and you do not want them nerfed, and it's not because you think it would spill over into raids, please share with me why.

Because I don't want to faceroll them with all my other toons.

 

[Charli]

Healers really are taking the worst of the abuse in these dungeons because we're not the godmoding do-it all mana pools anymore... And we're expected to be.

I don't pug heroics for any reason. I can't take that kind of mindless abuse and I'm cruising quite well through the raids personally, only for it to take one dumb-as-rocks tank or a few dps with a pipe lodged in their brain to break a group and turn on me like a violent yappy dog.

Gee guys, I just got finished wiping my boots of Cho'galls bloodied remains and wiping this 5man group is absolutely my fault for not healing enough...

Riight okay. Guildies to the rescue...

 

[ThaBenMan]

I've probably been spoiled - My sister and brother-in-law are my guild's leaders, so whenever I'm playing, they're usually right here in the same room. They're very skilled, experienced players, so they've been able to teach and help me a lot. There was a short period where Heroics were a tad too difficult for me, but I think that's due more to my noobishness than anything else (I only started playing a few months ago - power-leveled my shaman to 80 before Cata, then levelled him to 85 with my sister and her husband). Now I'm better geared and know the dungeons better, so I can handle them more easily. I think the difficulty level is pretty good where it is now - although I am DPS, which is probably the easiest out of the three roles.

 

[Furrama]

People are stupid, and this makes heroics hard. After that it's a gear check, and hopefully you aren't stupid enough to enter one with gear in your bags to boost your numbers.

And really, the dungeon finder is a whole lot more reliable for running instances than yelling in town. Do you really not recall the horrors of crap like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyQ-7o397Uk

40 min is alot better then maybe never... and then still getting fail group. You couldn't just re queue up again to replace a guy, someone had to go back out and ask for help. And the group probably fell apart anyway.

 

[Orekoya]

You can say the dearth of healers is exaggerated when ANY of the healers in my guild start playing their healing characters again. Seriously, resto druids and holy priests are on strike, and shammies don't cut it solo in heroics.

I'm sure it's different when your world is made up of people paid to play, but in the real world, or even just MY world, everyone currently needs healers to even start both heroics and rated BGs. Guess who's not available?

I can't blame them though, my main is moonkin/resto and pretty much have been vanilla wow, having to pay that 50g for a respec. Lately though I've started collecting gear to change to moonkin/feral tank though and I hate feral. That's how little I enjoy being resto now.

 

[Orekoya]

You can say the dearth of healers is exaggerated when ANY of the healers in my guild start playing their healing characters again. Seriously, resto druids and holy priests are on strike, and shammies don't cut it solo in heroics.

I'm sure it's different when your world is made up of people paid to play, but in the real world, or even just MY world, everyone currently needs healers to even start both heroics and rated BGs. Guess who's not available?

I can't blame them though, my main is moonkin/resto and pretty much have been vanilla wow, having to pay that 50g for a respec. Lately though I've started collecting gear to change to moonkin/feral tank though and I hate feral. That's how little I enjoy being resto now.

Healers need to understand they aren't the only ones who got hit with a serious nerf, as far as I'm concerned, I'm completely patient with healers because I know their mana pool is a fragile thing. Everyone needs to realize that all classes got it in some way or another (some classes harder than others). I really enjoyed having to stack 1700+ hit on my gear to be raid ready, after they nerfed Fel Armor's Spirit to Hit Buff. That was great!

Best advice anyone can take for Cata? Don't use the random dungeon finder. Get people on your server, get people on your guild, and get them on your vent server. Communication is key.

EDIT: FYI For Healers, a bit more bad news. Currently on the PTR, Warlock Fel Armor is being nerfed again, apparently they plan on removing the 2% max health regen/5sec buff, so Locks are going to need more attention =(.

Well now you're just listing off the reasons I haven't already bought the respec to feral. Although another reason is that the rest of my guild members has pretty much abandoned healing and I'm the last healer of our tiny guild left on board the USS Healsuck. *shakes fist* Our only priest is now specced shadow/shadow for pvp/pve.

Although when you say the "Healers need to understand" bit, I don't think that carries the full weight of the changes they've implemented. Heals are not only less effective and cost more mana, but mana regen has been flat out killed and the mana pool doesn't scale properly with the health pool or the inc damage, nor with the mana cost of the spells itself. And to top it off most forms of mana regen abilities such as Innervate were nerfed too. Every fundamental element of being a healer was nerfed. I'm sorry but the other two roles can't claim that, especially since simply relearning the classes itself show that the nerf wasn't nearly as severe as alot of people make it out to be (except ret paladins and they're getting fixed).

 

[Orekoya]

Although when you say the "Healers need to understand" bit, I don't think that carries the full weight of the changes they've implemented. Heals are not only less effective and cost more mana, but mana regen has been flat out killed and the mana pool doesn't scale properly with the health pool or the inc damage, nor with the mana cost of the spells itself. And to top it off most forms of mana regen abilities such as Innervate were nerfed too. Every fundamental element of being a healer was nerfed. I'm sorry but the other two roles can't claim that, especially since simply relearning the classes itself show that the nerf wasn't nearly as severe as alot of people make it out to be (except ret paladins and they're getting fixed).

Yeah, 12% reduction across the board in dmg, removal of over half your hit, soul shards no longer integral, tree decimated, no I'd have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry, but I'm a Warlock, the target of nearly every blizzard nerf since Vanilla, Healers do fine in heroics. They just need to suck it up and realize they may oom every once in awhile. It's not a bad thing, unless everyone dies, then...it's just a matter of fine tuning.

That would be my main as well, been a warlock since day 3 of vanilla release, before death coil was even conceived. I remember it all very well, and while warlocks has been abused like a red-headed step child, it's still better off now than where it was in tbc.

 

[Orekoya]

That would be my main as well, been a warlock since day 3 of vanilla release, before death coil was even conceived. I remember it all very well, and while warlocks has been abused like a red-headed step child, it's still better off now than where it was in tbc.

I was a terror in TBC, so not sure the probs you had. Was inside of Kara week 1 though so we were flying through content back then. Basically the problem as I see it now is the burden is shared by everyone. Healers go oom faster, yes...so it's dps' responsibility to pick up the dmg so that oom doesn't become an issue. Rather difficult when you're nerf'd over and over and over.

I'm an affliction lock if that sums it up for you.