List of Unfair and Game-Breaking FPS Tactics

[Trivun]

Camping is not noobish, or unfair in anyway, it is using a proper tactic of war and if you can't find a way to fight back against it then it's your own issue, everything else I agree with (depending on what you mean by noobish weapons)

By noobish halo weapons he is refering to the Sniper/Shotty combo.

But how the hell is that a 'noob' combo? It's a perfectly sensible combination that I've used plenty of times to great effect, in the Campaign mode and on multiplayer. And it's hardly foolproof, I've died plenty with it, but I've also had some great experiences using it to decent effect. A sniper IRL will usually work with a spotter anyway, so that spotter also helps defend the sniper if an enemy tries to sneak up on them, if I recall correctly. Since you don't tend to have players taking on that role in any FPS, surely it's not unreasonable to expect someone taking a sniper position to have a weapon to defend themselves with at close range if they're discovered?

 

[artanis_neravar]

Camping is not noobish, or unfair in anyway, it is using a proper tactic of war and if you can't find a way to fight back against it then it's your own issue, everything else I agree with (depending on what you mean by noobish weapons)

By noobish halo weapons he is refering to the Sniper/Shotty combo.

As long as he doesn't mean my pro pipe I'm fine with it

...Pro....pipe? May I ask what that is?

It's what I call the noob tube, partly because it actually requires skill to use efficiently, and it pisses people off

 

[LetalisK]

I facepalmed at 1. People who keep getting killed by campers tend to be people who deserve to keep getting killed by campers.

 

[artanis_neravar]

The only thing that really bothers me is that someone can be prone start firing and then get up to a crouch or stand while still scoped and firing exactly on the mark, it is completely unrealistic (In my opinion I fully understand that some people feel differently)

 

[SteewpidZombie]

I'd say 'Rushing' is a cheap noob tactic. I don't mean just sprinting at a enemy and shooting or sneaking around and flanking, but I mean when people use perks or hacks in games that allow for unlimited sprint or faster speed. It breaks the realism factor for some, and is just amazingly cheap when someone can run faster then you can turn, or they are sprinting around your spawn point and killing people as they spawn. (People can try and justify it all they want, but if Rushing isn't cheap then camping should be WAY MORE then Okay since it is a legit tactic used by real life snipers).

Though when I say 'Cheap noob tactic' I mean it in the way that it requires WAAAAAY less skill to crank your sensitivity on your controls and max out your speed then it does to actually aim and shoot or play strategically from cover to cover.

 

[A Shadows Age]

Maybe we can all just throw rocks instead... oh and sticks too, for variety.

 

[Cenequus]

If you play to win there is no such thing as unfair tactics. If you cock block yourself with stupid rules you'll never become better.

 

[zehydra]

Only 5 and 6 are worth complaining about. The rest don't break the game, you just can't figure out your way around them, so you complain.

There's always a way to defeat a camper, and in most cases, camping is (or ought to be, if people ever stopped to think in fps's) detrimental to the camper.

 

[II2]

1) Camping
2) Quickscoping/Noscoping

I dunno... Camping is legit and and tends to be thwarted with when more than one player notices them at a time, or after respawning, you sneak around and lob a grenade at or knife the bastard, all sneaky like. It only truly gets to sour the game if over 70% of one team are snipers and not pushing forward, losing as a team, but effectively making line of sight of their spawn area an instant kill zone or vice verse.

Even with the worst case scenario mentioned above, it's still not as infuriating as getting repeatedly quick scoped by overly competent "assault snipers" going Rambo with a fucking Light-Fifty, SVD or M40. (DMR style hybrid assault/sniper weapons exempt from this, mind)

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However, yes, worst of all is the straight up cheaters. Dealing with some prick using color-recognition AimBot twirling like a ballerina and dispensing inhumanly perfect synchronized head shots is one of the prices PC gamers pay for their dedicated servers and higher max capacity... and better graphics... and responsive controls... and SDKs and Mods... and - ok I'll stop being a tit.

 

[icyneesan]

I dont really agree with camping as in real life you dont run around the battlefield firing your weapon blindly, or knifing people in 1 hit and faster then the speed of sound

 

[McPulse]

4) "Noobish" Weapons

Using weapons that are unbalanced, overpowered or just plain unfair will help you get kills, but won't help you make friends. Examples include the "Noob Combo" from Halo.
NB: These are the sort of things that will generally get patched rather quickly, or fixed in sequels.

Now, as a n00b I am greatly insulted by being associated with this tactic. I can't even tell which way the beam sword should be facing before I turn it on, let alone how to break the game. Although, come to think of it, n00b could just be what people scream into the headset when they kill you with these combos...

 

[Keith Reedy]

True nuf' cheating ain't a tactic but it says a lot bout the sad little individuals that do it. Camping doesn't really bother me GRENADE B!@#%! Typically weapons aren't noobish even the newb tube serves a purpose, but weapons can be unbalanced like the models from mw2 cross map kills w a shot gun BullS@$t. Quick scoping varies by game in some it takes decent skill others were the aim assist basically puts it right were u want it, thats bad. dolphin diving when the hitbox issue occurs is really the same as clipping into a rock other wise its cool like in Blops were u actually do a cool dive.

 

[Ninjat_126]

I do realise it's possible to kill someone who's camping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05jtR9fZAnQ

Now if one guy had thrown a grenade or flashbang (Assuming the vid was based on CoD), Freddie would have died.

So yes, lots of people who get killed by campers deserve to get killed. But I just find it annoying sometimes, especially when it's your teammates getting raped by the guy with the M82.

A prime example from my experience would be COD:BO, on the map Villa. There's an upstairs window overlooking a courtyard and street area. There's almost always someone camping there and shooting up the other team.

Normally that's fine, they're crap. But sometimes you'll find one who's planned it out, or a pair with a good strategy, and they'll throw back your grenades and mow down your teammates and take a fair few people with them before they go down.

But hey, it's a legit strategy right? I've even done that a few times myself. But I've always made a point of jumping down and joining everyone else back on ground level after a minute or so, because I enjoy running around with my machine pistols more than camping.

 

[blankedboy]

What's the point of posting that on the Bethesda forums? They're pretty much one of the few companies that DON'T have an exploitable FPS with those problems listed.

Well it's probably the forum he frequents most. And just because you're a Bethesda fan doesn't mean you can't play FPSes sometimes. They even have one of their own >.>

 

[Keith Reedy]

I do realise it's possible to kill someone who's camping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05jtR9fZAnQ

Now if one guy had thrown a grenade or flashbang (Assuming the vid was based on CoD), Freddie would have died.

So yes, lots of people who get killed by campers deserve to get killed. But I just find it annoying sometimes, especially when it's your teammates getting raped by the guy with the M82.

A prime example from my experience would be COD:BO, on the map Villa. There's an upstairs window overlooking a courtyard and street area. There's almost always someone camping there and shooting up the other team.

Normally that's fine, they're crap. But sometimes you'll find one who's planned it out, or a pair with a good strategy, and they'll throw back your grenades and mow down your teammates and take a fair few people with them before they go down.

But hey, it's a legit strategy right? I've even done that a few times myself. But I've always made a point of jumping down and joining everyone else back on ground level after a minute or so, because I enjoy running around with my machine pistols more than camping.

I dolphin dived a rocket into that spot and got a multikill once, Almost crapped my pants cause to be honest that is total luck

 

[Ninjat_126]

Although, come to think of it, n00b could just be what people scream into the headset when they kill you with these combos...

Generally, yes. It's the term most commonly used. I subscribe to the theory that noobs are new players, but n00bs are players who refuse to play fairly and improve their skills.

What's the point of posting that on the Bethesda forums? They're pretty much one of the few companies that DON'T have an exploitable FPS with those problems listed.

Well it's probably the forum he frequents most. And just because you're a Bethesda fan doesn't mean you can't play FPSes sometimes. They even have one of their own >.>

It was part of a discussion on Brink.

 

[McPulse]

Ah, I see... I'm going to have to brush up on my terminology to stop being a noob(?)

 

[PlasmaFrog]

1) Camping
Sure, you might be having fun with your high powered sniper and your dark corner. But we're hating you right now.
NB: This mostly only applies in TDM and FFA game modes.

Utter bullcrap, but I'm not even sure on which direction they're attempting to take with this. Camping is an actual strategy that can be vitalized. Trying to hold a vital position to defend something? Then camp. If anyone else had a problem with this, then they're most likely a sore loser who wasn't careful enough to avoid you.

Camping is just procrastination for the inevitable reality, in which I mean that they're not as good as they might think they are.

2) Quickscoping/Noscoping

A quick/no-scoper can get off a single shot in the time it takes most SMG/AR users to fire a single shot. However, the no-scoper's single shot will kill you if it connects, unlike the other player's gun which takes multiple shots.
NB: This is technically a legitimate strategy and at least puts you on the battlefield with the rest of us mere mortals, unlike camping.

I can agree with this. Rifles are generally meant for the practicality of picking off targets from a fair distance. Running around and picking off players from shotgun distance can prove to be extremely frustrating and unfair in a sense, but it isn't justified due to the fact that it is avoidable if you take the proper precautions.

Seems plausible, but not justified.

3) Dolphin-Diving/Drop-Shotting

If your hitbox drops to a crouch/prone before your character model does, you'll have to be really unlucky to find someone who can hit you. Fairly common in the Battlefield games.
NB: Not all games have this hitbox problem and the hitbox is actually in sync with the player model. In which case, this is just another bullet avoidance technique.

It's a strategy, it even discredits itself by referring to it as a technique.

4) "Noobish" Weapons

Using weapons that are unbalanced, overpowered or just plain unfair will help you get kills, but won't help you make friends. Examples include the "Noob Combo" from Halo.
NB: These are the sort of things that will generally get patched rather quickly, or fixed in sequels.

Opinionated.

5) Glitch Exploiting

Glitch abuse includes noclipping into rocks, climbing the skybox and basically exploiting any loophole they can.
NB: These aren't meant to be in the game. If you find a way to hide inside the rock, don't.

Of course.

6) Hacking

The Holy Grail of players being complete assholes. Granting you unlimited ammo, homing bullets, indestructible skin and the like, as well as cheating everyone else out of a fair game.
NB: Players caught doing this will usually be banned or have their accounts deleted.

No shit Sherlock!

It only seems as if someone created this as a rant to vent off some steam.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Generally, yes. It's the term most commonly used. I subscribe to the theory that noobs are new players, but n00bs are players who refuse to play fairly and improve their skills.

Newb is someone who is new (as in newbie) noob or n00b are both the same thing